Recruiting as of 12/15/24

[MuMark]

Did we know we were out on Amari Allen? Odd final list. https://x.com/2amariii/status/1817998032782114952?s=46&t=HLoNtkTVfvSoDEzJafqc2g

Yes we knew.......

[avid1010]

So you admit that you have no idea what anybody is paying, but you know MU can't keep pace with any of the big boys?

Rutgers is clearly paying a pretty penny for their men's basketball roster.  Why did Nigel James decide to come to MU when Rutgers was a finalist?

If Bama is going to offer 3x+ what MU can offer Cam Ward, why would Ward even include MU as a finalist?  Just stringing Shaka along?

Why has a guy like Kam Jones stuck around at MU when he could've got much more money hitting the portal?

Maybe just realize you don't know what MU can and cannot pay and see where things go.  Shaka has been competing just fine with the big boys in his 3 years here.  Until MU falls behind, maybe just enjoy it rather than being constantly worried about it.

Settle down...no one has appreciated Shaka's approach more than me.  I know MU doesn't have Alabama money.  While I love Shaka's approach, I'm not sure it can compete at a championship level, and I'm ok if it can't...not much anyone can do about it. It's an interesting conversation.  Sorry I pissed you off. 

[Jockey]

Settle down...no one has appreciated Shaka's approach more than me.  I know MU doesn't have Alabama money.  While I love Shaka's approach, I'm not sure it can compete at a championship level, and I'm ok if it can't...not much anyone can do about it. It's an interesting conversation.  Sorry I pissed you off.

How do you know that Shaka doesn't have Alabama money. Think about how many pieces the pie has to be cut in Alabama compared to MU

[BCHoopster]

If Ohio St got 20M, Alabama has to be right there.  Until the NCAA puts a cap on this, the blue bloods will dominate most sports.  Arkansas has the Waltons so money is no problem there either.

[Uncle Rico]

If Ohio St got 20M, Alabama has to be right there.  Until the NCAA puts a cap on this, the blue bloods will dominate most sports.  Arkansas has the Waltons so money is no problem there either.

Like usual, then

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

If Ohio St got 20M, Alabama has to be right there.  Until the NCAA puts a cap on this, the blue bloods will dominate most sports.  Arkansas has the Waltons so money is no problem there either.

The NCAA can't put a cap on anything.

[Jockey]

If Ohio St got 20M, Alabama has to be right there.  Until the NCAA puts a cap on this, the blue bloods will dominate most sports.  Arkansas has the Waltons so money is no problem there either.

And they spend most of that on football.

[BCHoopster]

And they spend most of that on football.

There's enough for Cal, Oats and Drew to dominate

[Uncle Rico]

There's enough for Cal, Oats and Drew to dominate

Then why hasn't Cal?  You don't think Kentucky had massive amounts to dump into hoops like Bama or Baylor?

[BCHoopster]

Then why hasn't Cal?  You don't think Kentucky had massive amounts to dump into hoops like Bama or Baylor?

Of course what ever I say you like to rip on what I say, no Kentucky does not have Walton money but Kentucky was good as well.  Cal recruiting at Arkansas has been better.

[avid1010]

How do you know that Shaka doesn't have Alabama money. Think about how many pieces the pie has to be cut in Alabama compared to MU

Talking with a former player...and common sense.  No one within arms reach of the MU program will tell you MU has Alabama money.  I hope I'm wrong...but I'd bet my house I'm not.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Talking with a former player...and common sense.  No one within arms reach of the MU program will tell you MU has Alabama money.  I hope I'm wrong...but I'd bet my house I'm not.

They'll also tell you that they have zero fear of Alabama. Marquette is very comfortable with what they have

[MU82]

There's enough for Cal, Oats and Drew to dominate

That would explain why they've combined for 4 Final Four appearances and 1 NCAA title since 2013. That's 1 fewer appearance and 2 fewer titles than Wright and Ryan combined.

Of course, almost all of that was before the NIL/portal era ... when Kentucky, Alabama and Baylor had to poach and pay players the old-fashioned way.

[swoopem]

Of course what ever I say you like to rip on what I say, no Kentucky does not have Walton money but Kentucky was good as well.  Cal recruiting at Arkansas has been better.

Kentucky had the number 1 recruiting class last year and many other years before that

[WhiteTrash]

Kentucky had the number 1 recruiting class last year and many other years before that

Correct. There is almost to room for Cal to improve his recruiting at AK vs UK. Perhaps marginally over his UK performance but not even sure about that. Cal at UK was the recruiting the gold standard.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Correct. There is almost to room for Cal to improve his recruiting at AK vs UK. Perhaps marginally over his UK performance but not even sure about that. Cal at UK was the recruiting the gold standard.

In an era where recruiting freshmen was by and large the only recruiting that took place. His portal recruiting wasn't great at UK.

And his coaching and player development has been suspect IMO.

[Uncle Rico]

In an era where recruiting freshmen was by and large the only recruiting that took place. His portal recruiting wasn't great at UK.

And his coaching and player development has been suspect IMO.

I guess it's time for the bi-monthly reminder college sports have never not had haves and have nots.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I guess it's time for the bi-monthly reminder college sports have never not had haves and have nots.

Right. As always, the schools with the most resources have an advantage. It's hardly insurmountable.

[Uncle Rico]

Right. As always, the schools with the most resources have an advantage. It's hardly insurmountable.

Marquette will never match what certain schools can do or meet the financial might of SEC or Big Ten schools.  That's a reality.  Has been for 40 years now.  Neither can UConn 🤷🏼‍♂️

[WhiteTrash]

In an era where recruiting freshmen was by and large the only recruiting that took place. His portal recruiting wasn't great at UK.

And his coaching and player development has been suspect IMO.

Agree with all of this.

But for recruiting; the only way for John to do better at AK is his recruiting meter would "have to go to 11".

[MU82]

Marquette will never match what certain schools can do or meet the financial might of SEC or Big Ten schools.  That's a reality.  Has been for 40 years now.  Neither can UConn 🤷🏼‍♂️

Exactly. Hurley could have gotten a bigger contract at Kentucky and probably several other schools. He chose to stay at UConn.

[MUbiz]

Kentucky had the number 1 recruiting class last year and many other years before that

Cal cares about sending his young men to the NBA, not about winning titles. Change my mind.

[swoopem]

Cal cares about sending his young men to the NBA, not about winning titles. Change my mind.

I don't disagree. I was commenting on the post that said he's recruiting better at Arkansas than he was at Kentucky. That's not the case. He had plenty of number 1 classes at UK...which everyone here knows

[MUbiz]

I don't disagree. I was commenting on the post that said he's recruiting better at Arkansas than he was at Kentucky. That's not the case. He had plenty of number 1 classes at UK...which everyone here knows

I agree with you. Cal is going to have a minimum of a top 5 class wherever he coaches. Question is, can he develop the talent?  He had an embarrassment of riches for 15 years at Kentucky and only won the natty one time.  The reason I said he cares more about getting guys to the NBA is because he brags about the ridiculous number of draft picks he has coached - and more power to him. Recruits want to know they can play in the league and make that second contract. To many, that means more than a natty.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree with you. Cal is going to have a minimum of a top 5 class wherever he coaches. Question is, can he develop the talent?  He had an embarrassment of riches for 15 years at Kentucky and only won the natty one time.  The reason I said he cares more about getting guys to the NBA is because he brags about the ridiculous number of draft picks he has coached - and more power to him. Recruits want to know they can play in the league and make that second contract. To many, that means more than a natty.

Almost like they have a different culture than Marquette