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wadesworld

So what do you do with the roster if you're the Bucks? Moose has been outstanding the second half of this year and what looked like a mistake now looks like he's worth the money. Do you hope he opts in? Do you try to offer him a longer term extension for slightly less money per year?

What about Snell? I want him back badly but I think he might command too much money. If you pay him you're probably not going to have the kind of money to get Jabari back in Milwaukee long term IF he comes back playing the way he was before the second knee injury. I think Snell fits better with the Bucks roster but obviously Jabari is the better talent, with a lot more injury risk.

Middleton will need to be paid fairly soon again.

This will be an interesting offseason.

wadesworld

Well let's see what kind of coach Kidd is. I'm not sure why we continue to see Giannis trying to attack from the top of the key. The Raptors have just put all 5 defenders with a foot in the key and watches no player or ball movement take place.

He also just stands there and watches the refs give the Raptors every single call. The Raptors and Casey whine at every single whistle, even when it goes their way. The Bucks? DeRozan misses an uncontested dunk and goes to the line while Kidd just stares blankly around.

MUfan12

Needed a T when the game was out of reach. Refs allowed Toronto to turn that game into a wrestling match.

Gonna be tough for the Bucks if they're allowed to play that way.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 22, 2017, 06:38:18 PM
Needed a T when the game was out of reach. Refs allowed Toronto to turn that game into a wrestling match.

Gonna be tough for the Bucks if they're allowed to play that way.

Agreed, although I think the Bucks have been just as physical. The problem today (and it didn't cost the Bucks the game, they played about as bad of offense as you could've possibly played) was that the whining of the Raptors was rewarded by the refs.

EaglesNest

One bright spot from game 4 was the play of Tony Snell. Without him the game would have been a major blowout

wadesworld

Quote from: MadtownGoldenEagle on April 23, 2017, 11:26:21 AM
One bright spot from game 4 was the play of Tony Snell. Without him the game would have been a major blowout

Yup.  He's the only one who really showed up.  Will be interesting to see what they do with him this offseason.  Not sure you're going to be able to pay him and still have money to pay Jabari if Jabari comes back the way he did from his first ACL tear.  Ideally you have both of them on the roster going forward, and if you do I honestly like the current starting lineup with Jabari in the roll that Monroe is in now (scorer off the bench).  I like having Snell and Middleton starting next to each other with Brogdon and Thon.  Length, defense, and shooting around Giannis.

MUfan12

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 12, 2017, 09:45:03 AM
Awful matchup for the Bucks. Raps in 5.

Okay, Raps in 6.

Last two have looked more and more like the regular season meetings. Casey made adjustments after game 3 and Kidd, well, hasn't.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 24, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
Okay, Raps in 6.

Last two have looked more and more like the regular season meetings. Casey made adjustments after game 3 and Kidd, well, hasn't.

Exactly.  The only "adjustments" I've seen over the last 2 games were Kidd trying to put Delly into pick and rolls with Giannis to get a switch of Lowry onto Giannis, but obviously the Raptors were more than happy to let Delly run down the lane and airball floaters over and over in game 4, and then double DeRozan every time he touched the ball early in game 5 so they countered by just getting him the ball in the corner and then playing 4 on 3 and getting layup after layup.

Also he has let the Raptors whine their way into getting every single call.  Every time Lowry has missed a shot this entire series he has ended up on the ground whining to the refs.  Kidd needs to get the refs to respect his team.  I hate all the whining in the NBA, but when it's working and the opposing coach just stands there looking lost as hell why wouldn't you do it?

GGGG

The problem that plagues the Bucks isn't easily fixed over the course of a series.  Lack of consistent outside shooting has been a problem all year.  Toronto is sagging into the lane to stop Giannis because there isn't anyone to consistently make them pay for doing so.  Not many "adjustments" will solve that problem.

MUfan12

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 25, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
The problem that plagues the Bucks isn't easily fixed over the course of a series.  Lack of consistent outside shooting has been a problem all year.  Toronto is sagging into the lane to stop Giannis because there isn't anyone to consistently make them pay for doing so.  Not many "adjustments" will solve that problem.

They've shot the ball pretty well in this series, save G4. Tied for best 3PT% in the playoffs at 42%.

Two major issues I see... 1) They cannot win if Khris Middleton is not playing well. Even though he was off in G1, he racked up assists and took care of the ball. He has been really bad the last two games. 2) Kidd/Sweeney need to back off the pressure a bit in the halfcourt. I'd sag on most of their guys and make them beat you from three, rather than extend the defense and allow a straight-line drive. Throwing the immediate double at DeRozan was naive, and it hurt them badly.

wadesworld

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 25, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
The problem that plagues the Bucks isn't easily fixed over the course of a series.  Lack of consistent outside shooting has been a problem all year.  Toronto is sagging into the lane to stop Giannis because there isn't anyone to consistently make them pay for doing so.  Not many "adjustments" will solve that problem.

Sure, but you can still at least try to make it easier.  I didn't get to watch the 2nd-4th quarters (and it looks like I should be thankful for that) last night.  It looks like Giannis went off.  I would guess Kidd put him more on the wing and mid post?  If so, how hard was it to see that he needed to stop having Giannis try to attack from the top of the 3 point line?  They literally had 5 guys with at least 1 foot in the paint when they were doing that in games 3 and 4.  At least move Giannis to the mid post so only 2-3 defenders have a chance to close in on him, not all 5.  Also, put Brogdon into pick and rolls with him if you want to get a switch for Giannis.  Having Delly run down the lane isn't going to scare the Raptors, he's not a threat to finish whatsoever.  Brogdon?  He at least has a chance to score at the rim.

Eldon

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on April 25, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
The problem that plagues the Bucks isn't easily fixed over the course of a series.  Lack of consistent outside shooting has been a problem all year.  Toronto is sagging into the lane to stop Giannis because there isn't anyone to consistently make them pay for doing so.  Not many "adjustments" will solve that problem.

We know that problem all too well.

GoldenDieners32

They played hard last night, one of the best games i've watched

4everwarriors

Basically, dey ain't got 'nough shot makas butt #34 shot his load and wuz spent. Oh, and Kidd's know Pop, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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