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Cam Ward, a four-star small forward in the 2025 class, has cut his list to 10 schools: Alabama, Florida State, Kansas State, Marquette, Maryland, Michigan State, Mississippi State, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, and Virginia.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

avid1010

Quote from: MU82 on July 28, 2024, 03:25:21 PM
Cam Ward, a four-star small forward in the 2025 class, has cut his list to 10 schools: Alabama, Florida State, Kansas State, Marquette, Maryland, Michigan State, Mississippi State, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, and Virginia.
Why choose MU over Alabama money?  Maybe that whole player development vs portal thing plays a role in situations like this?

DFW HOYA

Quote from: MU82 on July 28, 2024, 03:25:21 PM
Cam Ward, a four-star small forward in the 2025 class, has cut his list to 10 schools: Alabama, Florida State, Kansas State, Marquette, Maryland, Michigan State, Mississippi State, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, and Virginia.

Another example of how years of Georgetown ignoring the DC recruiting base have left Ed Cooley to build bridges which are no longer there.

He would be a fine pickup for Marquette.

El Guerrero 2

Quote from: DFW HOYA on July 28, 2024, 06:27:10 PM
Another example of how years of Georgetown ignoring the DC recruiting base have left Ed Cooley to build bridges which are no longer there.

He would be a fine pickup for Marquette.

It is crazy how DC has become a recruiting gold mine and Georgetown doesn't seem to be involved at all with any of them.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: El Guerrero 2 on July 28, 2024, 09:57:10 PM
It is crazy how DC has become a recruiting gold mine and Georgetown doesn't seem to be involved at all with any of them.
I feel like the exact same sentence has been written about Chicago and DePaul for decades.

Viper

Quote from: El Guerrero 2 on July 28, 2024, 09:57:10 PM
It is crazy how DC has become a recruiting gold mine and Georgetown doesn't seem to be involved at all with any of them.
The DC area (DC, nVa and MD burbs) has always been a hoops hot bed...the heyday of the ACC 1970's -'00 would stock-up on DC talent. DeMatha, Gonzaga, Springbrook, Archbishop Carrol, Paint Branch, Good Council and others ...always had/have D-1 talent. I lived in that area as a kid through jr yr of HS. It was pretty cool seeing coaches like Dean Smith, Jimmy V, Coach K, Lefty Driesell, Terry Holland in the stands. True old-school recruiting before AAU etc became a big deal. (btw, Lefty had a great overnight summer camp at Cole Field House. I'm a 8th grader 'coached' by Bernard Toone! Barked at by Lefty! Awesome!!!)

Viper

Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 29, 2024, 08:24:08 AM
I feel like the exact same sentence has been written about Chicago and DePaul for decades.
agreed. In fact, I wonder what Marquette's outreach is to the Chicago area these days?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Viper on July 29, 2024, 08:28:48 AM
agreed. In fact, I wonder what Marquette's outreach is to the Chicago area these days?

Their first commit for next year, Ian Miletic, is from the Chicago area. (Rolling Meadows to be exact.)

I also don't think it matters all that much anyway.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

tower912

MU's reach is nationwide.  Celebrate.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: tower912 on July 29, 2024, 08:40:27 AM
MU's reach is nationwide.  Celebrate.

As are most schools these days.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

tower912

Yes.  I cannot fathom taking a provincial approach.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: avid1010 on July 28, 2024, 04:41:59 PM
Why choose MU over Alabama money?  Maybe that whole player development vs portal thing plays a role in situations like this?

What is "Alabama money"? I'd like to know what you know about what Alabama is offering him.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on July 29, 2024, 08:54:38 AM
Yes.  I cannot fathom taking a provincial approach.

You new here?
Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

avid1010

Quote from: MU82 on July 29, 2024, 10:35:52 AM
What is "Alabama money"? I'd like to know what you know about what Alabama is offering him.
No clue, but feel it's safe to assume Alabama has a considerably larger NIL fund in comparison to MU.  When Arkansas is floating $5 million, Kansas was reportedly at $4 million last year...I would think Alabama and many SEC schools are going to keep pace. 

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on July 29, 2024, 10:35:52 AM
What is "Alabama money"? I'd like to know what you know about what Alabama is offering him.

Some coaches (especially if they happen to be at Marquette) land quality players because they're good recruiters selling a quality program.
Other coaches only land good players because they drop a bag.
Nate Oats, despite his record of on-court success and getting players to the NBA, is the obviously the latter and Cam Ward would only choose Alabama because of the money.
There's no sour grapes or resentment whatsoever in these comments.

wadesworld

Quote from: avid1010 on July 29, 2024, 10:59:20 AM
No clue, but feel it's safe to assume Alabama has a considerably larger NIL fund in comparison to MU.  When Arkansas is floating $5 million, Kansas was reportedly at $4 million last year...I would think Alabama and many SEC schools are going to keep pace.

So you admit that you have no idea what anybody is paying, but you know MU can't keep pace with any of the big boys?

Rutgers is clearly paying a pretty penny for their men's basketball roster.  Why did Nigel James decide to come to MU when Rutgers was a finalist?

If Bama is going to offer 3x+ what MU can offer Cam Ward, why would Ward even include MU as a finalist?  Just stringing Shaka along?

Why has a guy like Kam Jones stuck around at MU when he could've got much more money hitting the portal?

Maybe just realize you don't know what MU can and cannot pay and see where things go.  Shaka has been competing just fine with the big boys in his 3 years here.  Until MU falls behind, maybe just enjoy it rather than being constantly worried about it.

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MUbiz

Quote from: wadesworld on July 29, 2024, 11:05:16 AM
until MU falls behind, maybe just enjoy it rather than being constantly worried about it.

This 100%

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on July 29, 2024, 11:02:19 AM
Some coaches (especially if they happen to be at Marquette) land quality players because they're good recruiters selling a quality program.
Other coaches only land good players because they drop a bag.
Nate Oats, despite his record of on-court success and getting players to the NBA, is the obviously the latter and Cam Ward would only choose Alabama because of the money.
There's no sour grapes or resentment whatsoever in these comments.

This makes sense. And so does this:

Quote from: wadesworld on July 29, 2024, 11:05:16 AM
So you admit that you have no idea what anybody is paying, but you know MU can't keep pace with any of the big boys?

Rutgers is clearly paying a pretty penny for their men's basketball roster.  Why did Nigel James decide to come to MU when Rutgers was a finalist?

If Bama is going to offer 3x+ what MU can offer Cam Ward, why would Ward even include MU as a finalist?  Just stringing Shaka along?

Why has a guy like Kam Jones stuck around at MU when he could've got much more money hitting the portal?

Maybe just realize you don't know what MU can and cannot pay and see where things go.  Shaka has been competing just fine with the big boys in his 3 years here.  Until MU falls behind, maybe just enjoy it rather than being constantly worried about it.

Personally, I can't get myself to fret too much about this stuff. So far, Shaka & Co. seems to have a pretty good handle how to handle the "new normal."

Combine that with the fact that we hear so-and-so is getting X dollars from School Y only to find out later that he didn't get anywhere near that, and it seems counterproductive to worry endlessly about "what if."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

El Guerrero 2


Uncle Rico

Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

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tower912

Mocking the one who says it and means it.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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