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England Strain

Started by Hards Alumni, December 22, 2020, 07:12:53 AM

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tower912

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 10, 2021, 04:09:06 PM
I though naming viruses feom the origin point was racist?

It certainly is when you have racist intent.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 10, 2021, 04:09:06 PM
I though naming viruses feom the origin point was racist?

These aren't different virus', they're different strains.  The initial strain of sars-cov-2 / covid-19 was from Wuhan/China. So the virus is sars-cov-2 / covid-19 , and the first strain we knew of was the Wuhan strain.  But the virus is still covid-19.

But you know all that, you're just trying to defend the indefensible.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Passive aggressive trolling aside, the country naming of mutations is not very accurate since all countries are not doing surveillance.  They could come from anywhere. I understand why early on people identify it with a place (as also we did with China until the virus was named).

No one is using the term to say it's the UKs fault and more and more the common convention when referenced is the letter and number of the mutation (as it should be). 

wadesworld

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 10, 2021, 05:17:44 PM
Passive aggressive trolling aside, the country naming of mutations is not very accurate since all countries are not doing surveillance.  They could come from anywhere. I understand why early on people identify it with a place (as also we did with China until the virus was named).

No one is using the term to say it's the UKs fault and more and more the common convention when referenced is the letter and number of the mutation (as it should be).

Right. Unlike when Trump was using "China virus" after it already had its name to try to blame his failure to lead us through the pandemic on China (also after thanking President Xi, on behalf of the American people, for their great job in handling the virus), nobody using "British strain" is blaming Brittin for letting it spread throughout the USA. Nobody is filling Yelp reviews of British restaurants throughout the USA with racist epithets. Nobody is threatening British people because they brought the virus over.

But like always, Ziggy thinks the things are the same. Or his faux outrage will lead the meat eaters to join in on the faux outrage somewhere down the line.

Warriors4ever

I made my post  because  it was referred to as a Japanese strain when it came from Brazil.  I suppose if there are serious variants, they have to be described in a shorthand way somehow.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 10, 2021, 06:23:21 PM
I made my post  because  it was referred to as a Japanese strain when it came from Brazil.  I suppose if there are serious variants, they have to be described in a shorthand way somehow.

The UK strain is likely not from the UK, they just have good testing and detected it there so it's the UK strain. Badge of honor, honestly.

The US isn't catching any new strains/mutations because our testing sucks donkey butt - https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/us-can-miss-covid-strain-because-the-holes-in-our-net-are-too-wide.html

ZiggysFryBoy

JFC, lighten up.  It was a joke.

wadesworld


Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 10, 2021, 08:45:49 PM
JFC, lighten up.  It was a joke.

Jokes usually require humor.  8-)

Frenns Liquor Depot

#59
I have to say that this chart makes the new mutation look pretty frightening.

https://twitter.com/drtomfrieden/status/1348761507480416257?s=21

However WHO leader thinks it's more behavioral (he's from Ireland)

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-surge-due-to-increased-social-mixing-says-who-s-mike-ryan-1.4455748

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 11, 2021, 05:17:32 PM
I have to say that this chart makes the new mutation look pretty frightening.

https://twitter.com/drtomfrieden/status/1348761507480416257?s=21

However WHO leader thinks it's more behavioral (he's from Ireland)

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-surge-due-to-increased-social-mixing-says-who-s-mike-ryan-1.4455748


I would love to think he's right about the behavioral explanation, but the dramatic spike occurred not terribly long after the new strain was discovered. And more sociable behavior in the UK also wouldn't explain why the numbers were flat there for so long.

Now that the strain has been detected in a number of states, it will be interesting to see what happens over the next several weeks.