1972 MU vs. South Carolina

[groove]

Anyone know if there is any video online of  the 1972 MU-South Carolina game which featured a brawl between the two teams. I think Bob Lackey was involved and at one point a state trooper charged the bench and Larry McNeil picked up a chair.

[WarriorHal]

The game was televised, so some video might exist. I do recall reading that Lackey and Tom Riker battled for a rebound, Lackey threw an elbow and Riker responded with a punch. That got it started.

MU's front court was Lackey, Jim Chones and Larry McNeill. And Maurice Lucas was a freshman waiting in the wings.

[Nukem2]

Imagine if freshman were eligible that year...!!!

[groove]

I just found this link in the SIVault. Great SI article about the game.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085704/index.htm

And if you click on the view issue link you can see the photo from the game and MU's unis. It's the same issue that covers the Bucks snapping the Lakers 33 game winning streak.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

This is great!! Thanks for posting.

I didn't know the Marquette "WARRIORS" existed before Tom Crean came along.

[oldwarrior81]

this is Jim Chones accounting of the game:

Chones: For starters, the two coaches, Al and Frank McGuire, didn't like each other very much. You know what it is like when two Irish guys don't like each other, they don't hold back. As for the game, we didn't get a call for probably three quarters. They also had a 6-11 left hander who was just the enforcer in the ACC. I think his name was Riker or something. The entire South Carolina team just beat up other teams. Dean Smith even petitioned the league to put an end to it. So they had a huge team. They were very skilled too. There were cheap shots flying during the game like the kind that we would only see on the playground.

I will never forget it. Bob Lackey was on the free throw line and Riker took the ball and threw it at Lackey after he made his first free throw. Immediately after that, Lackey looked at Al and Al didn't move. He was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. We all knew what that meant. Lackey picked the ball up and drilled Riker in the face. All of a sudden, there were people all over the floor and the two teams were fighting.

In the middle of the fight, Danny Traylor looks at me and was probably thinking, "He looks pretty skinny, I'll go after him." I actually got the guy pretty good. I popped him right in the chin actually. Soon after that, a security guard from the arena peeled me off of him. This guard opened his jacket and pulled out a gun on me and then, I knew the fight was over. But we whipped the (junk) out of them. The fans kept calling us racial names because we were mostly black and they didn't have any black players. That was the times, you know? Through all of this, Al was still sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. Al finally got up and took all of us off of the floor and into the locker room. They already had all of our things packed in our bags and instead of staying over night, they told us we were

[nyg]

Imagine what 1972-75 would have been.  Chones left for NBA and frontline would have been Chones, McNeill and Lucas.  Next year McNeil left, frontline would have been McNeil, Lucas and Bo Eliis. With backcourts of Allie McGuire, Marcus Washington and then Lloyd Walton and Earl Tatum.

[Cooby Snacks]

Anyone else struck by the quality of the writing in this?  Sports Illustrated has fallen a long way IMO.  It's still the best sports magazine, but not to the extent it once was.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Curry Kirkpatrick was a legend for them. Used to do TV work, too.

He was a bit of a dandy, but a good writer!

[groove]

Anyone else struck by the quality of the writing in this?  Sports Illustrated has fallen a long way IMO.  It's still the best sports magazine, but not to the extent it once was.

Yeah I noticed also. Check out some more back issues from the early 70s and late 60s and it's the same thing. High quality writing. Also, they seemed to focus more on the games and events and less on the hype. Another victim of ESPN mentality.

[ecompt]

I remember that game well. It was a late Sunday afternoon, and it almost turned into a race riot. Tom Riker was the big South Carolina goon and it really looked like the two teams would start hitting each other with haymakers.  It was as dangerous a scene as I can ever remember at a MU game.

[romey]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

[groove]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

I love this part: "In the past five years the Warriors of Marquette have won 21, 23, 24, 26 and 28 games while reaching the NCAA Mideast Regional three times and the NIT finals twice. It is a record surpassed during that time only by UCLA and North Carolina and one that must surely stand alone in the annals of Jesuit five-year plans."

And a great color photo of McNeil and Chones in the famous bumblebee uniforms

[romey]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

I love this part: "In the past five years the Warriors of Marquette have won 21, 23, 24, 26 and 28 games while reaching the NCAA Mideast Regional three times and the NIT finals twice. It is a record surpassed during that time only by UCLA and North Carolina and one that must surely stand alone in the annals of Jesuit five-year plans."

Not to mention, winning 20 wins back then meant something because you typically didn't play 30 + games a year.

[romey]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

I love this part: "In the past five years the Warriors of Marquette have won 21, 23, 24, 26 and 28 games while reaching the NCAA Mideast Regional three times and the NIT finals twice. It is a record surpassed during that time only by UCLA and North Carolina and one that must surely stand alone in the annals of Jesuit five-year plans."

