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GGGG

Why?

Some of these programs, like BC, really have outlandish expectations.

LastWarrior

Quote from: Ready2Fly on April 07, 2010, 02:18:43 PM
Paging Carson Desrosiers

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=61203
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4043873

SOLD!!

Anybody know if he ever visited back in September?  Sounds like we were one of his three finalists (Wake, ASU, & MU).

"Carson Desrosiers will suit up for coach Dino Gaudio at Wake Forest, the Eagle-Tribune reports.

The Demon Deacons beat out Arizona State and Marquette for the services of the Eagle-Tribune's 2009 Basketball MVP.

ESPN.com Recruiting Coordinator Reggie Rankin had this to say about Desrosiers' commitment.

"He's a versatile power forward who will bring a tremendous skill set to Wake next fall. He fits perfectly in the Deacons' up-and-down system because he can run the floor well and also knock down jumpshots from the perimeter.

Desrosiers' combination of size and skill will create match-up problems for Wake opponents.

"Carson is a match-up nightmare for defenders," added Rankin. "He can draw less athletic centers away from the basket or post up smaller power forwards down on the block.

"He's skilled enough to knock down three's and will thrive as a pick-n-pop forward for Wake Forest. He's also a skilled passer for a big man and has a really high basketball I.Q.

"I really like this get for (head) Coach (Dino) Guadio) and his staff," he said."
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 07, 2010, 02:25:54 PM
Why?

Some of these programs, like BC, really have outlandish expectations.

I don't claim to have any inside information whatsoever, but I'd guess that there was something other than outlandish expectations that led to Dino's firing. I'm not suggesting violations or anything, perhaps just differences of opinion with the AD.

GGGG

Desrosiers already signed his LOI so he would have to ask out or transfer.

NCMUFan

My Sunday School Teacher and Brother In Law are Wake Forest graduates and big sports fans of Wake Forest.  I will have to get the scoop from them.  Maybe it had to do with Wakes meltdown during the later part of the year.

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LastWarrior

#8
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 07, 2010, 02:35:30 PM
Desrosiers already signed his LOI so he would have to ask out or transfer.

Yeah... we've never had that problem before?  see Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, etc.  Point being if the coach leaves, he'll get out of his loi.
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

GGGG

Quote from: LastWarrior on April 07, 2010, 02:47:45 PM
Yeah... we've never had that problem before?  see Tyshawn Taylor, Nick Williams, etc.


Not saying it's impossible, just making sure that everyone knows the situation.

GOMU1104

I could be wrong, but I belive CD visited Wake and ASU, and then cancelled his visit to MU...eventually choosing Wake.

From all accounts, hes not an inside banger, but rather likes to float on the perimeter. I would take him though...especially over Cothron.

bma725

Quote from: Ready2Fly on April 07, 2010, 02:18:43 PM
Paging Carson Desrosiers

Remember, part of the reason he chose Wake Forest was because they had enough big men on the roster to allow him to be a perimeter player, whereas both MU and ASU wanted him to play inside.  Firing Gaudio doesn't change the fact that he'd still be an inside player at MU, and that's not what he wants to do.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: bma725 on April 07, 2010, 03:07:46 PM
Remember, part of the reason he chose Wake Forest was because they had enough big men on the roster to allow him to be a perimeter player, whereas both MU and ASU wanted him to play inside.  Firing Gaudio doesn't change the fact that he'd still be an inside player at MU, and that's not what he wants to do.

I didn't hear that when he signed.  It makes sense though. 

Isn't he too tall to play center at Marquette?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

#13
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on April 07, 2010, 02:46:37 PM
This doesn't smell right.

Report is he was the fall guy when an attempt to clone Jeff Teague went wrong.

This guy has got to be one of the better coaches Wake has ever had.  I have to agree with you that there has to be something as yet unknown going on here.  If this is performance related, then Sultan is right on about the expectations being way out of whack!

After everyone (it seems like) was saying DePaul waited too long, maybe it will turn out that they were just a little too quick to make a hire.  This guy's recruiting was top notch.  Of course, he was at Wake then.  
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

NCMUFan

Here is what my friend from Wake says:

Have been away from the desk all day and don't know anything.  Probably has to do with the fact that he won only one NCAA tourney game in 3 years in spite of having a lot of talent.  He was the only possible hire the AD could make after Prosser's death in summer 07, but would never have been hired under normal circumstances.  He was probably on a short leash.

