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Truth about Flattening the Curve

Started by Jay Bee, March 25, 2020, 08:27:38 PM

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TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: muguru on March 26, 2020, 07:14:17 AM
It's sh*t like this that pisses me off about society...they hear something on CNN or MSNBC and consider it factual, it becomes a firestorm and then everyone(well everyone who just believes everything they hear) runs with it. NO one checks facts anymore..the American public is so sadly jaded by the media(particularly from a certain side). That's the biggest problem we face with this thing..the media. No one cares about facts anymore..agendas..that's what they care about.
So you *don't* think that "the country was told the whole thing was a hoax, fake news, and that the virus would disappear in a matter of days", and that is just a concoction of the left-wing media?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 26, 2020, 09:56:55 AM
So you *don't* think that "the country was told the whole thing was a hoax, fake news, and that the virus would disappear in a matter of days", and that is just a concoction of the left-wing media?

He does his fact checking of Fox & Breitbart by going onto OAN and Infowars to confirm.
Maigh Eo for Sam

jesmu84

Quote from: muguru on March 26, 2020, 07:14:17 AM
It's sh*t like this that pisses me off about society...they hear something on CNN or MSNBC and consider it factual, it becomes a firestorm and then everyone(well everyone who just believes everything they hear) runs with it. NO one checks facts anymore..the American public is so sadly jaded by the media(particularly from a certain side). That's the biggest problem we face with this thing..the media. No one cares about facts anymore..agendas..that's what they care about.

Trump literally said those things. Would you like me to post the video?

MU Fan in Connecticut


HansMoleman

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 26, 2020, 09:56:55 AM
So you *don't* think that "the country was told the whole thing was a hoax, fake news, and that the virus would disappear in a matter of days", and that is just a concoction of the left-wing media?

The president certainly downplayed the seriousness of the virus at the outset, but he didn't call it a hoax.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/


rocky_warrior

Hey folks - I appreciate that everyone wants to educate the others, but lets move on...

Johnny B

Move on to what theres like literally nothing else to talk about

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Johnny B on March 26, 2020, 11:34:01 AM
Move on to what theres like literally nothing else to talk about

Sorry should have been clear.  Move on from the debate about what the prez said.  Talk about flattening the curve all you like.

jesmu84

Jay bee - I still don't understand your perspective. You think the government wanted deaths, and wants more deaths, from this?

Jay Bee

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 26, 2020, 12:41:53 PM
Jay bee - I still don't understand your perspective. You think the government wanted deaths, and wants more deaths, from this?

I believe MN's gov was OK with waiting to issue an exec order to stay home even though it would and did cause more illness here than we'd otherwise be experiencing, in part because it's more about flattening the curve vs. stopping the virus.
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

jesmu84

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 26, 2020, 02:05:42 PM
I believe MN's gov was OK with waiting to issue an exec order to stay home even though it would and did cause more illness here than we'd otherwise be experiencing, in part because it's more about flattening the curve vs. stopping the virus.

So you believe the government did not, at any point, want to stop the virus? You truly believe the government wanted the virus to spread?

🏀

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 26, 2020, 11:30:24 AM
Hey folks - I appreciate that everyone wants to educate the others, but lets move on...

Thanks for the resize.

Its DJOver

IMO, there's more at play other than just "earlier mandatory quarantine equals less deaths".  As much as this will hurt economically, increasing the time isolated would also increase the net economic loss.  It then becomes a question of "how much are you willing to lose financially to have an increase in lives saved?", and that is a balancing act that I don't think has, or should have, a correct answer.
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Jay Bee

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 26, 2020, 02:18:54 PM
So you believe the government did not, at any point, want to stop the virus? You truly believe the government wanted the virus to spread?

The govt was ok with the virus spreading. Defeat accepted.
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 26, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
The govt was ok with the virus spreading. Defeat accepted.

But you can't really stop it.  You can only slow it.

jesmu84

#65
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 26, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
The govt was ok with the virus spreading. Defeat accepted.

What do you suggest they should have done to stop it from being spread that was acceptable politically and economically?

Also, why were they okay with the virus spreading?

forgetful

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 26, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
The govt was ok with the virus spreading. Defeat accepted.

Did you read that paper, honestly, just curious what you thought.