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jesmu84

Is Archie Miller a bag-drop kind of guy?

MuMark

Does he have to be to get an Indiana kid to go to IU for a year before going to the NBA?


Jay Bee

REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Herman Cain on April 30, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
Nice typeset
IU got a little lucky in the sense that he was a huge huge louisville lean before the debacle.  He is right across the ohio r. From louisville. 
Also goes to show that its not that hard to get the indiana kids to stay home unless u are a complete loser like Crean and the state's coaches know it
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Windyplayer

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 30, 2018, 09:55:33 PM
IU got a little lucky in the sense that he was a huge huge louisville lean before the debacle.  He is right across the ohio r. From louisville. 
Also goes to show that its not that hard to get the indiana kids to stay home unless u are a complete loser like Crean and the state's coaches know it
Not a Crean fan, but he had some pretty good classes including 5-star, Indiana native Cody Zeller. Recruiting was never the problem...

lawdog77

I think the stat was he only signed 5 top 100 kids from Indiana during his time there.

barfolomew

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 01, 2018, 10:23:32 AM
I think the stat was he only signed 5 top 100 kids from Indiana during his time there.

Out of how many?
Five could quite impressive or quite terrible. I'm guessing it's somewhere in the middle.
Relationes Incrementum Victoria

GGGG

Quote from: barfolomew on May 01, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Out of how many?
Five could quite impressive or quite terrible. I'm guessing it's somewhere in the middle.



https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/03/16/insider--state-recruiting-became-issue-tom-crean/99265218/


Essentially, he had the momentum early with Zeller, but lost five straight Mr. Basketballs to other power programs - including one whose family were lifelong IU fans.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Windyplayer on May 01, 2018, 10:03:01 AM
Not a Crean fan, but he had some pretty good classes including 5-star, Indiana native Cody Zeller. Recruiting was never the problem...

Actually was the problem .  Cody zeller graduated high school 6 years ago and the best players continuously left the state.  Look at the stars on the xavier and msu and purdue also ucla and others rosters.  When the top 4-5 players each year are 4 and 5 star players and none of them sign at IU year after year, well yes u do have a problem. Many articles discussing this with comments from players and coaches to this affect.  Interweb is ur friend
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: barfolomew on May 01, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Out of how many?
Five could quite impressive or quite terrible. I'm guessing it's somewhere in the middle.

Indiana probably averages 5 top 100 kids a year, arguably the most fertile recruiting area in the country.  Typically a mcdonalds all american or more a year.  One only needs to look at msu's and xaviers rosters for a small sampling.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Good article sultan, that was the sentiment and the reality.  5 star recruits going everywhere but IU, might want to read it windy.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

1SE

Debating if our coach from over a decade ago was a recruiting failure at the job he was fired from over a year ago.

We are officially in Scoop offseason...
Real Warriors Demand Excellence

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: 1SE on May 01, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Debating if our coach from over a decade ago was a recruiting failure at the job he was fired from over a year ago.

We are officially in Scoop offseason...

Nah,  no one has brought up bringing back football yet. That's the last sign of the off-season along with a TC update and the Warriors nickname (both of which we covered already)
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


bilsu

Quote from: #bansultan on May 01, 2018, 10:42:20 AM

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/03/16/insider--state-recruiting-became-issue-tom-crean/99265218/


Essentially, he had the momentum early with Zeller, but lost five straight Mr. Basketballs to other power programs - including one whose family were lifelong IU fans.
I think it gets harder to recruit when fans start calling for your head.

real chili 83

Quote from: TAMU McEwen on May 01, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Nah,  no one has brought up bringing back football yet. That's the last sign of the off-season along with a TC update and the Warriors nickname (both of which we covered already)

Nah, it kicks into high gear with the Sonoran Salsa thread.....which starts this weekend at the Waukesha Farmers Market!

lawdog77

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on May 01, 2018, 11:26:28 AM
Indiana probably averages 5 top 100 kids a year, arguably the most fertile recruiting area in the country.  Typically a mcdonalds all american or more a year.  One only needs to look at msu's and xaviers rosters for a small sampling.
ESPN article states 5 out if a possible 35...I am too lazy to fact check

GGGG

Quote from: bilsu on May 01, 2018, 11:48:33 AM
I think it gets harder to recruit when fans start calling for your head.


