Ryder Cup

[Lighthouse 84]

That was a destruction.  I felt the US should win and win comfortably

Rico, hate to call you out, but there are multiple posts from you saying the US would lose easily.

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  Rico, hate to call you out, but there are multiple posts from you saying the US would lose easily.

I think he said Euro 26 and USA 2 in jest, but okay.

Rico also nailed Strick's strategy of going younger, which was absolutely the key when the majority here were pulling for Phil, Reed and Kuchar (wtf?).

[cheebs09]

I think he said Euro 26 and USA 2 in jest, but okay.

Rico also nailed Strick's strategy of going younger, which was absolutely the key when the majority here were pulling for Phil, Reed and Kuchar (wtf?).

It's going to be very interesting to see the impact on team chemistry if Reed qualified for 2023. Not sure how you could make him a captain's pick based on all the comments about how much fun the guys had together.

[Uncle Rico]

It's going to be very interesting to see the impact on team chemistry if Reed qualified for 2023. Not sure how you could make him a captain's pick based on all the comments about how much fun the guys had together.

He'll never be a captain's pick as long as JT, Cantlay, Xander, Brooks and Spieth are the core of the team

[Uncle Rico]

It is interesting that it sounds like this was the last big event that'll be played at Whistling Straits for the foreseeable future.  The PGA is out after this event as they can't host a PGA in May there and most Ryder Cup dates are booked out.

Geoff Shackleford notes in his Ryder Cup review (https://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2021/9/27/quadrilateral-champions-cutmakers-and-point-missers-from-the-43rd-ryder-cup) that the USGA is in no hurry to return as well.

[cheebs09]

It is interesting that it sounds like this was the last big event that'll be played at Whistling Straits for the foreseeable future.  The PGA is out after this event as they can't host a PGA in May there and most Ryder Cup dates are booked out.

Geoff Shackleford notes in his Ryder Cup review (https://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2021/9/27/quadrilateral-champions-cutmakers-and-point-missers-from-the-43rd-ryder-cup) that the USGA is in no hurry to return as well.

I was trying to think of an event they could host in the future. Maybe a BMW Championship in the future?

[Uncle Rico]

I was trying to think of an event they could host in the future. Maybe a BMW Championship in the future?

That has crossed my mind. 

[MuggsyB]

I haven't played Sand Valley.   Is it potentially a PGA tournament course?

[Uncle Rico]

I haven't played Sand Valley.   Is it potentially a PGA tournament course?

No

[WarriorFan]

I haven't played Sand Valley.   Is it potentially a PGA tournament course?

I agree...no.  There's just not enough lodging within 100 miles to support the crowds.  The course might be good enough, but the infrastructure prevents it.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree...no.  There's just not enough lodging within 100 miles to support the crowds.  The course might be good enough, but the infrastructure prevents it.

The ownership group isn't interested in bringing events like that to its properties.  They had the Amateur at Bandon in 2020 and that's about as far as I think they're willing to go

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I agree...no.  There's just not enough lodging within 100 miles to support the crowds.  The course might be good enough, but the infrastructure prevents it.

"Good enough" the courses are significantly better golf courses than most tour stops.

Having the required length would be more of an issue than "good enough".

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Who wants to join me for Bethpage in 2025?

That place is gonna be a madhouse

[Uncle Rico]

"Good enough" the courses are significantly better golf courses than most tour stops.

Having the required length would be more of an issue than "good enough".

Lacks infrastructure, too.  Owners simply aren't going to want grandstands and merch tents all over their property.  There is a limited amount of venues that want major events.  Oakland Hills membership has been very lukewarm about overtures from the USGA and PGA.  I've heard the same about Medinah as well, though, I don't think the courses there can challenge the pro game anymore

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Lacks infrastructure, too.  Owners simply aren't going to want grandstands and merch tents all over their property.  There is a limited amount of venues that want major events.  Oakland Hills membership has been very lukewarm about overtures from the USGA and PGA.  I've heard the same about Medinah as well, though, I don't think the courses there can challenge the pro game anymore

Yep, I was just taking offense to the courses being good enough.

[Uncle Rico]

Yep, I was just taking offense to the courses being good enough.

Sand Valley would challenge them enough.  Not sure about Mammoth.  That doesn't detract from the wonder that is Mammoth, however.  It's an amazing 18 holes

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Lacks infrastructure, too.  Owners simply aren't going to want grandstands and merch tents all over their property.  There is a limited amount of venues that want major events.  Oakland Hills membership has been very lukewarm about overtures from the USGA and PGA.  I've heard the same about Medinah as well, though, I don't think the courses there can challenge the pro game anymore

How long are courses closed to membership prior to a major championship? 

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How long are courses closed to membership prior to a major championship? 

3-4 weeks, generally. Straits was open until Labor Day, but the Ryder Cup doesn't destroy the course.

Olympic Club was 5 or 6 weeks, but it's a high-round muni course.

[cheebs09]

Sand Valley would challenge them enough.  Not sure about Mammoth.  That doesn't detract from the wonder that is Mammoth, however.  It's an amazing 18 holes

Interesting. I always heard Mammoth Dunes was the tougher one. Maybe just the more fun one.

[Uncle Rico]

How long are courses closed to membership prior to a major championship?

Erin Hills was closed for a year but that's a public course.  Pebble was open two weeks before in 2019.  Some private clubs relish putting their club on display (Oakmont) while others are just happy being a bit of a mystery

[Uncle Rico]

Interesting. I always heard Mammoth Dunes was the tougher one. Maybe just the more fun one.

I thought Mammoth was much easier but everyone probably differs in opinion.