Chances NCAA Committee puts 2 BE teams head to head in play in

[NotAnAlum]

Starting thinking about this and I believe it is a legitimate concern.  Assuming X beats DePaul again and nothing too radical happens in the conference tournaments the BE does have 7 teams on the right side of the bubble.  By sending 70% of the teams it would eclipse the old record set by the original BE a few years back.  But that conference had several really great teams (Top 10) where the current BE has a bunch of good (not great) teams.  The members of the Committee are for the most part conference officials.  I fear there will be a bias towards handicapping the bottom BE teams by forcing 2 into the play in game.
Given that concern who would the 2 play in teams be.  One would obviously be X assuming they don't win a few games in the BE tournament.  I fear that the other could be MU if we lose to SH in the opening BE game.  Thoughts?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think X Will probably be in dayton, unless they win two at MSG. I think everyone else should be safe from dayton. If by some chance they put PC there with a 1st round BET exit and their rough losses, I don't think there is any chance they'd put them head to head with X.

So I'd say zero.

[Herman Cain]

I think X Will probably be in dayton, unless they win two at MSG. I think everyone else should be safe from dayton. If by some chance they put PC there with a 1st round BET exit and their rough losses, I don't think there is any chance they'd put them head to head with X.

So I'd say zero.

X playing at Dayton is tantamount to a home game for them. It may be a good thing.

[GWSwarrior]

Starting thinking about this and I believe it is a legitimate concern.  Assuming X beats DePaul again and nothing too radical happens in the conference tournaments the BE does have 7 teams on the right side of the bubble.  By sending 70% of the teams it would eclipse the old record set by the original BE a few years back.  But that conference had several really great teams (Top 10) where the current BE has a bunch of good (not great) teams.  The members of the Committee are for the most part conference officials.  I fear there will be a bias towards handicapping the bottom BE teams by forcing 2 into the play in game.
Given that concern who would the 2 play in teams be.  One would obviously be X assuming they don't win a few games in the BE tournament.  I fear that the other could be MU if we lose to SH in the opening BE game.  Thoughts?

My thoughts are thus:

The record was set in 1993 at something like ~71%

The ACC will probably get 11 teams, and while that is a lower % it does create more of a matchup problem. So if the committee is worried about conf. Matchups they are worried more about the ACC than the BE simply by the amount of teams

[AZMarqfan]

I'm not sure if there's a rule about this.  The way the rules are, 2 teams from the same conference cannot play until the Sweet 16.  However, the 2 play-in games might function under other rules. 

[MuMark]

I dont think the ACC is going to get 11.

[Benny B]

There are only two rules when it comes to bracketing: the host team can't play at the host site and BYU can't play on Sunday.  Everything else is merely a guideline (which means it can be broken).

That said.... the last four teams in the field by virtue of the balloting process are locked into Dayton.  That's why you'll see at-large teams with a 12-seed while the play-ins get 11's.  So if SHU and X are in on the last ballot, they will both be in Dayton, but they likely won't face each other (there are two play in games for the at-large, remember... and the winners don't face off in Dayton).

Now if three BE teams are on the last ballot, then two will have to face off in Dayton.  But astute selection watchers will note that this may not actually violate selection guidelines because regular season matchups are to be avoided in the first and second rounds (Dayton is not considered first round any more... it's the play in round or something).

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I dont think the ACC is going to get 11.

Yah more likely 10. Ga Tech still has a shot w a couple ACC tourney wins.

[dgies9156]

What are the chances we play the Hillbilly?

I don't care where that game is, I'm going to watch us slaughter that jackass!

[BossplayaOtto]

(Dayton is not considered first round any more... it's the play in round or something).

Correct. It is considered the "First Four". They do not like to refer to Dayton as play-in games.

[brewcity77]

My thoughts are thus:

The record was set in 1993 at something like ~71%

It was the 1991 Big East sending 7/9 (77.78%) teams to the tournament. One of the two that missed went to the NIT.

[oldwarrior81]

in 1991, when 7 of 9 BigEast teams got NCAA bids, Syracuse was the highest seed.

6 teams won their first round games while Syracuse as the #2 seed, lost to #15 seed Richmond. 

[CTWarrior]

I'm not sure if there's a rule about this.  The way the rules are, 2 teams from the same conference cannot play until the Sweet 16.  However, the 2 play-in games might function under other rules.

Those have not been the rules for quite some time.  Remember us beating Syracuse in the round of 32 for our first Sweet 16 under Buzz.  I would expect the only way they'll ever have two teams from the same conference play in Dayton is if there were 3 teams from the same conference in the last four in.

[CTWarrior]

That's why you'll see at-large teams with a 12-seed while the play-ins get 11's.

They could put the play-in winner into any seed they want.  Why would they ever not put them in the worst available seed line?