Ciroc Vodka

[Goose]

4ever

You might not be for everyone, but you make me laugh. Keep it up, my friend!

[keefe]

Ha thanks I'm not sad about it. I like drinking alone

The gracious license of self-commiseration...

[keefe]

beware that Islays are typically very peaty

Precisely the point of an Islay. The smoky richness tinged with salt air takes one back to that simple place we all wish to rather be...

Glenlivet it has castles three,
Drumin, Blairfindy and Deskie,
And also one distillery,
More famous than the castles three

[JustinLewisFanClubPres]

Precisely the point of an Islay. The smoky richness tinged with salt air takes one back to that simple place we all wish to rather be...

I agree but some people prefer otherwise.

I'd also recommend that people that are into drinking liquor check out a nice bottle of Mezcal at some time. I'd recommend any of Del Maguey's products. It's kind of like tequila that drinks like scotch. 

[WellsstreetWanderer]

    WHISKEY
                   
                    In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a
member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position
on whiskey.  What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political
Archives of Texas):
                   
                    "If you mean whiskey, the devil's
brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence,
dethrones reason, destroys the home,creates misery and poverty, yea,
literally takes the bread from the  mouths of little children;  if you mean
that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of
righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame,
despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it
with every fiber of my being.
                   
                    However, if by whiskey you mean the
lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the
liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in
their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes;  if you mean
Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step
of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning;


if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to
forget life's great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow;  if you mean that
drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of
dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled
children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to
build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges
in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of
it.
                   
                    This is my position, and as always,
I refuse to compromise on matters of principle."




















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[keefe]

I agree but some people prefer otherwise.

I'd also recommend that people that are into drinking liquor check out a nice bottle of Mezcal at some time. I'd recommend any of Del Maguey's products. It's kind of like tequila that drinks like scotch. 

I love the peaty bite of an Islay but you are right in that it is not for the faint of palate. But a fine Combat Gar demands nothing less than a sturdy Islay to deliver an exquisite sensory excursion.

If you have not followed Puro Maduro you need to hear his insights on the pairing of single malt and gar. Pure genius.

http://puromaduro.com/home.html

[keefe]

    WHISKEY
                   
                    In 1952, Armon M. Sweat, Jr., a
member of the Texas House of Representatives, was asked about his position
on whiskey.  What follows is his exact answer (taken from the Political
Archives of Texas):
                   
                    "If you mean whiskey, the devil's
brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence,
dethrones reason, destroys the home,creates misery and poverty, yea,
literally takes the bread from the  mouths of little children;  if you mean
that evil drink that topples Christian men and women from the pinnacles of
righteous and gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, shame,
despair, helplessness, and hopelessness, then, my friend, I am opposed to it
with every fiber of my being.
                   
                    However, if by whiskey you mean the
lubricant of conversation, the philosophic juice, the elixir of life, the
liquid that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in
their hearts and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes;  if you mean
Christmas cheer, the stimulating sip that puts a little spring in the step
of an elderly gentleman on a frosty morning;


if you mean that drink that enables man to magnify his joy, and to
forget life's great tragedies and heartbreaks and sorrow;  if you mean that
drink the sale of which pours into Texas treasuries untold millions of
dollars each year, that provides tender care for our little crippled
children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitifully aged and infirm, to
build the finest highways, hospitals, universities, and community colleges
in this nation, then my friend, I am absolutely, unequivocally in favor of
it.
                   
                    This is my position, and as always,
I refuse to compromise on matters of principle."




















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How did this man not achieve higher office??

[LloydMooresLegs]

If you ever get a chance do yourself a favor and try Hendrick's. As elegant as the rustle of silk.

+1,000

[StillAWarrior]

This thread has got me thinking that I've got to go back and try single malts again.  I like and drink various fairly inexpensive blends.  Dewars is readily available and inexpensive.  Pretty much whenever I go someplace with an open bar, they have Dewars and I'm happy to drink that for free.

My very limited experience with single malts was a long time ago and was before I started drinking blended scotch.  Years ago, I was out with a friend and he bought me a single malt, and I didn't care for it.  Also years ago, I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich and wasn't a big fan.  Based on those early experiences, I just stuck with blends once I started drinking scotch about ten years later.  This thread has me wanting to revisit that.  Obviously, an easy place to start is with the bottle of Glenfiddich in my cabinet (if it was 12 when I got it, it's probably nearly 30 now...and yes, I know that is not how it works).  I suppose the Macallan 12 would be another good one to try.  From those of you who know your single malts, assuming I don't enjoy the Glenfiddich, is there something you would recommend.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

  Keef's taste runs to the smokey, peaty Islay Scotches . while I do like Lagavulin and have sampled many,  I have gotten my friends who were Johnny Walker drinkers to switch to The Macallan 12. Its a reasonable price for a glass( $12) in most bars I attend. that might be the way to start.

[Benny B]

The gracious license of self-commiseration...

Cut Merissa some slack... it takes an incredibly intelligent person to drink alone.  Little known math theorem: when your bottle of Lagavulin is the numerator and the number of friends are the denominator, the greatest possible outcome is to get rid of your friends.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Ledaig is a decent inexpensive very peaty single malt for those that like them that way

[keefe]

This thread has got me thinking that I've got to go back and try single malts again.  I like and drink various fairly inexpensive blends.  Dewars is readily available and inexpensive.  Pretty much whenever I go someplace with an open bar, they have Dewars and I'm happy to drink that for free.

