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MU82

Quote from: MU1in77 on August 26, 2022, 11:19:27 PM
Jethro Tull?  I think think Dire Straits said it best in Sultans of Swing:

"They don't give a damn about any FLUTE playing band
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll"!

Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MU82 on August 26, 2022, 11:29:29 PM
Really don't mind if you sit this one out.


Lol. Exactly. People like what they like. And that's ok.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: MU1in77 on August 26, 2022, 11:19:27 PM
Jethro Tull?  I think think Dire Straits said it best in Sultans of Swing:

"They don't give a damn about any FLUTE playing band
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll"!

uh, actually:
They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll

JWags85

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on August 29, 2022, 08:55:09 AM
uh, actually:
They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll

I was gonna say, I recall Knopfler was always pretty complimentary of Jethro Tull, especially Anderson and Barre

tower912

I am going to speculate he was goofing around and knew exactly what he was doing with his disdain of flute playing bands.    Assume it was misquoting for humorous purpose.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

nyg

Quote from: tower912 on August 29, 2022, 09:28:43 AM
I am going to speculate he was goofing around and knew exactly what he was doing with his disdain of flute playing bands.    Assume it was misquoting for humorous purpose.

Last flute mention.

The Marshal Tucker Band utilized the flute in the beginning and end of the song "Can't You See".  A beautiful song written and sung by MTB member Toy Caldwell, the lead guitarist.  Interesting back story on Toy, he enlisted in Marines, sent to Vietnam in late 1960's, wounded and came back to U.S. and started the band with high school friends. Both his brothers, one a band member, were both killed in car accidents, like weeks apart in early 1980's I recall.

1973 song, jeez getting old...

MU1in77

Quote from: tower912 on August 29, 2022, 09:28:43 AM
I am going to speculate he was goofing around and knew exactly what he was doing with his disdain of flute playing bands.    Assume it was misquoting for humorous purpose.
You are correct - never was a big fan of Jethro Tull. There were so many other great bands in the late 60's and 70's that I thought were much better.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on August 29, 2022, 08:55:09 AM
uh, actually:
They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band
It ain't what they call Rock and Roll

Early Chicago was pretty damn good.

Jay Bee

Heard there are a number of flute players here on scoop aina
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 29, 2022, 02:38:39 PM
Heard there are a number of flute players here on scoop aina

Does that bother you?
Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

tower912

#185
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 29, 2022, 02:38:39 PM
Heard there are a number of flute players here on scoop aina
....when all you need is a piccolo player.......
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: nyg on August 29, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Last flute mention.

The Marshal Tucker Band utilized the flute in the beginning and end of the song "Can't You See".  A beautiful song written and sung by MTB member Toy Caldwell, the lead guitarist.  Interesting back story on Toy, he enlisted in Marines, sent to Vietnam in late 1960's, wounded and came back to U.S. and started the band with high school friends. Both his brothers, one a band member, were both killed in car accidents, like weeks apart in early 1980's I recall.

1973 song, jeez getting old...

and recorded live at the PAC in 1974 and released on Searchin' For a Rainbow

Lennys Tap

Quote from: nyg on August 29, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Last flute mention.

The Marshal Tucker Band utilized the flute in the beginning and end of the song "Can't You See".  A beautiful song written and sung by MTB member Toy Caldwell, the lead guitarist.  Interesting back story on Toy, he enlisted in Marines, sent to Vietnam in late 1960's, wounded and came back to U.S. and started the band with high school friends. Both his brothers, one a band member, were both killed in car accidents, like weeks apart in early 1980's I recall.

1973 song, jeez getting old...

Just personal preference but other than "Aqualung" I wasn't a big Jethro Tull fan.

OTOH, I loved the Marshall Tucker Band. "Heard it in a Love Song" is my favorite among many really good songs.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 16, 2019, 11:13:22 PM
Just saw Brian do an acoustic set in Dublin a few months back and honestly it might've been a better show than seeing gaslight anthem.

I'm seeing Gaslight Anthem next month on their reunion tour.

I just saw The Killers for the first time live. Damn, Flowers is one hell of a frontman and performer. Great balance between the spectacle with lights, confetti, etc., and the music. One of the best live shows I've ever seen.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 29, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
I'm seeing Gaslight Anthem next month on their reunion tour.

Very interested to see how they sound.  One of my favorite live bands of the 2010s.  They were just magnificent.  Brian Fallon has been through a lot and put on a lot of weight last I saw, which isn't necessarily a voice killer, but should be interesting to see.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 29, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
I just saw The Killers for the first time live. Damn, Flowers is one hell of a frontman and performer. Great balance between the spectacle with lights, confetti, etc., and the music. One of the best live shows I've ever seen.

