Quote from: Captain Quette on March 28, 2025, 11:54:48 AMKam was making very good money last year. My hope is that his money cycles back into the bucket for perhaps an upside oriented portal player. Though if shaka eschews the portal... does current roster get pay raises or the money goes unused?

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2025, 12:15:38 PM

I'm beginning to see why I got good grades at Marquette.

Quote from: The Sultan on March 28, 2025, 02:06:15 PMI'm beginning to see why I got good grades at Marquette.

It took this long to figure that out, lol.

Quote from: RJax55 on March 28, 2025, 02:08:26 PMIt took this long to figure that out, lol.

They weren't THAT good.

Please explain?

Quote from: Captain Quette on March 28, 2025, 02:25:24 PMPlease explain?

There isn't a pot to be shared.  There is the collective money, and then there is money players get for selling their Name, Image, and Likeness.  Which can be endorsements, commercials, appearances, etc.

A bunch of Kam's money came from businesses and product ads and appearances.  That money doesn't just hang out waiting for the next Marquette guy to show up.  Sorta like the best player for the Bulls isn't getting the Jordan style shoe deal.

Capiche?

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2025, 02:40:08 PMThere isn't a pot to be shared.  There is the collective money, and then there is money players get for selling their Name, Image, and Likeness.  Which can be endorsements, commercials, appearances, etc.

A bunch of Kam's money came from businesses and product ads and appearances.  That money doesn't just hang out waiting for the next Marquette guy to show up.  Sorta like the best player for the Bulls isn't getting the Jordan style shoe deal.

Capiche?

Yea both Kam and Jop put in the effort and got tons of NIL deals. Kam was down near oak creek a couple weeks ago at a car wash doing autographs etc. I believe Marquette pays everyone equally, and its up to them to find deals in the area.

Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 28, 2025, 02:42:03 PMYea both Kam and Jop put in the effort and got tons of NIL deals. Kam was down near oak creek a couple weeks ago at a car wash doing autographs etc. I believe Marquette pays everyone equally, and its up to them to find deals in the area.

This is why Shaka's position about Agents surprises me.  If I were balancing school, basketball and trying to hustle for NIL dollars, i absolutely would want someone to help me manage it and go get new deals. But maybe I'm missing something.

I appreciate the the explanation, thank you.

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 28, 2025, 02:51:45 PMThis is why Shaka's position about Agents surprises me.  If I were balancing school, basketball and trying to hustle for NIL dollars, i absolutely would want someone to help me manage it and go get new deals. But maybe I'm missing something.

You are. He doesn't mind agents, he's even suggested TK get one. He's just saying that using them to negotiate with the BTD collective is useless because players are getting what they are getting.

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 28, 2025, 02:51:45 PMThis is why Shaka's position about Agents surprises me.  If I were balancing school, basketball and trying to hustle for NIL dollars, i absolutely would want someone to help me manage it and go get new deals. But maybe I'm missing something.

You've misinterpreted what was said. Marquette will not deal with the agents, they have told the players everyone gets paid the same, no need for agents here. None of them are barred from having agents for NIL deals outside of the school,

Interesting quote by Jeff Goodman last night here (1:24) while talking about why Kevin Willard is potentially headed to Nova.

"We know the Big East has an advantage - at least for the short term - right now in the NIL market, because they don't have football."

So I met with an MU development officer this year.  The BTD collective is going to be falling into the background and base NIL will be through revenue sharing at each university.  MU has an advantage because there is a cap...and they don't have to share that cap with football.  Now the Cap is going to be about 20 million...but MU won't spend that...the number I heard was maybe 8-9 which I assume was across all sports...but I could be wrong.

Institutions will allocate a portion of their revenues to create a "Pool," which will cap the maximum dollar value of additional payments or benefits that Division I institutions can provide to student-athletes each academic year. For the 2025-26 academic year, the estimated Pool cap is approximately $20.5 million, though the final figure will be determined in Q1 of 2025.

Quote from: warriorchick on March 27, 2025, 09:47:46 PMSame here.

MU's issue is that it has a fraction of the alumni that most power 4 conferences have. There is only a handful of major donors.  You can only go to that well so many times.

Anyone who is bitching about Marquette not putting together enough NIL money needs to get out their checkbook.  Not their day-to-day one, their brokerage one.

Especially when all the well gets for their investment is a first round flameout

Quote from: warriorchick on March 27, 2025, 09:47:46 PMSame here.

MU's issue is that it has a fraction of the alumni that most power 4 conferences have. There is only a handful of major donors.  You can only go to that well so many times.

Anyone who is bitching about Marquette not putting together enough NIL money needs to get out their checkbook.  Not their day-to-day one, their brokerage one.

Nah, I think Marquette has taken enough of my money eh?

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 28, 2025, 02:40:08 PMThere isn't a pot to be shared.  There is the collective money, and then there is money players get for selling their Name, Image, and Likeness.  Which can be endorsements, commercials, appearances, etc.

