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vogue65

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 25, 2020, 08:29:19 PM
MU>UW
UW>MSU
Joey to MSU=bad decision.
Only explanation.

One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: vogue65 on December 28, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.

How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.
Maigh Eo for Sam

vogue65

Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 28, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
How's UW and MSU lose? They got two solid players in a year where if Sam doesn't like what he's hearing from NBA boards he can come back and have a legit shot at a championship.

You have a point.
However, the jury is still out on locker room solidarity and the influence on the coach and their program.
I'm very naive, I believe in the common good.

dgies9156

Quote from: vogue65 on December 28, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.

Nobody ever is going to tell the true story on this one.

There are too many axes to grind and too many people hanging on in the background with their own self-interests.

The only truth I could see is the two young men didn't find what they wanted in Wisconsin, so they went elsewhere.

We R Final Four

Quote from: vogue65 on December 28, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
One explanation, I'm sure there is more to the story.
Are there any invesgative journalists left in Wisconsin?
I see it as a tragic story all around.
Everyone lost, the kids, WOJO, Marquette, the family, MSU, Virginia, UW, and the program.
Lots of moving parts to contemplate.
Imagine if MSU (played and) beat UVA.
Holy cow. Oh my gosh.
MU>UW>MSU>UVA.
Shut. It. Down.

withoutbias

Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey's 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he's standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.

shoothoops

Minnesota exploiting Michigan St. at the 1 and the 5 in a big way tonight. No answer for Carr and Robbins.

tower912

Quote from: WithoutBias on December 28, 2020, 08:11:46 PM
Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey's 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he's standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.
Wojo's fault.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: WithoutBias on December 28, 2020, 08:11:46 PM
Just turned on the Minnesota-MSU game to see them talk about Joey's 1-6 shooting so far. Then on the defensive end he's standing under the basket as his man is behind the 3 point line in the corner, and he still is late to rotate on a backdoor cut and gives up a soft 3rd foul for the and 1. Minnesota up 25.


They probably coulda used Markus, 'cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....

Not A Serious Person

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Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 28, 2020, 11:06:35 PM

They probably coulda used Markus, 'cept Joey woulda written Izzo a letter....

I thought the same thing ...

MSU is 0-3 in the B1G and was just blown out by Minnesota, after getting blown out by Northwestern last week!  They are probably out of the top 25 now.

Joey is crafting a letter to Izzo as we speak.
Western Progressives have one worldview, the correct one.

tower912

It has been a long time since I have seen a Spartan team so lacking in leadership or identity.   Izzo being Izzo, both will probably emerge in the next few weeks.   Langford, Watts or Henry.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane


JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 30, 2020, 06:58:38 PM
13, 10, and 4 for Sam tonight against ND

Sam fits the offense well. But I can't for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn't under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING

The Big East

Joey just another guy against Nebraska  The Spartans won though ,as Aaron Henry showed his potential.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on December 30, 2020, 08:19:37 PM
Sam fits the offense well. But I can't for the life of me figure out how they ever recruit athletic guys like Hunter or Brogdon or even Clark. I watched a good chunk of the second half, and the number of times they turn down open driving lanes or open jumpers to kill more clock if the shot clock isn't under 10 or 15 is EXCRUCIATING


The whole point of running an offense is to get good shots. I've never understood why some coaches think a contested shot with 3 seconds on the shot clock is better than an open shot with 25 seconds on the clock.

The Big East

Joey got back on track yesterday in MSU's much needed win over Rutgers. 9 points 14 Boards and 2 assists. Aaron Henry stepping into the role as the Man at MSU and Joey better off in supporting role.

The Big East

Spartans lose at the end. Not sure if it was Joeys man who broke free to get open to make the last shot. Joey was running toward Trevion Williams as he took the Final shot.

Joey with a modest game. Izzo has Joey on a tight leash .

The Big East

Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.

The Big East

Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line

Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams

tower912

Joey got abused defensively down the stretch against Purdue.  Izzo left him in, though.   Maybe he didn't like his other options.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Trump Loves The Big East on January 10, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
Stats season to date
Joey
11.8 points 8.1 rebounds 1.9 assists shooting .367 from 3 And .767 from line
Sam
13.8 points 7.3 rebounds 2.0 assist shooting .34 from 3 And .75 from line

Interesting that both brothers shooting is off . May be a function of different roles they play and not having Markus to attract double teams

They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.

wadesworld

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on January 10, 2021, 06:05:03 PM
They're both getting roughly the same numbers (Joey doing better on the glass) as at MU but less efficient shooters so it seems like they've carried the results of their last few weeks in Milwaukee in to their new homes.

They wanted to be the best players on their own team. No Herro. No Markus. Heck, not even playing together.

Turns out they're probably best as Robin. Very good players. But not great players.

tower912

A lot more room to shoot when the entire defense is trying to stop a first team all American.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Trump Loves The Big East on January 09, 2021, 03:30:15 PM
Sam with 17 10 and 1 in the Cavs 12 point win over BC. Getting back to form after a few weak games.
I watched this game.  Sam is such a smart/winning player.  Joey less so as far as a I can tell.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

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