They are so awesome.  Its incredible how smoothly they transitioned into an arena band.  My good friend worked on a branding project with their drummer a few years ago and I spent a couple hours with him out in Chicago.  I remember him saying something like "we design all our tours that if something went wrong, we could play the show in a 500 seat theater and still crush it".  I think that translates to how their show works.  Its still all based in sounding tight and being great performers, with or without the spectacle.  Ive seen them in venues from a few hundred all the way to thousands and never been remotely disappointed.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: JWags85 on August 29, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
Very interested to see how they sound.  One of my favorite live bands of the 2010s.  They were just magnificent.  Brian Fallon has been through a lot and put on a lot of weight last I saw, which isn't necessarily a voice killer, but should be interesting to see.

I noticed how much bigger he looked in promotional photos than he did before they went on hiatus. The Europe shows have sounded really good though.


[/quote] They are so awesome.  Its incredible how smoothly they transitioned into an arena band.  My good friend worked on a branding project with their drummer a few years ago and I spent a couple hours with him out in Chicago.  I remember him saying something like "we design all our tours that if something went wrong, we could play the show in a 500 seat theater and still crush it".  I think that translates to how their show works.  Its still all based in sounding tight and being great performers, with or without the spectacle.  Ive seen them in venues from a few hundred all the way to thousands and never been remotely disappointed.
[/quote]

I've been to shows where the music was secondary to the spectacle (U2 360) and this was so well done. My wife and I are considering flying back for their Detroit show and taking my nephew since he's a drummer and their drummer is awesome! I kept asking my wife "how have we not seen these guys live before now?" The opener was Johnny Marr, late of the Smiths and Modest Mouse. Damn, he was good too.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

NCMUFan

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 26, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
Ty nyg.  Do we know why they are NOT in the Rock and Roll HOF?  I'm absolutely floored by Heavy Horses.  I've now listened to it 10 times since last night.
Need to get "Songs from the Wood" if you haven't listened to that one yet.
Heard that many of the songs or lyrics on Aqualung was actually written by Ian Anderson's wife.  Although probably largest in sales, Aqualung is pretty far down on my list of best Jethro Tull albums.

NCMUFan


JWags85

Quote from: NCMUFan on August 29, 2022, 08:50:18 PM
Flutist and Rock-n-Roll
Traffic - Chris Wood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeW-vxQaPVE
Moody Blues - Ray Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIkhfep2l4

Speaking of Traffic, who is the most underrated musician of the 60s/70s and why is it Steve Winwood?

Multiple 10 singles with 2 different bands before the age of 20, a platinum album with Blind Faith, then 8 top 10 singles and 4 top 10 albums as a solo artist...all before he was 40.  What an absolute animal.

MuggsyB

#194
Quote from: JWags85 on August 30, 2022, 09:54:04 AM
Speaking of Traffic, who is the most underrated musician of the 60s/70s and why is it Steve Winwood?

Multiple 10 singles with 2 different bands before the age of 20, a platinum album with Blind Faith, then 8 top 10 singles and 4 top 10 albums as a solo artist...all before he was 40.  What an absolute animal.

Agreed.  He has always been great live as well.   Tremendous talent.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: JWags85 on August 30, 2022, 09:54:04 AM
Speaking of Traffic, who is the most underrated musician of the 60s/70s and why is it Steve Winwood?

Multiple 10 singles with 2 different bands before the age of 20, a platinum album with Blind Faith, then 8 top 10 singles and 4 top 10 albums as a solo artist...all before he was 40.  What an absolute animal.

100%. Traffic/Windwood are killer.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

#196
Don't forget his work with the Spencer Davis Group as a teenager.

I think a lot of the reason he gets overlooked is because he took a good portion of the 1970s off from making new music. After Traffic broke up, he didn't do much until his 1977 solo album - which flopped. He then released Arc of a Diver in 1980, which was the start of his rise as a solo artist.

He's also a pretty unassuming guy versus the typical front man.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

NCMUFan

#197
Arc of a diver, Stevie Winwood played all the instruments.
I guess after being a master of keyboard and guitar the rest would be breezy easy.
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MU1in77

I've seen Winwood live 5 times - the last time was 5-6 years ago when he opened for Steely Dan at the BMO Harris Pavilion.  I took my son and after every song told him it would be the best song he was going to hear that night. He even performed a shortened version of Low Spark and finished up with Gimme Some Lovin.  He sounded like he did in the 80's.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 29, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
I just saw The Killers for the first time live. Damn, Flowers is one hell of a frontman and performer. Great balance between the spectacle with lights, confetti, etc., and the music. One of the best live shows I've ever seen.

+1  I've seen them twice, and both shows were amazing.

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