Zags

[Jon]

Excuse me my dear Colonel, please shed additional light.

Jams,

Thrilled to have you back. And i give you major respect for the whole Beer Summit Narrative. Scoop at its finest.

[WarriorDad]

You've come a long way from 'what's a chicos'

When they started making that reference it was initially ignored.  I even went to the urban dictionary to see if there was some double meaning. What would the proper response have been? 

[Cheeks]

Thank you, Jockey.  I appreciate the kind words. I am not here to talk politics, just MU sports and keep things fun but yet accurate.

If your avatar signifies you as a Canadian then you are truly a good dude. I love visiting the Great White North and find the people there among the nicest and most welcoming anywhere. Plus, I love Strange Brew!

More like he is embarrassed of the American flag so this is his form of protest.

[Goose]

Jockey and Billy

I would say that I am 99% certain I have never engaged in any political post on Scoop. I have little interest in others political views, I am here to talk MU ball. So, my guess you assume I would not agree with you and that is fine. Scoop is MU ball to me and little else.

[Jon]

More like he is embarrassed of the American flag so this is his form of protest.

There is an 8 year cycle where a small but loud-mouthed segment of America states they are moving to Canada. Not Mexico. Canada.

Of course they never do.

I love their conviction.

[Jockey]

Jockey and Billy

I would say that I am 99% certain I have never engaged in any political post on Scoop. I have little interest in others political views, I am here to talk MU ball. So, my guess you assume I would not agree with you and that is fine. Scoop is MU ball to me and little else.

Actually, you should have addressed this to me rather than adding Billy. He had no part in this. I just made a post in support of him.

But, I agree with your sentiment completely.

BTW, if you do want to know why I have the Canadian flag as an avatar, you can PM me and I would be glad to explain. It's really very simple.

[Cheeks]

There is an 8 year cycle where a small but loud-mouthed segment of America states they are moving to Canada. Not Mexico. Canada.

Of course they never do.

I love their conviction.

Yes, I have mentioned this often....always Canada.  Weird.  LOL

[TedBaxter]

More importantly, wee kneed to find a wey to becum watt da Zags consistently have becum as a basketball power, aina?

The key is getting guys to buy in enough to spend 5 years in the program.  The foreign players are huge of course, but I think the key is Fews ability to find sleepers and transfers and put teams on the floor who are full of 5th year players.  Gonzaga has 6 guys on the roster who have spent a redshirt year, either as a high school signee or as a transfer. 

[Goose]

Jockey

You could have any flag you want as an avatar, provided you know ball. Again, this site means a lot to me as place to talk MU ball, little else. If I want to debate politics, I will bother the wonderful lady next to me in my bed.

[Cheeks]

Actually, you should have addressed this to me rather than adding Billy. He had no part in this. I just made a post in support of him.

But, I agree with your sentiment completely.

BTW, if you do want to know why I have the Canadian flag as an avatar, you can PM me and I would be glad to explain. It's really very simple.

No need, you already told everyone.  Your post is still up in the NFL thread on why you did it...which is your right, of course.

[Jon]

No need, you already told everyone.  Your post is still up in the NFL thread on why you did it...which is your right, of course.

Life is about choices.

A few years ago I decided to focus my pigskin loyalty on my Michigan Wolverines. It is all the football I need or can stomach.

Go Blue!

[Goose]

Keefe

I am on the Blue pigskin bandwagon. I want Harbaugh to knock it out of the park.

[tower912]

With Urban gone, maybe Harbaugh will actually win a game that matters.

[Jon]

Keefe

I am on the Blue pigskin bandwagon. I want Haurbaugh to knock it out of the park.

While back in WI the thing which struck me was how many people wear UW licensed clothing. It is far more common today than when I went to MU.

Now I guarantee the vast majority of the folks never set foot on that campus. And I guarantee some of the babushkas I see decked out in red likely have no idea UW plays football.

State pride? I think celebrating Holstein dairy cows is more apropos than Bucky badger sweatshirts.

But far more baffling are the UW graduates who seem to feel that UW - Madison is some sort of academic powerhouse akin to a Princeton. UW is a good, not great university. Anything beyond that is not wishful thinking; delusional is more like it. The way those arrogant sh1ts talk about their college one would think it is the finest university in America.