The Lens

Quote from: NCMUFan on April 07, 2010, 03:34:09 PM
Here is what my friend from Wake says:

Have been away from the desk all day and don't know anything.  Probably has to do with the fact that he won only one NCAA tourney game in 3 years in spite of having a lot of talent.  He was the only possible hire the AD could make after Prosser's death in summer 07, but would never have been hired under normal circumstances.  He was probably on a short leash.

Considering he was fired two days after the Final Four, I bet the AD has his man and used the past week to make sure he had a better replacement.
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downtown85

Quote from: bma725 on April 07, 2010, 03:07:46 PM
Remember, part of the reason he chose Wake Forest was because they had enough big men on the roster to allow him to be a perimeter player, whereas both MU and ASU wanted him to play inside.  Firing Gaudio doesn't change the fact that he'd still be an inside player at MU, and that's not what he wants to do.

Are you talking offense or defense/rebounding?  I am just thinking that if he could fill Lazar's role in Buzz's offensive scheme, it would meet his goals. Lazar posted up but wasn't stuck in the paint.  He often had a field day on the perimeter because he was often guarded by the opposing center.  On defense, your right I don't see CD guarding the perimeter at MU.  He will be guarding the other teams post player and rebounding.  

I think that MU's offense (this year) is ideally suited to a center who wants to be able to face up and play the perimeter.  

I haven't seen CD's game. Is he more like a Steve Novak type or a Greg Monroe type?

bma725

Quote from: downtown85 on April 07, 2010, 03:40:39 PM
Are you talking offense or defense/rebounding?  I am just thinking that if he could fill Lazar's role in Buzz's offensive scheme, it would meet his goals. Lazar posted up but wasn't stuck in the paint.  He often had a field day on the perimeter because he was often guarded by the opposing center.  On defense, your right I don't see CD guarding the perimeter at MU.  He will be guarding the other teams post player and rebounding. 

I think that MU's offense (this year) is ideally suited to a center who wants to be able to face up and play the perimeter. 

I haven't seen CD's game. Is he more like a Steve Novak type or a Greg Monroe type?

Lazar had that role because of the unique skills he has.  In the offense Buzz would like to run, the Self/Gillispie offense, if you only have one big he's a post guy, and that's what Desrosiers would likely have to be here.  He sees himself as more of a 3, despite not really having the skills for it yet.  Right now, he's not a Steve Novak type, but that's what he likely wants to be.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Lens on April 07, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
Considering he was fired two days after the Final Four, I bet the AD has his man and used the past week to make sure he had a better replacement.

I can't wait to find out who the "miracle man" is.

Marquette should so fire Buzz's ass if he doesn't land Tokoto.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MUBurrow

yeah wow, I don't know much about the recruit, but really shocking regarding Gaudio.  Something is fishy.  From all I had ever heard, Gaudio was a great guy. That sort of feeds into the belief that he and the AD might never have been on the same page after Prosser's death?

Either way, honest question - is DePaul kicking itself right now? It seems that off the court they got a question mark in that that Purnell doesn't graduate his players while now Dino Gaudio is unemployed.  I guess I don't know much about Gaudio other than good things I had heard early in his tenure.

MarkMiller

Nobody has any idea how Carson Desrosiers would fit in at Marquette next season. Is he a 3? Is he a 4? Is he a 5? Who has actually watched him and knows his skill set?

Truth of the matter is Buzz Williams would find a way to maximize Desrosiers talent and make them mesh with the returning players. Whether that be at the 3 or 4 or 5 ... nobody really knows. The one thing that is known is that Buzz knows how to maximize talent.

Dawson Rental

Gaudio has signed 5 players for next year, and four are ranked in the top 100. 

Wake Forest: "Hey thanks, see ya."
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Spotcheck Billy

#22
I will admit to being a Deacon fan (used to live there when Mugsy attended). I was hoping Dino would get the axe. Look at last year, they started 16-0, were #1 (for 1 week) and got blown out in the NCAA by Cleveland State.
This year, started strong again only to fade quickly near the end of conference play. When they beat TX I was afraid Dino would keep his job. He's a great recruiter and did something Prosser never did: got them to play some defense but when Aminu and others are completely ineffective during those bad stretches I think the coach carries some of that responsibility.

Basically, like Buzz, he was given a chance to show what he might be able to do as a head coach but Gaudio really wasn't panning out.

Wellman, the AD has also stated that it really comes down to post season exposure because this earns more $$ and national exposure for the school.

JWags85

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 07, 2010, 03:45:55 PM

Marquette should so fire Buzz's ass if he doesn't land Tokoto.

This made me laugh

wadefan#1

Those guys at Wake Forest must be crazy he has had some pretty good recruiting class.