COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[MU82]

It is quite believable.   One of the problems is that many choose not to.

Yessir. I long ago stopped saying "Unbelievable!" when it comes to COVID-19. Or, for that matter, when it comes to the national leaders who chose to ignore it for months.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Apparently a general order of symptoms has been Discovered. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-19/the-order-covid-19-symptoms-present/12571116

[forgetful]

Apparently a general order of symptoms has been Discovered. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-19/the-order-covid-19-symptoms-present/12571116

Interesting. The only people I know that have had it started with a headache and sore throat. Fever came later.

[warriorchick]

Apparently a general order of symptoms has been Discovered. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-19/the-order-covid-19-symptoms-present/12571116

I have a friend who works at a residential facility for adults with cognitive disabilities.  They have positive cases in several of their housing units.  The odd thing is that in each unit, everone had the exact same symptoms - in one unit it was only loss of taste and smell, in another it was headache and cough, etc.

[jficke13]

Would not complain if Covid kills the Greek system.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/College-Coronavirus-Outbreaks-Linked-to-Greek-Life-15494570.php

(read in reality: oh no! a fall guy that gets clicks! or perhaps: Kids these days!)

[rocky_warrior]

Moving this discussion to the main thread...

I can't speak for Texas, Arizona and NC I suspect your conspiracy theory is also wrong about them but I'm not sure. Again if the same amount of people are getting sick and this is just a case of a halt in testing hospitalizations and deaths will remain constant. If not, they will drop. Stay tuned.

Lenny, I wouldn't be so quick to call this political BS. I've attached screenshots for Florida. Pretty obvious the positive #s peaked around July 18 and declined a bunch since.  However, the death #s have largely remained flat since early August. Seems suspicious to me.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Moving this discussion to the main thread...

Lenny, I wouldn't be so quick to call this political BS. I've attached screenshots for Florida. Pretty obvious the positive #s peaked around July 18 and declined a bunch since.  However, the death #s have largely remained flat since early August. Seems suspicious to me.

Deaths will take longer to lag than that won't they?

[Lennys Tap]

Deaths will take longer to lag than that won't they?

Yes. Deaths should be peaking around now, give or take a week/10 days in either direction. If they don't Strastrophy will have a point.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It used to be 3-weeks but because of better testing I think it is now ~4 in some of the models.  So we should see them come down soon.

I still think the percent positivity staying the same/coming down slightly is a good sign that the interventions are working.  If they were restricting capacity, that should go up as only the sickest get accepted for a test. 

[rocky_warrior]

Aug 8 would be 3 weeks since the averaged peak. Or are hospitalizations lasting longer these days?  Honest question. I thought 21 days was still the
common average number?

[rocky_warrior]

It used to be 3-weeks but because of better testing I think it is now ~4 in some of the models.  So we should see them come down soon.

Still then, average numbers should be dropping rapidly from Aug 15 on. We don't see that yet.

Edit: to be clear in the screenshots, I was trying to highlight the high average of positives/deaths (not 3 or 4 weeks). My point remains the line is pretty flat for the past 3 weeks...

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Still then, average numbers ahold be dropping rapidly from Aug 15 on. We don't see that yet.

I agree.  I'm starting to wade in areas where I have two inches of knowledge in a 12 foot pool, but death is reported way late.  So while it may take 3-weeks in actuality, the report happens far after the death officially.  So it's not perfect but we certainly should see movement soon.

We should already be seeing this in hospitalizations if it were widely shared....

[rocky_warrior]

I agree.  I'm starting to wade in areas where I have two inches of knowledge in a 12 foot pool

Nonsense! We're all internet experts!

Fair points (you and Lenny), but looking at the slopes on the charts, something seems off (hence my agreement with skat).

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/the-trends-are-good-miami-dade-mayor-optimistic-but-says-covid-numbers-need-to-drop-further/2278992/%3famp

This would support the hospitalization side. 

By the way I did hear a state was not reporting their 'quick' Abbott tests.  A few others have been missing lab feeds.  So maybe the magnitude of the case declines are misleading.

That is why this is a funny debate.  Yes FL you are way better than a month ago, but you are still in a really bad place.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I agree.  I'm starting to wade in areas where I have two inches of knowledge in a 12 foot pool, but death is reported way late.  So while it may take 3-weeks in actuality, the report happens far after the death officially.  So it's not perfect but we certainly should see movement soon.

We should already be seeing this in hospitalizations if it were widely shared....

This is correct, average time from hospitalization to reported death is 4 weeks

[wadesworld]

Got tested at State Fair on Tuesday after work.  From turning onto the street that took you into where they were doing the testing to driving out of the testing site took about 5 minutes.  They hardly stuck the swab up my nose, I didn't feel much more than a tickle.  Had my results about 30 hours later.

[shoothoops]

Georgia State University Quarterback diagnosed with heart condition after his experience with COVID-19:

https://twitter.com/mikelecolasurdo/status/1296456027509002240?s=19

[rocky_warrior]

This is correct, average time from hospitalization to reported death is 4 weeks

Aug 15 was 4 weeks from the positive peak.  So is MUScoop declaring it 5 weeks now?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Aug 15 was 4 weeks from the positive peak.  So is MUScoop declaring it 5 weeks now?

I'm just quoting the existing data/science. But I'll happily make up new, totally unsupported facts if it will earn me a free Scoop subscription.

[rocky_warrior]

if it will earn me a free Scoop subscription.

We don't just hand those out.  But around black Friday we might run a promotion - check early and often, quality quantities will be limited.

[GooooMarquette]

Georgia State University Quarterback diagnosed with heart condition after his experience with COVID-19:

https://twitter.com/mikelecolasurdo/status/1296456027509002240?s=19

But he didn't die so many people will say it's no big deal....

[JWags85]

Georgia State University Quarterback diagnosed with heart condition after his experience with COVID-19:

https://twitter.com/mikelecolasurdo/status/1296456027509002240?s=19

Not to be the devils advocate, but there are numerous mild heart conditions, including myocarditis, that can flare up with any sort of viral infection, including flu or common cold.  Without reading more into his case, I would imagine it's what he's experiencing like Eduardo Rodriguez from the Red Sox. It can be serious and it's good that it was picked up, but rushing to label it a COVID specific thing is incorrect.  If anything, the supreme caution around COVID is likely the reason it was picked up. Which is good as it actually leans young in terms of distribution of cases and often flies under the radar.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Not to be the devils advocate, but there are numerous mild heart conditions, including myocarditis, that can flare up with any sort of viral infection, including flu or common cold.  Without reading more into his case, I would imagine it's what he's experiencing like Eduardo Rodriguez from the Red Sox. It can be serious and it's good that it was picked up, but rushing to label it a COVID specific thing is incorrect.  If anything, the supreme caution around COVID is likely the reason it was picked up. Which is good as it actually leans young in terms of distribution of cases and often flies under the radar.

If we use your 'don't jump to conclusions' caution, you shouldn't assume it's not Covid either. 

[JWags85]

If we use your 'don't jump to conclusions' caution, you shouldn't assume it's not Covid either.

Sorry, I'm not meaning in his case, I'm meaning like people getting myocarditis is something specific to COVID when it's not uncommon in other viral/bacterial situations. Close to half a million cases of myocarditis/pericarditis in the US annually. That's all

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Close to half a million cases of myocarditis/pericarditis in the US annually. That's all

Shut it all down then.