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MUbiz

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 27, 2025, 11:43:33 AMThis is where the power of conference should step in.  We can match Duke's connections if the Big East worked to do so for their most marketable players. 

There is a lot of opportunity that we can leverage here....bigger isnt better necessarily for these conferences.

This is also valid. I would assume the BE is already doing this. To what extent, I do not know. It would be malpractice if the BE was not trying to do something in this regard.

79Warrior

Quote from: avid1010 on March 27, 2025, 11:18:34 AMYou have no f'ing clue what you are talking about.  My sources are pretty decent...former player that is around NIL and former player that is around recruits.  Kam closer to $2 million than $1 million.
 
Heck, I just did a Google search, and while I would agree it's hard for anyone to know... https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/nil-news/men-s-college-basketball-top-5-highest-nil-earners-this-season

I actually do and you are wayyyyyyyy off.

Nutty

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 27, 2025, 11:43:33 AMThis is where the power of conference should step in.  We can match Duke's connections if the Big East worked to do so for their most marketable players. 

There is a lot of opportunity that we can leverage here....bigger isnt better necessarily for these conferences.

Maybe MU can match Duke's connections among alumni networks and corporate connections.  Which matters locally.  But, Duke has ESPN as its PR machine working in overdrive. Merely playing for Duke seems to make you a star. Especially now with ESPN's even cozier relationship with the ACC and SEC in the past several years. 

The House settlement is interesting.  I am reasonably confident that football schools will still find a way to keep up with the basketball schools in terms of revenue sharing, once the dust settles and everyone knows what is going on.  So far, NIL has done nothing but benefit the B1G and SEC above all others.  They'll find a way.

BCHoopster

MU should have have decent resources for a player as the theee seniors deserved there fair share.  Not sure there is a player coming back deserves the kind of money those 3 kids did.

wadesworld

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 27, 2025, 02:47:55 PMMU should have have decent resources for a player as the theee seniors deserved there fair share.  Not sure there is a player coming back deserves the kind of money those 3 kids did.

That's not really how Marquette does it.  But sure.

tower912

What do most people think MU has for an NIL budget?   MU is not destitute, but don't think for a second there is a billionaire dropping 8 figures a year.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: tower912 on March 27, 2025, 03:20:29 PMWhat do most people think MU has for an NIL budget?   MU is not destitute, but don't think for a second there is a billionaire dropping 8 figures a year.

$0. Not allowed.
Top Ten Team in First Two Months of the Season, baldy.

tower912

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 27, 2025, 03:27:53 PM$0. Not allowed.
Not allowed yet.   How much do people think the NIL collective has?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

avid1010

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 12:32:11 PMI actually do and you are wayyyyyyyy off.
So what did he make this year?

MU82

We don't need to match Duke to be an extremely successful program.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BCHoopster

Kam got paid, and it was not peanuts.  Upcoming year, there will be no one close to there numbers, so the collective probably has some money!

79Warrior

Quote from: avid1010 on March 27, 2025, 05:59:59 PMSo what did he make this year?

I don't pretend to know the exact amount but the collective had just under $3mm so you do the math.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 07:51:03 PMI don't pretend to know the exact amount but the collective had just under $3mm so you do the math.

You're discounting deals outside (or setup) by BTD, but not paid directly.

MarquetteMike1977

Take the source or lack there of into consideration but a co worker told me his daughter who goes to Minnesota told him she heard from a source connected to the team that Minnesotas best player maybe Dawson was getting 1 Million NIL last year.

GoldenEagles03

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Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 27, 2025, 09:28:55 PMTake the source or lack there of into consideration but a co worker told me his daughter who goes to Minnesota told him she heard from a source connected to the team that Minnesotas best player maybe Dawson was getting 1 Million NIL last year.

VIOLENCE!

The Sultan

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 27, 2025, 09:28:55 PMTake the source or lack there of into consideration but a co worker told me his daughter who goes to Minnesota told him she heard from a source connected to the team that Minnesotas best player maybe Dawson was getting 1 Million NIL last year.

lol. No.
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warriorchick

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 08:49:47 PMLastly, I have never understood why jump balls aren't actual jump balls.  I've always hated alternate possession.  Are they simply incapable of throwing the ball up?

