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Masks

Started by Keithtisbarf, July 02, 2020, 11:02:31 PM

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Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 11, 2020, 09:48:48 PM
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1282068536731611142?s=21

Is this a game changer or not?

No.

He has ignored the virus - and more often lied about it, so wearing a mask one time means he is doing something right?

Still the worst leader in U.S. history. His actions have led to the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

tower912

#76
Quote from: Jockey on July 11, 2020, 06:31:04 PM

We have yet to find a cure for stupid.

Theoretically, education.    But tribalism trumps even that, sometimes.

Hopefully, he continues to wear one.   Hopefully, his continued wearing of a mask convinces more of the mask-averse to wear one, too.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

shoothoops

#77
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 11, 2020, 09:48:48 PM
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1282068536731611142?s=21

Is this a game changer or not?

He literally said in an interview that there is a time and place for masks, implying that some of the time, perhaps much of the time wearing one isn't it.

He hasn't wore a mask for two reasons in my opinion:

1) Straight up Vanity.
2) He sees mask wearing for himself as a sign of weakness, a sign of failure, a sign of losing. He doesn't want to wear that reminder daily. A more secure person would have been wearing a mask for months.

This was Walter Reed, high risk category people in the military. Do you really believe he'll go from not wearing one at all, to every day with great frequency? I don't. If he does, good, better late than never. But as we have seen his unwillingness to wear a mask and unwillingness to encourage his tribe to wear a mask has had deadly consequences for some. That can never be erased.

https://twitter.com/Marmel/status/1282152323104468992?s=19


rocky_warrior

Ha, I'm highly amused (and very concerned) when  see folks pulling the mask under their nose.

Sure, it makes breathing easier, doesn't fog up glasses.

But it's about as useful as putting a band-aid below a cut to catch the blood coming out.  :o

shoothoops

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 12, 2020, 11:11:03 AM
Ha, I'm highly amused (and very concerned) when  see folks pulling the mask under their nose.

Sure, it makes breathing easier, doesn't fog up glasses.

But it's about as useful as putting a band-aid below a cut to catch the blood coming out.  :o

Some people know masks are required certain places. So they wear them to those places but they have the masks pulled down often knowing there will be little to no enforcement, and/or they could always wear it properly when need be. This is a category of people.

This unfortunately puts more unnecessary pressure on some workers and people out there just trying to do their jobs, save lives, and get through the day.

shoothoops

Cleveland Tennessee Pastor has "Given Up Counting" COVID-19 cases in his congregation. Says they should have worn masks and social distanced.

"It slipped in on us...It's nobody's fault."

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2020/jul/12/pastor-says-he-got-covid-19-gave-counting-chu/527332/#/questions/

Jockey

Quote from: shoothoops on July 13, 2020, 08:24:57 AM
Cleveland Tennessee Pastor has "Given Up Counting" COVID-19 cases in his congregation. Says they should have worn masks and social distanced.

"It slipped in on us...It's nobody's fault."

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2020/jul/12/pastor-says-he-got-covid-19-gave-counting-chu/527332/#/questions/

Typical lying religious creep. Trying to lie his way out of taking responsibility.

He is wrong that "It's nobody's fault". It is all on him. He made his congregation sick.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

shoothoops


Texas Senator Ted Cruz refuses to wear a mask both while waiting for his commercial American Airlines flight and on the flight itself:

https://twitter.com/hossehenad/status/1282498098858786818?s=19


shoothoops

Missouri Governor Mike Parson not wearing a mask at a Missouri Cattle Association event, just after he tweeted for others to wear a mask and socially distance.

https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1282137611805523969?s=19

https://twitter.com/GovParsonMO/status/1281713307498340352?s=19

jficke13

Quote from: pbiflyer on July 12, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
This? No

Just another day in the life of a normal person who has fully mastered the art of standing upright.