A bunch of Kam's money came from businesses and product ads and appearances.  That money doesn't just hang out waiting for the next Marquette guy to show up.  Sorta like the best player for the Bulls isn't getting the Jordan style shoe deal.

Capiche?

I doubt some booster would independently work to keep, say, Al Amadou at MU with a big NIL deal without first verifying that Shaka wanted to retain him.

And if Shaka realizes that to retain Parham he needs an extra NIL deal or two to get it done, he knows exactly who to reach out to. He'll pick up the phone and call the car wash guy or someone similar--and that's how Royce will wind up with a bigger NIL deal while at the same time MU maintains an "everyone gets the same" party line.

While it might be true there is no official "pot to be shared", there is money available, and it is naive to think it's not at least indirectly controlled by Shaka.

Yes.  TKo did commercials.  Kam endorsed products and signed autographs.  Lots of t-shirts for sale through the spirit shop website.  And, I have heard rumblings that even through the NIL fund, seniority and production are rewarded somewhat.  But, that pool of money is finite.

Quote from: 1SE on March 29, 2025, 01:11:24 AMEspecially when all the well gets for their investment is a first round flameout

This is the fate of Marquette fans who say only the NCAA tourney matters. Your season ended at 0-1.    I enjoyed the regular season, even with the losses. 

Quote from: mu_eyeballs on March 28, 2025, 11:18:50 PMSo I met with an MU development officer this year.  The BTD collective is going to be falling into the background and base NIL will be through revenue sharing at each university.  MU has an advantage because there is a cap...and they don't have to share that cap with football.  Now the Cap is going to be about 20 million...but MU won't spend that...the number I heard was maybe 8-9 which I assume was across all sports...but I could be wrong.

Institutions will allocate a portion of their revenues to create a "Pool," which will cap the maximum dollar value of additional payments or benefits that Division I institutions can provide to student-athletes each academic year. For the 2025-26 academic year, the estimated Pool cap is approximately $20.5 million, though the final figure will be determined in Q1 of 2025.

No cap on outside income. It will be abused just like the previous system was abused.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 29, 2025, 09:38:44 AMThis is the fate of Marquette fans who say only the NCAA tourney matters. Your season ended at 0-1.    I enjoyed the regular season, even with the losses. 

As a bonus they can act all grumpy on Scoop for the next nine months.

Quote from: The Sultan on March 29, 2025, 10:11:27 AMAs a bonus they can act all grumpy on Scoop for the next nine months.

Going off-topic a bit (excuse the bragging, but I'm really good at that):

We all have our own ways of watching and reacting to MUBB games. I am fortunate to be able to get over losses within 15 minutes or so (just the way I'm wired) but enjoy the wins for quite a while. I really do not understand the venting of rage on Scoop after a loss. To avoid a scoopcation, I will not expound upon this.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 29, 2025, 10:24:51 AMGoing off-topic a bit (excuse the bragging, but I'm really good at that):

We all have our own ways of watching and reacting to MUBB games. I am fortunate to be able to get over losses within 15 minutes or so (just the way I'm wired) but enjoy the wins for quite a while. I really do not understand the venting of rage on Scoop after a loss. To avoid a scoopcation, I will not expound upon this.

I agree with this analysis

Quote from: The Sultan on March 29, 2025, 10:11:27 AMAs a bonus they can act all grumpy on Scoop for the next nine months.

As opposed to those three months when they are even grumpier.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 29, 2025, 10:24:51 AMGoing off-topic a bit (excuse the bragging, but I'm really good at that):

We all have our own ways of watching and reacting to MUBB games. I am fortunate to be able to get over losses within 15 minutes or so (just the way I'm wired) but enjoy the wins for quite a while. I really do not understand the venting of rage on Scoop after a loss. To avoid a scoopcation, I will not expound upon this.

For me, it depends on how the loss was lost, the importance of it, etc. For example, the loss at Creighton in February wasn't exactly a shock and we never really had a chance to win the game, but our guys didn't pack it in either. So I got over my grumpiness pretty quickly. The loss to New America in an NCAAT game, I thought we made too many terrible mistakes and lost to a team we were better than, and it ended our season, so it took me a while. I didn't even look at Scoop for 48 hours, and that helped me get over it.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 29, 2025, 10:24:51 AMGoing off-topic a bit (excuse the bragging, but I'm really good at that):

We all have our own ways of watching and reacting to MUBB games. I am fortunate to be able to get over losses within 15 minutes or so (just the way I'm wired) but enjoy the wins for quite a while. I really do not understand the venting of rage on Scoop after a loss. To avoid a scoopcation, I will not expound upon this.

I was raised on the Lions.  I was at MU during the Majerus/Dukiet era.  I spent a career walking into burning buildings and doing CPR. Losses are part of the journey and sports are not life and death.  Every fanbase but one ends every single season in every sport disappointed.  So, like you, I enjoy the wins and shake off the losses.
  And, having been a part of coaching 39 different youth teams, I also default to watching the process and being protective of the kids.