Well no one has really regularly kept the in-state recruits in Indiana since the 1980s anyway.  Knight was losing them with regularity as well.  (Eric Montross being the earliest most notable.)  It really is a somewhat irrational expectation of a lot of IU fans.

barfolomew

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 01, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
ESPN article states 5 out if a possible 35...I am too lazy to fact check

So I'd say 14% is fine.
Not great, but OK.

Figure that at least 40% (ass-pull number) would leave the state anyway for various reasons, that leaves 21 out of 35 top 100 kids for the four high major programs in Indiana.
That would be 5.25 kids for each program if they pull at even levels. Let's assume, as the Hoosier fanbase undoubtedly does, that they should be the top pull in the state, and Crean "should" have secured at most 7 or 8 kids.
Relationes Incrementum Victoria

The Lens

Quote from: TAMU McEwen on May 01, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Nah,  no one has brought up bringing back football yet. That's the last sign of the off-season along with a TC update and the Warriors nickname (both of which we covered already)

Don't forget the on campus arena...

President Lovell hasn't...

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/marquette-from-the-ground-up/52113

QuoteThe competition facility remains a question mark. The team plays most of its games indoor at Valley Fields. There is a grass soccer field that was the site of the sold-out NCAA Tournament First Round game against North Carolina, but use of it is heavily dependent upon the weather.

Marquette doesn't have the picturesque grass malls, or the brick and marble structures synonymous with the sport's Northeastern and Mid-Atlantic institutions. It's an urban campus, mixed in with a city in the midst of revitalization. But, the campus has bought up surrounding land, with acres of valuable real estate at its disposal for projects. In the next six to eight years, about $600 million in growth in facilities on campus already planned, said Lovell.

"We have about 11 acres. Whether that's soccer, a new arena for basketball in the future, lacrosse, we now have an opportunity to master plan and use that property," he said. "We're taking our time to figure out what's next. We have the ability to dream because we have the space.

"We do want to get to a time when we have a playing facility for our lacrosse team."

The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

DUNKS45

Quote from: real chili 83 on May 01, 2018, 12:02:52 PM
Nah, it kicks into high gear with the Sonoran Salsa thread.....which starts this weekend at the Waukesha Farmers Market!

Get some!


GGGG

Quote from: barfolomew on May 01, 2018, 12:37:38 PM
So I'd say 14% is fine.
Not great, but OK.

Figure that at least 40% (ass-pull number) would leave the state anyway for various reasons, that leaves 21 out of 35 top 100 kids for the four high major programs in Indiana.
That would be 5.25 kids for each program if they pull at even levels. Let's assume, as the Hoosier fanbase undoubtedly does, that they should be the top pull in the state, and Crean "should" have secured at most 7 or 8 kids.



IU should pull in way more than 14% of the top 100 kids in the state - if they have all been recruited by them.  You're being way too easy on TC here, and I'm not even a TC hater.

4everwarriors

Quote from: The Lens on May 01, 2018, 12:42:06 PM
Don't forget the on campus arena...

President Lovell hasn't...

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/marquette-from-the-ground-up/52113



Dis is gonna piss off Ma and Pa. Especially, since dey didn't here any grumblin's 'round Zilber, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

source?

Quote from: TAMU McEwen on May 01, 2018, 11:47:32 AM
Nah,  no one has brought up bringing back football yet. That's the last sign of the off-season along with a TC update and the Warriors nickname (both of which we covered already)

Two words: medical school

The Lens

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 01, 2018, 01:41:54 PM


Dis is gonna piss off Ma and Pa. Especially, since dey didn't here any grumblin's 'round Zilber, hey?

;)
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

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