Warriors4ever

https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/documents/1594659922_43254.pdf

Key West is requiring masks whenever you leave your home ( except when eating, drinking, or in your own vehicle, basically)
inside or outside, whether Social distance can be maintained or not.
In plain language, you must wear a mask even if just walking down the street. Ability to social distance does not matter.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Warriors4ever on July 14, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/documents/1594659922_43254.pdf

Key West is requiring masks whenever you leave your home ( except when eating, drinking, or in your own vehicle, basically)
inside or outside, whether Social distance can be maintained or not.
In plain language, you must wear a mask even if just walking down the street. Ability to social distance does not matter.


Makes sense, if they're working towards enforcement that is way easier to enforce.

Warriors4ever


Hards Alumni

Quote from: Warriors4ever on July 14, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/documents/1594659922_43254.pdf

Key West is requiring masks whenever you leave your home ( except when eating, drinking, or in your own vehicle, basically)
inside or outside, whether Social distance can be maintained or not.
In plain language, you must wear a mask even if just walking down the street. Ability to social distance does not matter.

How to do they determine if some people can't wear them due to medical condition.

jficke13

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 14, 2020, 02:57:47 PM
How to do they determine if some people can't wear them due to medical condition.

Because those medical conditions don't exist?

Or because if they do exist, and the person in question has that medical condition, they maybe shouldn't be wandering around Key West?

withoutbias

Quote from: pbiflyer on July 12, 2020, 10:57:58 AM
This? No

Well, he is a mouth breather, so this probably is actually quite effective.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: jficke13 on July 14, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
Because those medical conditions don't exist?

Or because if they do exist, and the person in question has that medical condition, they maybe shouldn't be wandering around Key West?


Yep. If they are wearing a mask so tightly that it really limits their air supply, they need to reevaluate how they are wearing it. And if they are so anxious that wearing a mask might trigger a panic attack, it probably isn't a good idea to be wandering around during a global pandemic.

And before someone criticizes me for being insensitive of those with anxiety issues - I have had many panic attacks. Like full-scale 'take me to the ER, I'm having a heart attack' panic attacks, so I know how debilitating they can be. I also know that you can manage them with practice, and learn to live with them when they happen (sit down, close your eyes, breathe deeply, etc).

I applaud Key West's action.

warriorchick



I am sure that the same doctors that work in medical marijuana "clinics" and prescribe for anyone who tell them they have anxiety will gladly write a note for anyone who wants one exempting them from masks.  It's easy money.
Have some patience, FFS.

Mutaman

Quote from: Warriors4ever on July 14, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/documents/1594659922_43254.pdf

Key West is requiring masks whenever you leave your home ( except when eating, drinking, or in your own vehicle, basically)
inside or outside, whether Social distance can be maintained or not.
In plain language, you must wear a mask even if just walking down the street. Ability to social distance does not matter.

Watching the Duval Street web cam I'd say about 99% of the people were not wearing masks. On the UWS of NYC I'd say about 90 % wear them and you can't get into a store without one.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jficke13 on July 14, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
Because those medical conditions don't exist?

Or because if they do exist, and the person in question has that medical condition, they maybe shouldn't be wandering around Key West?

They actually do exist, so don't be so dismissive.  I work with plenty of at risk individuals who cannot wear a mask.

shoothoops

Walmart will require masks at all of their stores beginning Monday. (This was already in place a while, even months in some geographies in various cities and states with mask mandates.)  Enforcement has been so so. And of course there have been some who wear a mask only to have it pulled down the entire time they are in the store.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/15/business/walmart-masks/index.html?__twitter_impression=true




Galway Eagle

Anybody see the study about mask effectiveness? Since the numbers went down I've been using a bandana. Didn't know it was essentially useless.
Maigh Eo for Sam

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 15, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
Anybody see the study about mask effectiveness? Since the numbers went down I've been using a bandana. Didn't know it was essentially useless.

You'll notice more and more people call them face coverings