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[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Spoiler alert, starting next year to get a bye in the playoffs you need to be conference champions.

Further spoiler alert. ND could never win the SEC or B10111216 championship.

Correct. So why join a conference? If they are the number one team in the country, seeded fifth, they will get a home game (on a week's rest) in the first round followed by a neutral site game against the worst of the four autobids.

Or they could join a conference, hope to make the conference championship game, then win it.

Notre Dame is in a great spot.

[El Guerrero 2]

I don't think Notre Dame wants any of the Big 10 / SEC smoke. They're content sliding into the playoffs and getting exposed at the end of the year.

[TallTitan34]

Correct. So why join a conference? If they are the number one team in the country, seeded fifth, they will get a home game (on a week's rest) in the first round followed by a neutral site game against the worst of the four autobids.

Or they could join a conference, hope to make the conference championship game, then win it.

Notre Dame is in a great spot.

They still need to park the non-football sports somewhere if the ACC collapses.  Would the Big10 be interested in Notre Dame without football?  Would Notre Dame be interested in sending their non-football sports coast-to-coast for conference games? 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They still need to park the non-football sports somewhere if the ACC collapses.  Would the Big10 be interested in Notre Dame without football?  Would Notre Dame be interested in sending their non-football sports coast-to-coast for conference games? 

I was responding completely about them joining the Big East as a football conference.  Anyway, I don't think the ACC is going to completely implode. They will eventually lose valuable members no doubt, but there will be enough left for them to continue to park their non-football there.

They already have committed to sending their non-football teams coast to coast. So that's not really a change.

[wadesworld]

Notre Dame is going to need to affiliate themselves with a conference in some way, shape, or form.  If the "bigger" ACC football brands are picked off by the megaconferences, who is Notre Dame going to play?  How many conference games are the megaconferences going to play?

Stay affiliated with the ACC and they get 6 games over what's left of the ACC?  Georgia Tech, Boston College, Wake Forest, Pitt...?

Michigan is an extreme example as I'm not sure anyone has a tougher schedule.  But Michigan plays at Washington, vs. Oregon, at Ohio State, and vs. USC next year, just in conference.  Are schools really going to be interested in adding a top level non-con game?  I know Michigan has Texas as a non-con game, but I'm assuming that game was scheduled well before USC and Washington were added to their conference slate.

[Scoop Snoop]

They still need to park the non-football sports somewhere if the ACC collapses.  Would the Big10 be interested in Notre Dame without football?  Would Notre Dame be interested in sending their non-football sports coast-to-coast for conference games?

Bolded is exactly what a number of recent conference transferees will have to do.

I remember that Brey asked the newly "reformed" BE if they would consider letting ND park its bball in the BE until they figured out what direction they wanted to take post BE breakup. How arrogant was that? Their ACC deal was firmed up shortly afterward, but the idea that we would welcome ND as a visitor says a lot about ND's view of itself. If the ACC collapses as predicted, ND may float that idea again. If the BE attaches a huge exit fee, kerching kerching, but trusting ND is as naive as trusting UCONN. And yes, I know....any BE memeber that sees a better opportunity would go for it. But UCONN and ND are always looking for a better deal.

It is going to become more difficult to find major non con matchups for ND, so I see then in a conference full time, not the custom made version that they have in the ACC.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Notre Dame is not going to have trouble scheduling games. Their three main rivals will continue (Navy, Purdue, USC), they'll pick up games from the ACC (which will still have 10-12 members with the additions of Cal, Stanford and SMU and will likely pick up others like Tulane), and they will always have a line-up of opponents who want a home and home.

[Hards Alumni]

Notre Dame is not going to have trouble scheduling games. Their three main rivals will continue (Navy, Purdue, USC), they'll pick up games from the ACC (which will still have 10-12 members with the additions of Cal, Stanford and SMU and will likely pick up others like Tulane), and they will always have a line-up of opponents who want a home and home.

Hypothetically, could the B1G tell USC and Purdue that they can't schedule ND?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Hypothetically, could the B1G tell USC and Purdue that they can't schedule ND?

It may not be legal, but why would they? The B10 doesn't need Notre Dame, and the CFP isn't treating them special in anyway. They can just let ND be independent.

[Hards Alumni]

It may not be legal, but why would they? The B10 doesn't need Notre Dame, and the CFP isn't treating them special in anyway. They can just let ND be independent.

Need, no.  But they're quite the catch.

They didn't need USC and UCLA either if we're being honest.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I may be simplifying things here, but the fact that ND gets less for its media contracts than each B10 member leads me to believe that they aren't as valuable as they used to be.

[Uncle Rico]

I may be simplifying things here, but the fact that ND gets less for its media contracts than each B10 member leads me to believe that they aren't as valuable as they used to be.

Do they care they don't get as much?  If that was their biggest priority, they'd be in a conference for football.

My hunch is, they'll be forced into a conference at some point and both the SEC or Fat 100 would take them

[MurphysTillClose]

Spoiler alert, starting next year to get a bye in the playoffs you need to be conference champions.

Further spoiler alert. ND could never win the SEC or B10111216 championship.

They do not care. That's the point everyone seems to be missing this past week with the new formatting of the 12 team playoff. ND is more than willing to play their 13th game, most likely at home, in the playoffs. That is a price they are willing to pay to be independent. They'd rather that, than playing a neutral site conference championship game as their 13th data point.

They are also more than willing to take less per year (up to a certain amount) to stay independent. They easily make up the difference. ND is a cash cow

If any athletic members here, their beat guy explains this:  https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/23/the-value-notre-dame-places-on-being-independent/

[MU82]

ND football will continue to be a money-printing machine. No matter what happens with conference realignment, it will be fine - more than fine actually.

But if the ACC goes buh-bye as its schools scatter to other leagues, ND will need a place to put all their non-football sports. And unless the Big East also goes buh-bye, it would be the logical place, wouldn't it? It's hard to believe that the B77 and the SEC would take them without a full football commitment the way the desperate ACC did. Maybe if the B12 creates some kind of basketball superconference as has been bandied about in forums like this, ND could go there? Otherwise, it would appear to be the Big East, A10 or nuthin'.

[StillAWarrior]

Hypothetically, could the B1G tell USC and Purdue that they can't schedule ND?

They'd also have to tell that to Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State...all of whom have played ND more in frequently in recent years than Purdue. They've also had Wisconsin and Northwestern on the schedule. ND has always played a lot of Big 10 teams.

[lawdog77]

There is no chance Notre Dame isn't a member of one of the big conferences.

exactly. If the ACC implodes, any of the remaining conferences would give their left nut to have ND has a full-time member. And I dislike ND immensely.

[The Lens]

Now that the Big Ten is in bed with NBC, there's no way they're blocking Purdue / USC / Michigan / MSU from Notre Dame's schedule. 

[DoctorV]

Notre Dame sucks

[Viper]

There was a time I was more obsessed in my dislike of Notre Dame than my current dislike of Wisconsin, just sayin'

[wadesworld]

There was a time I was more obsessed in my dislike of Notre Dame than my current dislike of Wisconsin, just sayin'

Hard to believe.

[MU82]

There was a time I was more obsessed in my dislike of Notre Dame than my current dislike of Wisconsin, just sayin'

You changed brothers-in-law since then?

[Newsdreams]

Fck ND Superbar