Covid Deaths, Hospital Payments, etc

[GooooMarquette]

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html

There is evidence, in New York and other places, that the official coronavirus counts are probably too low. Tests for the illness can be hard to get, and not all who die now are being tested, particularly if they die outside a hospital. New York City recently revised its own statistics for the number of coronavirus-related fatalities, saying thousands of additional deaths were probably because of Covid-19, even though no tests had been conducted.

There is also increasing evidence that stresses on the health care system and fears about catching the disease have caused some Americans to die from ailments that are typically treatable. A recent draft paper found that hospital admissions for a major type of heart attack fell by 38 percent in nine major U.S. hospitals in March. In a normal year, cardiovascular disease is the country's leading cause of death.

Yep.

I don't doubt that there are a few 'false positive' COVID deaths here and there, but CDC's own numbers suggest that there are far more 'false negatives' that were erroneously given other causes because we didn't have enough tests or understanding of the illness to properly diagnose people early on.

[Hards Alumni]

Warriordad posting frequency is outrageous these last couple months

Not to mention its suspiciously late at night, and late in the morning...

You know, as if he didn't actually live in IL! 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Deaths are being undercounted

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/coronavirus-us-deaths.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[GooooMarquette]

Deaths are being undercounted

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/coronavirus-us-deaths.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Eh, the numbers were crunched by a Harvard statistician who also is Chair of the Department of Data Science at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. What can he possibly know?

[tower912]

My gut says the Harvard guy is wrong and there actually haven't been any deaths.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

500 guts...

As long as one says something different, then all points of view are equal to some fancy educated guy from Harvard.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Well my well placed source says he is wrong.  Beat that!