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What would it take to move your needle on Wojo this year?

A NCAA win
63 (33.2%)
Deep NCAA success (S16 or better)
52 (27.4%)
A conference title
14 (7.4%)
A sub .500 conference finish
14 (7.4%)
A bottom 3 conference finish
19 (10%)
Dead last in conference
1 (0.5%)
Another late season collapse (self-define)
4 (2.1%)
There is nothing short of a national title that Wojo can do this season that will redeem him
8 (4.2%)
There is nothing short of cocaine and strippers for the players that Wojo can do this season that will diminish my opinion of him
7 (3.7%)
Other (add in comments)
8 (4.2%)

Total Members Voted: 190

Billy Hoyle

Come on everyone, you're missing the most obvious candidate: Gregggggggg Marshall. Proven winner, desperate for work, psycho wife.

Of course, the chances of Marshall being hired at MU are exactly the same as Wojo being fired after this season.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 10, 2021, 06:06:49 PM
Come on everyone, you're missing the most obvious candidate: Gregggggggg Marshall. Proven winner, desperate for work, psycho wife.

Of course, the chances of Marshall being hired at MU are exactly the same as Wojo being fired after this season.
You really think there's a possibility we hire Marshall?

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First rule of College Presidents is no scandals.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 10, 2021, 06:30:22 PM
You really think there's a possibility we hire Marshall?

Wojo could lose every game and nor be fired. COVID sucks
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Billy Hoyle

#155
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 10, 2021, 06:30:22 PM
You really think there's a possibility we hire Marshall?

That's why I said the chance of Greggggg is the same as Wojo being fired is equal.

Unless Wojo drags the national title trophy behind his car around campus wearing a Bucky Badger costume, with kidnapped naked cheerleaders with him, he isn't getting fired this year. And I'm more likely dunk on Giannis than that ever happening this season. Follow the (lack of) money.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

4everwarriors

Just da female cheerleaders or male too, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

willie warrior

The wojo slurp support just keeps rising to the defense of Capt. Mediocrity. With support like this it appears that he has a lifetime contract. So we can all deal with it as MU continues to slide into lower depths of college bb.
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Eldon


The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Eldon on January 10, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
Becky Hammon

Stan Johnson

Hammon's not coming to MU.

And Stan?  We will see how he pans out as a head coach first.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: willie warrior on January 10, 2021, 07:36:26 PM
The wojo slurp support just keeps rising to the defense of Capt. Mediocrity. With support like this it appears that he has a lifetime contract. So we can all deal with it as MU continues to slide into lower depths of college bb.

What part of "COVID is going to keep the university from firing Wojo" translates to "slurp support"?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


brewcity77

Quote from: Eldon on January 10, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
Becky Hammon

Stan Johnson

Hammon will likely be a NBA coach soon, no reason to take on the additional headaches of the college game.

That said, she's a lot closer to my top two choices than anyone else mentioned in this thread.
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Silent Verbal

Hammon wants to, and will, be a head coach in the NBA within the next few years.  Plus, she likely doesn't have the recruiting network and experience that a veteran head or assistant coach at the college level has.  This would also be why I'm against hiring Doc Rivers; no way he'd want to go into a teenager's home and kiss butt to the kid's parents.  And that's half the job of a college coach.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 10, 2021, 07:25:03 PM
That's why I said the chance of Greggggg is the same as Wojo being fired is equal.

Unless Wojo drags the national title trophy behind his car around campus wearing a Bucky Badger costume, with kidnapped naked cheerleaders with him, he isn't getting fired this year. And I'm more likely dunk on Giannis than that ever happening this season. Follow the (lack of) money.
It was a joke; I knew what you were getting at and tend to agree with you. Should have used teal. 

I don't see a change happening nor do I see MU extending Wojo either.

shoothoops

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2021, 09:58:05 AM
Is Otz still considered successful after a 1-7 start in a year he was supposed to be a top 4 team in the MWC? I say that as someone who was intrigued by TJO as a potential candidate last season.

The names that excite me most on that list are Wardle,  Michaelson, and Medved... which isn't very exciting. That being said,  no one was excited about Buzz when he got the nod and he turned out great on the court.

But it doesn't matter. Barring an alum offering to pay the buyout or Wojo leaving on his own accord,  he will be our coach next season. Best case scenario for Marquette is for the team to pull it together and start winning some games.

