Main Menu
collapse

'23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

Big East Standings

Recent Posts

Server Upgrade - This is the new server by mileskishnish72
[Today at 07:37:55 PM]


Big East 2024 -25 Results by Uncle Rico
[Today at 06:13:16 PM]


Owens out Monday by TAMU, Knower of Ball
[Today at 03:23:08 PM]


Shaka Preseason Availability by Tyler COLEk
[Today at 03:14:12 PM]


Marquette Picked #3 in Big East Conference Preview by Jay Bee
[Today at 02:04:27 PM]


Get to know Ben Steele by Hidden User
[Today at 12:14:10 PM]


Deleted by TallTitan34
[Today at 09:31:48 AM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address. We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

Next up: B&G Tip-Off Luncheon

Marquette
Marquette

B&G Luncheon

Date/Time: Oct 31, 2024 11:30am
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2012, 12:43:45 PM
But I think Buzz would give him an honest assessment. Even if it's saying "I project you playing the big switchable roles, there's 80 mpg at those positions, and right now you'd have to make up a lot of ground to start, but could be first off the bench". Of course he won't give a guarantee or a definite, but is Buzz going to brush him off with a "you'll get whatever minutes you earn" comment?

In addition, Buzz hasn't seemed to have a problem with transfers out before. He understands they happen. I really believe he's going to do what he thinks is best for the kid. And my guess is right now what's best for Juan's development as a player and person is at Marquette. Especially as this is a kid Buzz found personally and really liked his game from the start, and a kid who has seemed as dedicated to Marquette as any we've had in the past while.

I just don't see him leaving yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can think of at least 4 guys I think would be more likely to leave than Juan.
I agree that he doesn't seem the most likely candidate to leave -- if all you are considering is results on the court.  He's got to be the furthest from home of anybody on the team (except maybe D Wilson) so that might factor into it in a big way, who knows?  They are young kids still.

Buzz is a great motivator.  I have a hard time believing that he's going to promise any role to a bench player who's trying to break into the rotation.  He wants them busting tail every day to get better and earn it.  Promising anything is counter-productive to that IMO.

Canadian Dimes

Not sure why he would be interested in Iowa state, they are going to SUCK next year without Royce White.  Saw them from the front row in the NCAas n he was the entire team

Bocephys

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 20, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
Not sure why he would be interested in Iowa state, they are going to SUCK next year without Royce White.  Saw them from the front row in the NCAas n he was the entire team

So there will be plenty of playing time available

brewcity77

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:57:43 PM
I agree that he doesn't seem the most likely candidate to leave -- if all you are considering is results on the court.  He's got to be the furthest from home of anybody on the team (except maybe D Wilson) so that might factor into it in a big way, who knows?  They are young kids still.

Buzz is a great motivator.  I have a hard time believing that he's going to promise any role to a bench player who's trying to break into the rotation.  He wants them busting tail every day to get better and earn it.  Promising anything is counter-productive to that IMO.

I'm not.
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available

I don't think Lockett is real concerned with time available. He is going to play, and likely start, on any team he transfers to unless he decides to go to UK or something.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MUBurrow

So to recap - it seems like there is too much smoke and continuous recruiting for nothing to change on the roster for next year. And since whoever isn't coming back probably already knows it, the candidates (with the reasons why) seem to be one or more of:

- Durley (senior year performance, coach article, Buzz interview)
- Juan (twitter background - which for most wouldn't be a huge deal, but with Juan's enthusiasm for the program given his changing the high school uni and socks, etc, might be a bigger concern than most - and his distance from home, and potential frustration with progress/PT last year)
- Vander (PR issues, feeds into speculation about Buzz v. Administration)
- Jamail (was highly recruited out of HS, seems most obvious candidate for purely basketball reasons after falling behind Juan this season and possibly having been recruited over for this and upcoming seasons)
- Chris (depends on his decision for a sixth year, although this wouldn't open up a schollie for this upcoming season)

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Really? How many here would just gut it out if your goal was to play in the Association, given the lack of court time Juan earned?