My very limited experience with single malts was a long time ago and was before I started drinking blended scotch.  Years ago, I was out with a friend and he bought me a single malt, and I didn't care for it.  Also years ago, I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich and wasn't a big fan.  Based on those early experiences, I just stuck with blends once I started drinking scotch about ten years later.  This thread has me wanting to revisit that.  Obviously, an easy place to start is with the bottle of Glenfiddich in my cabinet (if it was 12 when I got it, it's probably nearly 30 now...and yes, I know that is not how it works).  I suppose the Macallan 12 would be another good one to try.  From those of you who know your single malts, assuming I don't enjoy the Glenfiddich, is there something you would recommend.

As elephant said I do prefer the bolder palate of the Islays which might not be the best transition for a blended whiskey drinker. I have belonged to a few single malt tasting clubs over the years (the best being the Passport Club at the Raffles in Singapore) and have kept my notes.

A good rule of thumb is the higher the elevation of distillation the sweeter the pour and more fruit on the nose. I can recommend a few bottles that might give you an overview of the introductory bounty without breaking the bank. I'll be honest - I get my single malts at the McChord AFB Class VI store where there is no excise so my scotch is less than half the Seattle retail price but the prices I list here are double my duty free cost.


Glenmorangie 10

Entry level scotch at moderate price ($30's)

Nose: Heavy citrus fruit with honey and vanilla overtones. Buttery side similar to Tate & Lyle's Treacle. Overall solid delivery.

Palate: Somewhat weak though even delivery. Strong fruit (apple, citrus) but too much floral. Dry oak very evident.

Finish: Short but solid. Warming with spicy palate. Apple, cardamom, nutmeg.


Oban 14

Classic Western Highlands scotch. One of the oldest distillers in Scotland. A must try for any scotch drinker. Montilla casked. Solid offering at a great price ($50's)

Nose: Rich, complex, diverse. Strong malt opening with sweet, rich fruit gives way to ocean – brine, seaweed, tarry rope, Manzanilla. Hints of cut hay and wood smoke. 

Palate: Very thick, rich, and full palate. Solid attack where sweetness gives way to smoky, savory, spice. Smoky hints with chocolate. Oak conveys cereal and malt.

Finish: Nicely elongated with fruit and chocolate. Closes well with dry oak and a hint peat.


Dalwhinnie 15

Superb Central Highlands scotch that represents the breed rather well. One of the more ubiquitous single malts and also one of the best values ($50's.)


Nose: One of the most expressive single malts out there. Opens with a light maltiness which gives way to fruit and honey. Faintly phenolic with light peat.

Palate: Incredibly smooth. Flavor develops slowly with increasing richness and complexity. Very aromatic. Malt, honey, and spring heather give way to mown hay and peat.

Finish: Nice closing statement with dry oak and cut grass.

[The Lens]

We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.

[keefe]

We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.

One man's corn is another man's barley

[StillAWarrior]

Work holiday party last night...tried the Macallan 12...very nice.  Must continue exploration...

[Coleman]

Bought and drank Glenfiddich 12 last night. It was pleasant. I wouldn't say its my favorite drink, but I enjoyed it. I had most of it neat, and added a drop of water a little past halfway through. The flavor became much more complex after adding water.

I think I need to add a Highlands and Islay to my collection. I figured it would be good to keep at least one of each region in my liquor cabinet. Gonna go with one of the ones Keefe has notes on.

Also, this is fun: http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/scotch-pronunciation-guide-5836909

[JWags85]

We're in America; drink some bourbon.  And never mix; that's where the hangover comes in.

Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.

[Coleman]

Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.

Yup. The caffeine is a bitch. The alcohol is already dehydrating the crap out of you.

[real chili 83]

Eh depends, if you just have a few splashes of ginger ale, you'll be fine come morning, provided you're drinking a decent to good bourbon.  A night of bourbon and cokes however, and you'll feel like a bag of ass.  I usually switch to bourbon and water mid way through the night, and my body thanks me for it.

In the upper midwest, you can find an intriguing brand of Irish Whiskey called 2 Gingers.  Worth giving it a try. 

http://www.2gingerswhiskey.com/

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Tried Redbreast recently. It is an Irish with a bit of honey to it. Too sweet for my taste but interesting.

[keefe]

Bought and drank Glenfiddich 12 last night. It was pleasant. I wouldn't say its my favorite drink, but I enjoyed it. I had most of it neat, and added a drop of water a little past halfway through. The flavor became much more complex after adding water.

I think I need to add a Highlands and Islay to my collection. I figured it would be good to keep at least one of each region in my liquor cabinet. Gonna go with one of the ones Keefe has notes on.

Also, this is fun: http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/scotch-pronunciation-guide-5836909

The Brian Cox Esquire piece is fantastic. His favorite is Lagavulin, "the cognac of whiskies...works like a depth charge...Pow!" One of the more piquant articulations of a great Islay.

Glenfiddich or Glenlivet are probably the better portals into single malts because of their ubiquity you can compare notes with most anyone. But the whole point of the cult is to explore the depth and breadth of the offering. It is one of life's more seductive cavalcades.

"The light music of whiskey falling into a glass - an agreeable interlude."
- James Joyce

[Coleman]

Mods..can we name this the official Scoop liquor thread? Like we have a beer thread?

[keefe]

Tried Redbreast recently. It is an Irish with a bit of honey to it. Too sweet for my taste but interesting.

I don't fancy sweet drinks but Drambuie is infused with heather honey. A superb ending to any meal.

[real chili 83]

I don't fancy sweet drinks but Drambuie is infused with heather honey. A superb ending to any meal.

Grand Marinier for me.