Is Wardle still considered successful after losing to 2-7 N. Iowa today?  Bradley is now 6-4. Is this going to be the 2nd time in six seasons Wardle has a winning league record at Bradley?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 10, 2021, 09:21:25 PM
I don't see a change happening nor do I see MU extending Wojo either.

I think an extension is inevitable. But if it happens, it will come with a renegotiated buyout.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2021, 09:36:50 PM
I think an extension is inevitable. But if it happens, it will come with a renegotiated buyout.

How will we know if it does?
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JTJ3

darian devries needs to be high up on the list.  what he has done at drake is incredible and he has plenty of midwest and big east ties.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on January 10, 2021, 11:04:21 PM
How will we know if it does?

Occam's razor again. If Wojo gets extended after a blah season it either means a): Scholl is at least somewhat competent at his job and is giving Wojo the tools to succeed (an extension to help recruiting) and an incentive to win now or be fired (lowered buyout) or b) Scholl is incompetent and doesn't know how to handle an underperforming coach. I think a) is more likely.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MUBurrow

Quote from: JTJ3 on January 10, 2021, 11:08:20 PM
darian devries needs to be high up on the list.  what he has done at drake is incredible and he has plenty of midwest and big east ties.

Darian, is that you?

JTJ3

Quote from: MUBurrow on January 10, 2021, 11:54:52 PM
Darian, is that you?
nope lol.  i also really like nate oats and otz as potential candidates.  both would do very well back home in milwaukee.  wardle would be kinda meh to me, but i understand the mu ties, and he does seem to be a better in game coach than wojo.  just has never recruited at the high major level as even an assistant coach.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JTJ3 on January 10, 2021, 11:08:20 PM
darian devries needs to be high up on the list.  what he has done at drake is incredible and he has plenty of midwest and big east ties.

Well, DeVries' AD is Scholl's protege.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

1SE

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 10, 2021, 05:02:25 PM
Years? There's been one offseason since Wojo was extended and he was a lock for the NCAAT before it was canceled (meaning he wasn't going to be fired) and the pandemic had already started. There literally hasn't been a non pandemic year since Wojo was extended.

Sorry, I meant had there been no pandemic - it seems that even in the absence of the pandemic Wojo's buyout has appeared too high (according the the rumors on this site). If it really is, who knows.

But the basic point is the buck stops with the guy in charge. MUBB doesn't win, that's on Wojo. MU keeps around a coach that doesn't win, that's on Scholl.

And let's not kid ourselves, Marquette is a fine school but, overall, there is nothing from an academic standpoint that sets it aside from dozens of other private, non-selective, universities across the country. The thing that brings MU national attention (and thus interest from students, more donor money, etc.) is its basketball program.
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: 1SE on January 11, 2021, 04:46:03 AM
Sorry, I meant had there been no pandemic - it seems that even in the absence of the pandemic Wojo's buyout has appeared too high (according the the rumors on this site). If it really is, who knows.

But the basic point is the buck stops with the guy in charge. MUBB doesn't win, that's on Wojo. MU keeps around a coach that doesn't win, that's on Scholl.

And let's not kid ourselves, Marquette is a fine school but, overall, there is nothing from an academic standpoint that sets it aside from dozens of other private, non-selective, universities across the country. The thing that brings MU national attention (and thus interest from students, more donor money, etc.) is its basketball program.


OK but cmon...

When did you think he should have been fired.  In 2019 because they failed down the stretch?  In 2020 when Covid didn't even let them play in the tournament?

Look, I am not a fan of the guy and think its best to move on.  But realistically I know that there was no way they were going to fire the guy after the last two seasons.  Unless this season becomes an absolute dumpster fire, I don't see it after this year either.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: 1SE on January 11, 2021, 04:46:03 AM
Sorry, I meant had there been no pandemic - it seems that even in the absence of the pandemic Wojo's buyout has appeared too high (according the the rumors on this site). If it really is, who knows.

But the basic point is the buck stops with the guy in charge. MUBB doesn't win, that's on Wojo. MU keeps around a coach that doesn't win, that's on Scholl.

And let's not kid ourselves, Marquette is a fine school but, overall, there is nothing from an academic standpoint that sets it aside from dozens of other private, non-selective, universities across the country. The thing that brings MU national attention (and thus interest from students, more donor money, etc.) is its basketball program.

Isn't out physical therapy program like no3 in the country? I mean I feel like that sets it apart if you're after that program.
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