Pro-Am?

[muwarrior69]

Is there a Pro-Am this summer? If so, when does it start?

[IWB]

Yes, starts this weekend. Rosters & schedule will be released tomorrow.

[CoachRaymondsClass]

I suggest that you check Jim Ganzer's (IWB) website Brew City Ball for more info. Jim does a great job with this Summer BB League that can be very beneficial to players on the MU roster for their development.

http://www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?7590-Pro-Am

[pacearrow02]

Just saw that the ProAm is now NBA sanctioned?? Does this mean NBA players can participate?

[77ncaachamps]

Just saw that the ProAm is now NBA sanctioned?? Does this mean NBA players can participate?

I think that's what it means:

"playing professionally in the USA or over seas"

[CoachRaymondsClass]

More info. Some talk that Wes Mathews may be participating. Games are entertaining - recommend that you check them out if you are in Milwaukee.

http://www.iwbsports.com/RegistrationPage4.html

[mileskishnish72]

We'll check with Ganzer and see if the pro-am is a done deal.

[IWB]

We have been NBA sanctioned for two years now, need to go through that just like we go through NCAA Certification. Last year was the first year the NBA required it and we did have a few NBA players play last year.

Wes says he is in and says Novak will play with him. I know Wes will play when he can, will believe Novak when I see it!

[CoachRaymondsClass]

We'll check with Ganzer and see if the pro-am is a done deal.

This is getting "old" and not very funny. Give it up. IWB is a friend to the MU program.

[MU82]

This is getting "old" and not very funny. Give it up. IWB is a friend to the MU program.

Give it up?

OK. Done deal!

(Sgt. Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis!")

[CoachRaymondsClass]

Give it up?

OK. Done deal!

(Sgt. Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis!")

Recommend Meme, Haiku or Chuck Norris options for overdone feeble attempts at humor. Lighten up yourself - Done Deal?

[Skatastrophy]

This is getting "old" and not very funny. Give it up. IWB is a friend to the MU program.

It will never be given up. IWB ended up a joke by some of the national media guys during #shakawatch.

Like it or hate it, IWB will always be the #donedeal guy.

[brandx]

This is getting "old" and not very funny. Give it up. IWB is a friend to the MU program.

Sorry - but it is very funny.

[CoachRaymondsClass]

Shaka reneged on a verbal agreement - he is the characterless party. MU and some media types got burned. If IWB is tied to that, at least also give him due respect for founding and successfully running an ongoing Summer league that helps develop MU players, as well as others.

Scoops will always be known for 15 page attempts at sophomoric Chuck Norris humor, memes and haikus. It also sometimes provides some knowledgeable info. The constant harping about founders of other MU sites on Scoops seems petty to me. They are on the same side as MU fans. Done deal?

[bilsu]

A verbal commitment means nothing and it does not make Shaka classless. Assuming he actually made one something on the other side of the commitment could of changed.

[tower912]

IWB loves MU hoops.   He has been a part of every MU board ever and loves it so much that he started his own.  He is the ultimate insider, in ways that no one on this board is.   He got burned by Shaka.  He wasn't alone.   He is still a class act, a lover of MU hoops, and the sponsor of a really nice basketball Pro-Am.   Yup, it is easy to drop that punch line on him.   But ultimately, it says more about scoopers than it does about him. 

[Nukem2]

IWB loves MU hoops.   He has been a part of every MU board ever and loves it so much that he started his own.  He is the ultimate insider, in ways that no one on this board is.   He got burned by Shaka.  He wasn't alone.   He is still a class act, a lover of MU hoops, and the sponsor of a really nice basketball Pro-Am.   Yup, it is easy to drop that punch line on him.   But ultimately, it says more about scoopers than it does about him. 

Yup, and he is not even an alum.  He is a true friend of the program. 

[CoachRaymondsClass]

A verbal commitment means nothing and it does not make Shaka classless. Assuming he actually made one something on the other side of the commitment could of changed.

