Butler Officiating

[WayOfTheWarrior]

Don't be alarmed if you think I'm blaming this one on the officials because I most certainly am not. We played like crap offensively in the second half and OT. Very disappointing.

I was listening to the radio feed and McIlvaine seemed pretty adamant about us not getting calls for elbows getting hit on three point shots and questionable defense on Jake. Just wondering if those of you who saw the game on cable thought since you actually saw it.

Marquette not getting calls on the road (or at home for that matter) is nothing new so it isn't an excuse for this team.

[GGGG]

Officials miss calls every game.  I thought they were consistent.  Burr had some "Burr moments," but nothing egregious. 

[WarriorFan]

The other 2 officials kept Burr in check for most of the game, even overruled him a couple times.  Near the end he realized he didn't get enough airtime yet so he did a couple typical Jim Burr "I need attention" calls, but they didn't affect the game.

I think he and Pete Gillen might be under the bleachers together having a private moment, though.

[GGGG]

I hope Pete Gillen's voicebox is chewed off by an angry raccoon. 

[denverMU]

Mayo was clearly fouled taking a three point shot with 10 or 12 seconds to play and the refs missed it.  Could have made three to win. 

[ecompt]

Mayo was clearly fouled taking a three point shot with 10 or 12 seconds to play and the refs missed it.  Could have made three to win. 

maybe, but refs had nothing to do with this. Scoring nine points in the final 15 minutes is disgraceful.

[77ncaachamps]

Buzz said T on Jamil was a bad call.

[denverMU]

maybe, but refs had nothing to do with this. Scoring nine points in the final 15 minutes is disgraceful.

Not maybe, he clearly hit him on the elbow, the ball was about 5 feet short of the rim and then the blind refs say the ball was tipped.

[CTWarrior]

maybe, but refs had nothing to do with this. Scoring nine points in the final 15 minutes is disgraceful.

5 points in 11 1/2 minutes in one stretch against a terrible defensive team.  Inexcusable.

[ecompt]

Not maybe, he clearly hit him on the elbow, the ball was about 5 feet short of the rim and then the blind refs say the ball was tipped.

point is, we should have been up by 15 at that point. And Mayo didn't deserve a call because he had played with his head up his ass the entire game.

[denverMU]

point is, we should have been up by 15 at that point. And Mayo didn't deserve a call because he had played with his head up his ass the entire game.

I never understand this kind of thought process.  Whether we should have been or not we weren't.  Fouls are not "deserved", they are fouls or not fouls.  He was clearly fouled taking a three point shot with less tan 15 seconds to play.  Call the foul and let the players decide the outcome of the game.

[Atticus]

Buzz said T on Jamil was a bad call.

Wow. Maybe he should watch the replay.

[ecompt]

I never understand this kind of thought process.  Whether we should have been or not we weren't.  Fouls are not "deserved", they are fouls or not fouls.  He was clearly fouled taking a three point shot with less tan 15 seconds to play.  Call the foul and let the players decide the outcome of the game.

Totally understand your thinking. But MU never should have put itself in that situation. The last 15 minutes, from the coaching to the idiotic decisions on the court, was as bad as it gets.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Mayo was definitely fouled but you should never play in a way which allows one missed call to determine the outcome

[We R Final Four]

maybe, but refs had nothing to do with this.

???
Mayo gets hit on the shooting arm on a three point shot that would have given us the lead late, but the refs had nothing to do with it.  Interesting.

Lets blame it on Mayo cuz he didnt play that well up to that point and didnt DESERVE it!

[forgetful]

Don't be alarmed if you think I'm blaming this one on the officials because I most certainly am not. We played like crap offensively in the second half and OT. Very disappointing.

I was listening to the radio feed and McIlvaine seemed pretty adamant about us not getting calls for elbows getting hit on three point shots and questionable defense on Jake. Just wondering if those of you who saw the game on cable thought since you actually saw it.

Marquette not getting calls on the road (or at home for that matter) is nothing new so it isn't an excuse for this team.

I think this was a problem for MU.  I agree with Sultan, it was called consistently, but they blatantly ignored the new rule emphasis.  Butler was grabbing and holding Jake (and Mayo) away from the ball and around picks and then putting two hands on them as the defender. 

They didn't call it either way, but it certainly seemed that after the rules being emphasized for every game so far that they went out the window and it bothered MU.  We had adjusted to the new rules and played defense according to those new rules.  Butler seemed to know it wouldn't be emphasized and took advantage to put us off rhythm.

In the end we adjusted poorly and it cost us.  Regardless, you can't win games if you can't hit open shots and we didn't do that today.

[hdog1017]

Pete Gillen praised Jim Burr at least three times as being one of the best referees in the country.  Obviously Pete is either insane or on something. 

[ecompt]

???
Mayo gets hit on the shooting arm on a three point shot that would have given us the lead late, but the refs had nothing to do with it.  Interesting.

Lets blame it on Mayo cuz he didnt play that well up to that point and didnt DESERVE it!

Point taken. But expecting the refs to rescue us on the road after we absolutely stunk on offense for 15 minutes is foolish. Refs let them play at both ends, and except for Burr being Burr a few times, refs did NOT cost us the game. They gave Jake two FTs after the Mayo non-call. Could they have called that foul? Sure. And maybe -- MAYBE -- Todd hits all three FTs. But we didn't deserve to win.  

[Texas Western]

Never blame the officials, they are the same for both teams. The team and coach need to look in the mirror first .

[Gato78]

Why give officials a pass? They screwed up and it possibly cost us. The Todd three was a foul--they blew it. It possibly meant the game. Why is that ok? We stunk but had chance to win and an officials incorrect call made a big difference. Not only was it a big miss but it should have been Butler's ball and it was reviewable--under two minutes. They blew that call at every level. It possibly cost us the game. Why in the world do people say officials don't cost teams the game? Of course they do. Hell, if we had a twenty point lead it doesn't matter but it was a tight game. I have always thought that people who let the refs off the hook were never athletes. You lose a tight game due to a bad call, damn right it was an officials call. You play your ass off and a tough call takes you out. Hell yeah, officials can cause a loss.

[We R Final Four]

Hitting a shooter's arm late in the game is a foul that should be called--regardless if you feel that MU played poorly up to that point in time. They are unrelated events.

Your logic is flawed.......and you sound like my Dad who doesn't watch basketball.

[ecompt]

Hitting a shooter's arm late in the game is a foul that should be called--regardless if you feel that MU played poorly up to that point in time. They are unrelated events.

Your logic is flawed.......and you sound like my Dad who doesn't watch basketball.

I can pretty much guarantee that I have watched more games than you and your Dad, going back to watching MU in the NIT in 1967.

[4everwarriors]

Great tourney E.C. Warriors took down some heavies. Too bad Clyde was a load.

[ecompt]

Great tourney E.C. Warriors took down some heavies. Too bad Clyde was a load.

Clyde was unbelievable. I was at the semifinals when Marquette and SIU advanced.

[4everwarriors]

Great memories. I was at the Garden to witness Pistol Pete when he met defeat and for the Finals vs. Sweet Lou a couple of days later. One of many classic MU photos was Dean puttin' the MVP trophy on his head in his home town.