UCLA, UNC and MU - I would say that made us an "elite program" way back then

[groove]

I remember that game well. It was a late Sunday afternoon, and it almost turned into a race riot. Tom Riker was the big South Carolina goon and it really looked like the two teams would start hitting each other with haymakers.  It was as dangerous a scene as I can ever remember at a MU game.

The infamous Minnesota-Ohio State brawl took place just a few weeks later

[nyg]

We were absolutely elite back then, our teams were perfect blend of talent ,character and opposing teams at times were intimidated by us. It was different time.  Bring back the bumblebees, don't know why they made them illegal. 

[WarriorHal]

I remember that game well. It was a late Sunday afternoon, and it almost turned into a race riot. Tom Riker was the big South Carolina goon and it really looked like the two teams would start hitting each other with haymakers.  It was as dangerous a scene as I can ever remember at a MU game.

The infamous Minnesota-Ohio State brawl took place just a few weeks later

Somewhere in the SI vault is the story about that game. It mentions that the goons on Minnesota that intentionally singled out and attacked Luke Witte and the other white Ohio St. players saw the MU-S. Carolina game on TV a few weeks earlier.

[groove]

There is a video of the Minnesota-Ohio St brawl on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnCY0CZ1pE

What a cheap shot - faking like you are helping a guy up, only to knee him in the groin. And then a playing coming and stomping on Witte's head. Dave Winfield was one of the Minnesota players.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

This is great!! Thanks for posting.

I didn't know the Marquette "WARRIORS" existed before Tom Crean came along.

Well played.

You managed to beat 2 dead horses.

We get it. You hate the golden eagles and tom crean.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

This is great!! Thanks for posting.

I didn't know the Marquette "WARRIORS" existed before Tom Crean came along.

Well played.

You managed to beat 2 dead horses.

We get it. You hate the golden eagles and tom crean.

Do you understand that your mindless replies to my posts grind most threads to a screeching halt?

Probably not.

[Marquette_g]

Do you realize that most people new to MUScoop think your posts are meaningless as  you offer no real opinions only "Tom Crean sucks" and "I wish we could go back to the 70s"?

[romey]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

I love this part: "In the past five years the Warriors of Marquette have won 21, 23, 24, 26 and 28 games while reaching the NCAA Mideast Regional three times and the NIT finals twice. It is a record surpassed during that time only by UCLA and North Carolina and one that must surely stand alone in the annals of Jesuit five-year plans."

And a great color photo of McNeil and Chones in the famous bumblebee uniforms

Hey, where do you see the photos on these archived articles?  I have read the entire article and scrolled up and down and looked at all the icons that I thought would open the photos, but to no avail?

[groove]

Reading the article, made me long for the days of MU's big men.  Take a look at this article - long, but great look into Al's style, and the days when declaring for the draft were just beginning.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085583/1/index.htm

I love this part: "In the past five years the Warriors of Marquette have won 21, 23, 24, 26 and 28 games while reaching the NCAA Mideast Regional three times and the NIT finals twice. It is a record surpassed during that time only by UCLA and North Carolina and one that must surely stand alone in the annals of Jesuit five-year plans."

And a great color photo of McNeil and Chones in the famous bumblebee uniforms

Hey, where do you see the photos on these archived articles?  I have read the entire article and scrolled up and down and looked at all the icons that I thought would open the photos, but to no avail?

Near the top of the page. Under the headline and the writers name you have three choices, view cover, read all articles or view this issue. If you pick view this issue a viewer pops up and you can page through the entire issue, ads and all.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

This is great!! Thanks for posting.

I didn't know the Marquette "WARRIORS" existed before Tom Crean came along.

Well played.

You managed to beat 2 dead horses.

We get it. You hate the golden eagles and tom crean.

Do you understand that your mindless replies to my posts grind most threads to a screeching halt?

Probably not.

You bring up a good point, actually.

You constantly tell everybody you don't like Crean or the nickname, but I constantly call you out for it.

So basically, I'm just b*tching about your b*itching again... which I guess is ironic.

Your defense would be something like: "If MU changed the name back to "warriors" and hired a good coach (or at least one you deem "good"), then I wouldn't have to bitch."

My defense is that "I wouldn't have to call you out if you didn't whine so bad about EVERYTHING and repeat yourself all of the time."

Anyways, I know you hate Crean... so it'll be interesting to watch you reaction to whoever is hired.

My prediction: You bitch initially and call out the BOT and MU for not doing a hard enough search to come up with a great candidate like you want.

Next: You learn something about the coach that you like, and you applaud him while still taking some parting shots at Crean

Still Next: The new coach with eventually do something with the color gold or the eagle mascot that you hate so much... and then you will starting bitching about him just like with Crean. 

Lastly: I will start bitching at you again for whining about EVERYTHING, and you will bitch at me for calling you out all of the time.

PS I apologize for the thread hi-jack. I really do love old MU stories and highlights. I have nothing against the 70's... even though I don't still live in them.