So do you think it is fair to do a jump ball if a 5"10" player locks up the ball with a 7'1" player?
Have some patience, FFS.

warriorchick

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 12:32:11 PMI actually do and you are wayyyyyyyy off.

Same here.

MU's issue is that it has a fraction of the alumni that most power 4 conferences have. There is only a handful of major donors.  You can only go to that well so many times.

Anyone who is bitching about Marquette not putting together enough NIL money needs to get out their checkbook.  Not their day-to-day one, their brokerage one.
Have some patience, FFS.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: warriorchick on March 27, 2025, 09:47:46 PMneeds to get out their checkbook.  Not their day-to-day one, their brokerage one.

A little age discrimination here.  I've got several brokerage accounts, a few checking & savings accounts, and the only checkbook I have is for a decades old checking account I didn't really use anymore.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 08:49:47 PMWe can add additional absurd things that must be addressed:

The wild wild west regarding transfers/nil needs to have some parameters or a cap.  There should be a 2 yr minimum contract imo, or force them to sit out a year like before.

The unlimited 2 minute reviews are a total joke.  They're essentially called for time-outs.  And it's absolutely solvable.  You either do it like the NBA challenge system, or the refs need to tell the coaches to go fk themselves because they saw the play 100%. If the coaches insist they're wrong?  Auto 2 shot tech + the ball if the zebras are correct. 

Lastly, I have never understood why jump balls aren't actual jump balls.  I've always hated alternate possession.  Are they simply incapable of throwing the ball up?

Tie ups should go to the defense. Like in pick up ball.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

avid1010

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 07:51:03 PMI don't pretend to know the exact amount but the collective had just under $3mm so you do the math.

No kidding...had very little to do with the collective.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 07:51:03 PMI don't pretend to know the exact amount but the collective had just under $3mm so you do the math.


Once again, I'm not sure a lot of people know what NIL is or means.

Here is someone who claims to know about the collective thinking that it is the only stream of NIL money for our players.

connie

Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2025, 11:05:00 AMYou don't know, you're taking a guess. And that's not a criticism of you - I don't know, either. We'll see how it plays out.

But do check out GE03's post right above this one.
No offense taken. I did read the quote from Dellenger, I just don't believe it.  It's like watching a former president and being told he was sharp as a tack. It seems pretty clear that the SEC has invested heavily in basketball, including schools that didn't have a huge prior presence.  I think their recent success is going to cause that commitment to grow.  Sure there will be struggles between the bb and fb needs and boosters, but I think the culture is there for far more monetary support than many BE schools can come up with.  Does anyone think that LSU is going to accept the rest of the SEC's bb success and not try to fix their lowly finish this year with more money? Prices are just going to go up. I really hope I'm wrong, and I certainly have no more insight (probably less) than most, but I think MU really struggles in the unregulated NIL world.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

MU82

Quote from: connie on March 28, 2025, 08:32:47 AMNo offense taken. I did read the quote from Dellenger, I just don't believe it.  It's like watching a former president and being told he was sharp as a tack. It seems pretty clear that the SEC has invested heavily in basketball, including schools that didn't have a huge prior presence.  I think their recent success is going to cause that commitment to grow.  Sure there will be struggles between the bb and fb needs and boosters, but I think the culture is there for far more monetary support than many BE schools can come up with.  Does anyone think that LSU is going to accept the rest of the SEC's bb success and not try to fix their lowly finish this year with more money? Prices are just going to go up. I really hope I'm wrong, and I certainly have no more insight (probably less) than most, but I think MU really struggles in the unregulated NIL world.

OK. I guess we'll see!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Captain Quette

Kam was making very good money last year. My hope is that his money cycles back into the bucket for perhaps an upside oriented portal player. Though if shaka eschews the portal... does current roster get pay raises or the money goes unused?

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