Recruiting as of 9/15/24

[Always a Warrior]

Noted message board poster "An6el" insinuates the verbal is in:
https://kansas.247sports.com/Board/59455/Contents/Grimes-109663962?Page=2

Is that KSFNY?

[muguru]

For your statements to be accurate, Gonzaga must be consistently getting recruits the level of Grimes to commit. Are they?

Well, they consistently get kids rated higher than MU does, plus look at last years team..LOADED with incredibly talented transfers. There are so many ways to build a national championship contender.

[real chili 83]

So to sum up this day, none of us know sh1t. 

[bobnoxious]

Yet we are all glued to the site, was way less productive than normal.  Thanks Scoop

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

People seem to conveniently forget ,when citing Wojo is a "young unknown" Coach, what was Buzz when he took over?? He was far lessor known then Wojo is/was. Yes, the situations are different compared to what Buzz inherited and what Wojo inherited, but it didn't take Buzz long as a lessor known Coach to have MU on the doorstep of becoming elite. Yes, the methods of recruiting between Buzz/Wojo are different, but the point is, I don't think that one can use Wojo being inexperienced etc etc as an excuse, and that he needs more time. Goose is exactly right, yes, there's been progress, but it's been slow. I mean they have had one tournament berth under Wojo, and it pains me to say it, but they probably aren't going to make it this year either. Now NEXT year should be interesting and a potentially very good year for MU...but what is a "very good year"?? Winning a game in the tourney?? Is that how low we have all set the bar?? The talent is getting better, no question about that, but it's still far from "elite" talent IMO.

Pursuing Grimes is a step in the right direction, no question about it. Wojo definitely "gets it" from that perspective, but the key is landing a Grimes type or two before the program can REALLY ascend itself into the upper tier of CBB again.

Wojo has probably elevated the program more rungs up the ladder thab buzz did.  Buzz inherited a top 25 team that had been to 3 ncaas in a row and had 4 returning starting seniors.  He elevated the program to a second weekend level. 
Wojo inherited a non nit team with basically no talent

[muguru]

Yet we are all glued to the site, was way less productive than normal.  Thanks Scoop

No more need to be...it is officially OVER per someone that is 100% locked in. Good luck to QG, wherever he decides to go.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

You seem to forget Buzz had them on the doorstep of Elite in no time at all. Different situations, yes..but it CAN be done in a short time frame.

Buzz also left the dumpster fire of a roster Wojo inherited.

[jficke13]

Tiny Tim

That made my day. That is the first for me being me told to have more fun in life. I promise, I'll give a try!!

Somehow I figure something in your MU education will help you manage to succeed.

[brewcity77]

Wojo inherited a complete renovation, Buzz stopped recruiting for Marquette, was on the outs with the MU hierarchy etc...

FIFY

[4everwarriors]

Gotta just ax, why is it wee don't want Herro, hey?

[Logi4three]

So to sum up this day, none of us know sh1t.

Ha, ha!  Great post.  I just logged on and am now logging off because of your foreshadowing of what I was about to start reading. 

[Herman Cain]

Gotta just ax, why is it wee don't want Herro, hey?

Ball hogging self absorbed  parent overly involved.  Other than that how was the play Mrs Lincoln?

[4everwarriors]

Butt, he's ok four Cal, hey? Somethin's not adden up, ai na?

[MuMark]

Cal can afford to take those kind of chances......just reloads every year.

Herman's take is not wrong on this 1 IMO.

Doesn't mean he isn't talented and won't be a good college player.

[naginiF]

Stop worrying about being elite, let's see what team Wojo/Johnson do in 19 and 20 .........

..........This is a message board but please give this elite crap a rest were not even close to that status, YET

Completely agree.  Everyone has a different idea what 'elite' is and, unless we are at historically successful levels (UCLA champ run level), there are always going to be folks who don't think we're good enough. 

We have a damn nice program with rich history and a promising future. 

Some are WAY too emotionally attached to their idea of 'elite'.  In the Venn diagram of MU hoops fans the other circle (assuming all of us fall into the 'MU hoops fan' circle) is the "i need to prove to Badger fans that MU is good" group because their neighbors/co-workers/in-laws tell them differently.  Many Scoopers live in the overlap.  A few are clearly impacted by it.

[esotericmindguy]

Isn't he 100% KU on CB?

Yes. Has been during the whole process. Apparently he wants them to update their original pick. Good grief.

[tower912]

  parent overly involved. 

Cheesy Tommy?

[mayfairskatingrink]

Agreed, but Wojo is taking a different, more measured path. More patience, and it looks more like an actual plan. And I loved Buzz! But even Buzz took a dip his last year. Was his model as sustain-able? Or did he get a bit lucky his first few years on guys way outperforming? Not a slight at Buzz, all coaches need some luck. Just saying program building is not always a straight line up in perpetuity.

But did those guys overperform because of Buzz's coaching ability?  It's not luck if a coach gets the most out of his talent.

IMO, there's been no evidence yet that Wojo gets his guys to make huge strides year-to-year.

[We R Final Four]

Herman's take is not wrong on this 1 IMO.

Herman's opinion seems to be fairly accepted as being accurate. So what?

MU won't go after a ball hog? ....and he's self-absorbed? NOOOOOO!
Daddy is looking over shoulder—well that's the first time that has ever happened in the history of HS recruiting.

I think 4ever is suggesting are these are the real reasons we have not pursued a top 40 kid who lives down the street?

I'm not suggesting we push hard for the kid if things don't work out in our favor, but there must be more to the story than being a ball hog and a daddy's boy.

[tower912]

Not a point guard, no need to oversign unless it is a perfect fit for a need.

[genious expert]

Herman's opinion seems to be fairly accepted as being accurate. So what?

MU won't go after a ball hog? ....and he's self-absorbed? NOOOOOO!
Daddy is looking over shoulder—well that's the first time that has ever happened in the history of HS recruiting.

I think 4ever is suggesting are these are the real reasons we have not pursued a top 40 kid who lives down the street?

I'm not suggesting we push hard for the kid if things don't work out in our favor, but there must be more to the story than being a ball hog and a daddy's boy.

Hear me out on this one cuz it might sound crazy, but maybe he just doesn't want to come to MU

[RJax55]

Hear me out on this one cuz it might sound crazy, but maybe he just doesn't want to come to MU

You're crazy

[Slim]

Gotta just ax, why is it wee don't want Herro, hey?
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His dad told me 16 months ago that he was butt hurt that we were recruiting QG. His ego was hurt that we didn't make him our #1 priority. His pride closed the door on us - not the other way around. And I think no way is Chesey his dad.

[MomofMUltiples]

Or maybe he's not Wojo's style of player or doesn't fit his current plan.  I'm sure Cheesy will weigh in on this, but it seemed to me that Wojo backed off on Herro long before the kid committed to Wisconsin.  There can be any number of reasons - on both sides - why this connection has not been made.  I'm not going to second guess Wojo on recruiting (I'll leave that to those scoopers that seem to have "inside information" that we only find out about well after the fact).

[The Lens]

Wojo recruited Henry so the parent thing must not scare him.  Tho maybe he learned his lesson. 

Otherwise all the cocky stuff just reminds me of Travis.   IMO, sign him up.  A top HS coach once told me "if you can't control a parent, you don't deserve their kid".