Sorry, where I come from, "your word is your bond" - that is a verbal/handshake agreement. Shaka is characterless, much more a pantywaist for letting his old lady boss him. Most deals that I have ever done were first verbally confirmed and shook on, and then the lawyers drew up the papers for signature. I highly doubt that MU changed their proposal and diminished it. I would hate to have to do business with you.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sorry, where I come from, "your word is your bond" - that is a verbal/handshake agreement. Shaka is characterless, much more a pantywaist for letting his old lady boss him. Most deals that I have ever done were first verbally confirmed and shook on, and then the lawyers drew up the papers for signature. I highly doubt that MU changed their proposal and diminished it. I would hate to have to do business with you.

Shaka agreed to terms. He never said he accepted them. There was no verbal agreement. IWB jumped the gun. As did many other in the administration.

You can lash out Shaka and try to label him as a "characterless pantywaist" but the real truth is several people jumped to conclusions and got burned. Happens to journalists all the time. You either have to jump in with shaky information to get the scoop or you wait until you have your sources confirmed. It's hard to do both when the subject was being so carefully watched by the national media. IWB and others went for the scoop. Should have waited for solid confirmation.

That being said, IWB is a great friend to the Marquette program. As a non-alum he has done more for Marquette than most alumni do in their entire lives. He is a fantastic insider and I still check his site for updates. The #donedeal label will stick with him for awhile. He made a mistake and his fans will give him crap for it. If he steers into the skid and jokes about the #donedeal incident, it will go away in a matter of months...well maybe not...as the meme tournament proved, scoopers have long memories. But it will certainly die down.

All in all, it some harmless teasing that is that natural result of a journalistic blunder.

#donedeal

[Wojo'sMojo]

IWB loves MU hoops.   He has been a part of every MU board ever and loves it so much that he started his own.  He is the ultimate insider, in ways that no one on this board is.   He got burned by Shaka.  He wasn't alone.   He is still a class act, a lover of MU hoops, and the sponsor of a really nice basketball Pro-Am.   Yup, it is easy to drop that punch line on him.   But ultimately, it says more about scoopers than it does about him. 

IWB's love for Marquette basketball is very apparent in everything he does. I admire what he has been able to accomplish. That being said, Shaka didn't burn him, he burned himself. He jumped the gun trying to be the first to get the word out. It was reckless and now he has to deal with being the brunt of the done deal jokes. I think he probably learned his lesson and won't be so quick to jump the gun next time...at least I hope so for all of our sakes.

[Lighthouse 84]

Shaka agreed to terms. He never said he accepted them. There was no verbal agreement.

He agreed to terms but didn't accept them?  He agreed but there was no verbal agreement?  Correct me if I'm wrong Batman, but if he agreed, wouldn't there be acceptance on his part?  If he agreed but there was no verbal agreement, then there was a written agreement?  Either you meant to say something else, or this is the biggest bunch of nonsense since, "It depend on what the meaning of the word 'is" is."  OR maybe he agreed to his own terms and didn't accept MU's terms and that's why there was no verbal agreement.    That must be it. 

[keefe]

Yes, starts this weekend. Rosters & schedule will be released tomorrow.

Where did you hear that??

[Boone]

The arrogant 'I am the source' comment shows he didn't learn from his mistake.

[keefe]

 He is the ultimate insider, in ways that no one on this board is.  

Sure. But let's see him fly a low level in a Warthog!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He agreed to terms but didn't accept them?  He agreed but there was no verbal agreement?  Correct me if I'm wrong Batman, but if he agreed, wouldn't there be acceptance on his part?  If he agreed but there was no verbal agreement, then there was a written agreement?  Either you meant to say something else, or this is the biggest bunch of nonsense since, "It depend on what the meaning of the word 'is" is."  OR maybe he agreed to his own terms and didn't accept MU's terms and that's why there was no verbal agreement.    That must be it. 

Agreeing on terms and accepting terms are two different things. Marquette made an offer, Shaka said if I decide to leave, these terms will be acceptable. #donedeal. Then Shaka decides he is not going to accept.

Now this oversimplifying it and there were a few more steps. But in the end, it looked like Shaka was going to be the coach, this news got leaked, it was misinterpreted by either IWB or his sources, and the #donedeal scenario occurred. Shaka did nothing wrong.