[Jockey]

With Urban gone, maybe Harbaugh will actually win a game that matters.

Ouch!

But, true.

[hairy worthen]

Keefe

I am on the Blue pigskin bandwagon. I want Harbaugh to knock it out of the park.

as long as they beat bucky I am fine with big blue, not a Harbaugh fan but for some odd reason I want to see him succeed at the highest level.

[Jon]

With Urban gone, maybe Harbaugh will actually win a game that matters.

Maybe now that Meyer and Tressel have left Columbus Ohio might try to win without cheating!

[brewcity77]

Typical paradigm of someone whose career has been spent in the public sector.

What's the average length for coaches to get to their first Final 4? Their first National Championship?

[Herman Cain]

Substitute "1967-1977" for now and you could substitute "Marquette" for "Gonzaga."

In a way similar ;however, I think our MU teams of that era were more feared by opponents than the Zags.

[Billy Hoyle]

Jockey and Billy

I would say that I am 99% certain I have never engaged in any political post on Scoop. I have little interest in others political views, I am here to talk MU ball. So, my guess you assume I would not agree with you and that is fine. Scoop is MU ball to me and little else.

Goose, I did not mean to insinuate you had. I certainly haven't seen any. If you feel I was out of line I am sorry.

[Billy Hoyle]

Backyard Beer Summit II. Billy, how did you enjoy the free Disney tickets?

Free? Man, I got screwed. I just got a meal voucher at Epcot Center and couldn't use it at the Morocco pavilion, 

[Jon]

What's the average length for coaches to get to their first Final 4? Their first National Championship?

I don't know the average length of time but here is a sample of coaches who have gotten to at least an Elite 8 within five years of being at a school.And this is not comprehensive by any means:

Self, Cal, Roy Williams, Stevens, Pearl, Lefty, Harrick, Shaka, Sean Miller, Denny Crum, Pitino, Knight, Lute, Calhoun, Donovan, Jack Gardner, Joe B., Tark, Phog, Fred Taylor, Bartow, Holland, Guthridge, Hugh Durham, Lou Henson, Ted Owens, Lee Rose, Tex Winter...etc...

I think this puts to rest the notion that a coach needs 12 years (or whatever ridiculous number you threw out) to get superior results at a school.

If I open up the aperture to include Sweet 16s within 5 years the number explodes.

I know you fancy yourself some sort of college hoops expert but I strongly recommend you stop dealing in hyperbole. All it does is discredit your arguments.

Fact is, Wojo's tenure at Marquette has been very pedestrian. Milquetoast results from a bland guy. Frankly, why should we have expected differently.

Numerous coaches have stepped in at a school and gotten to an Elite 8 or better within 5 years. Wojo can't even get to the Dance most years and when he does we get humiliated - most recently by a mid major of very slender accomplishment.

Personally, I expect much better. I demand excellence in all facets of my life. There is no reason why I shouldn't expect the same of my favorite sports enterprise.

[real chili 83]

ND sucks

[brewcity77]

Self, Cal, Roy Williams, Stevens, Pearl, Lefty, Harrick, Shaka, Sean Miller, Denny Crum, Pitino, Knight, Lute, Calhoun, Donovan, Jack Gardner, Joe B., Tark, Phog, Fred Taylor, Bartow, Holland, Guthridge, Hugh Durham, Lou Henson, Ted Owens, Lee Rose, Tex Winter...etc...

And how many of those were working their first head coaching job? Self didn't even have a NCAA appearance in his first 5 seasons as a head coach. Cal didn't get to the Elite 8 until year 7. Calhoun didn't make it out of the first weekend until his 18th season as a head coach.

I know you fancy yourself some Renaissance man, but you should've stopped right here:

I don't know

[jesmu84]

And how many of those were working their first head coaching job? Self didn't even have a NCAA appearance in his first 5 seasons as a head coach. Cal didn't get to the Elite 8 until year 7. Calhoun didn't make it out of the first weekend until his 18th season as a head coach.

I know you fancy yourself some Renaissance man, but you should've stopped right here:

And how many took over a team that didn't even make the NIT?