Transferring is not going to help Juan get to the NBA.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:29:57 PM
Do you think Buzz (or any coach for that matter) is going to tell any player that?  The answer would be "you'll get whatever minutes you earn." 


really an ignorant statement ...coaches have meeting with the players and assess where they stand and what they need to do to get more time.  Happens all the time and at all levels.  I guarantee they have had end of season review meting and have projected where they are on the depth charts and what they need to show to move up for the next year and year projected forward

often times based on that players see that they are caught in a number game...that is too many better players ahead of them.  And they want to go else where and play.  i assure you 99% percent of transfers are players seeing the writing on the wall and transfer because they simply want to play whether they agree with the assessment or not.  The kids are rarely forced out.

  Case in point Buzz would have loved for Eric Willimas to have stuck around.  A junior to provide a backup for Otule, Devante, Jamil and Jae.  Well being the 3rd string center and the 3rd string PF did not appeal to Eric as he entered his Junior year so he chose to go some where where he knew he could play and best have the opportuntiy to showcase any skills for an opportunity for basketball after college. 

As it turns out Buzz would have loved to have him as he would have been the one on the court this year at the 4 or 5 instaed of Jamail and Juan.  And i dont think anyone can argue Eric would have been a better 4 and 5 then those guys were.  However, he chose to leave.  He was not cut he was not forced out,  he saw he was 3rd string at two positions as a junior and chose to leave.  That is how it works.   Not "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."   

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available


ahh plenty of time available at Arizona state tooo.  Duh, clearly transfering as an opportunity to better showcase himself and get a chance to win

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 20, 2012, 02:06:17 PM

ahh plenty of time available at Arizona state tooo.  Duh, clearly transfering as an opportunity to better showcase himself and get a chance to win


I thought he was transferring, in part, because he wanted to be closer to home since his mother is sick. Ames is closer to the Twin Cities than Milwaukee is.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 20, 2012, 09:59:20 AM
According to Mark Miller, down to Marquette, Gonzaga and Iowa State.

So much for his mother's illness being a concern.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 11:07:52 AM

Sure that's not just gas?

He's not talking nitrous oxide, if that's what you mean.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available

If he wanted guaranteed playing time on a sucky team, he could just stay where he is.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

nyg

Lockett signs on with MU.  Immediately takes DJO's spot.  Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.

Could this happen?  Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him?  Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....

brewcity77

Quote from: nyg on April 20, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
Lockett signs on with MU.  Immediately takes DJO's spot.  Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.

Could this happen?  Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him?  Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....

If Lockett takes a spot, it's one that I'm assuming Buzz already knows will be vacant. We are full up for 2012-13, and I don't think he'd over-recruit a situation that would force Mayo out.

Someone isn't going to be back next year, Buzz is aware, Buzz is taking action to have the highest quality roster for next year and keep all scholarships full. Granted, those are all assumptions, but I'd wager my paycheck that Buzz knew which scholarship Lockett would be using before he even made first contact.
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

NersEllenson

Quote from: nyg on April 20, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
Lockett signs on with MU.  Immediately takes DJO's spot.  Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.

Could this happen?  Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him?  Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....

Let's hope not. Mayo in my view is one of the Top 3 players on next year's squad..and I look for him to be a starter, regardless of Lockett's arrival.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

LAZER

Quote from: Ners on April 20, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Let's hope not. Mayo in my view is one of the Top 3 players on next year's squad..and I look for him to be a starter, regardless of Lockett's arrival.

Unfortunately for Mayo he's pretty old already as it is and sitting out a year only hurts his chances of being drafted, if that is in fact his ultimate goal.

Lennys Tap

 With Blue, Mayo and TJ Taylor set to split time at the 2/3 I don't see a real need for Lockett. Hope I'm wrong, but if we end up with Lockett it's likely a) Buzz thinks TJ isn't ready or b) Blue, Mayo or TJ won't be here.

Canadian Dimes

Mayo will prolly get more playing time next year than vander.  He has nothing to worry about. 

SaintPaulWarrior

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 20, 2012, 02:24:34 PM

I thought he was transferring, in part, because he wanted to be closer to home since his mother is sick. Ames is closer to the Twin Cities than Milwaukee is.


Not by airplane.