Opening the portal during the NCAA tournament is beyond absurd. 

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 08:14:21 PMOpening the portal during the NCAA tournament is beyond absurd. 

You and Izzo agree.

I'm with Muggsy on this one

Yes.  Also should but a ban on coaching changes and a ban on asking coaches about coaching changes. 

We can add additional absurd things that must be addressed:

The wild wild west regarding transfers/nil needs to have some parameters or a cap.  There should be a 2 yr minimum contract imo, or force them to sit out a year like before.

The unlimited 2 minute reviews are a total joke.  They're essentially called for time-outs.  And it's absolutely solvable.  You either do it like the NBA challenge system, or the refs need to tell the coaches to go fk themselves because they saw the play 100%. If the coaches insist they're wrong?  Auto 2 shot tech + the ball if the zebras are correct. 

Lastly, I have never understood why jump balls aren't actual jump balls.  I've always hated alternate possession.  Are they simply incapable of throwing the ball up?

Here's The Athletic's business of sports newsletter about $$$ in college basketball ...

Meanwhile, the biggest adjustment is still coming up this spring: the pending House settlement to a class-action lawsuit that would allow each DI school to share $20 million of revenue with players.

Any with big football programs will put most of the bag toward that, but the basketball-first schools (like the Big East and many mid-majors) will spend it on hoops, theoretically flattening the big-school advantages. What St. John's was able to do with a billionaire's bankroll will now be more accessible to the Georgetowns and Gonzagas.
 
(If you love a team in a power conference, don't worry: NIL collectives can — and will — still pay well beyond an NCAA-sanctioned $20 million floor.)

The portal opened Monday, transfer rules are lax and it makes NFL, NBA and MLB free agency look stodgy. NIL budgets are skyrocketing, and players and coaches alike are all on year-to-year deals — now, we just don't have to use NCAA-avoidant euphemisms or "bag men" or burner phones.

As disruptive and uncomfortable as that might seem, it actually feels healthier than the old system.

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 25, 2025, 08:14:21 PMOpening the portal during the NCAA tournament is beyond absurd. 

blame the coaches for that, they're the ones who pushed for these dates.

Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2025, 08:34:10 AMHere's The Athletic's business of sports newsletter about $$$ in college basketball ...

Meanwhile, the biggest adjustment is still coming up this spring: the pending House settlement to a class-action lawsuit that would allow each DI school to share $20 million of revenue with players.

Any with big football programs will put most of the bag toward that, but the basketball-first schools (like the Big East and many mid-majors) will spend it on hoops, theoretically flattening the big-school advantages. What St. John's was able to do with a billionaire's bankroll will now be more accessible to the Georgetowns and Gonzagas.
 
(If you love a team in a power conference, don't worry: NIL collectives can — and will — still pay well beyond an NCAA-sanctioned $20 million floor.)

The portal opened Monday, transfer rules are lax and it makes NFL, NBA and MLB free agency look stodgy. NIL budgets are skyrocketing, and players and coaches alike are all on year-to-year deals — now, we just don't have to use NCAA-avoidant euphemisms or "bag men" or burner phones.

As disruptive and uncomfortable as that might seem, it actually feels healthier than the old system.

It does though, in my opinion, completely divorce athletics from being a legitimate component of an Academic mission. When an average of 5-players from each team (or more) are entering the portal every year it is clear that there is essentially no consideration of academics in college basketball/football.

Quote from: forgetful on March 26, 2025, 08:59:17 AMIt does though, in my opinion, completely divorce athletics from being a legitimate component of an Academic mission. When an average of 5-players from each team (or more) are entering the portal every year it is clear that there is essentially no consideration of academics in college basketball/football.

This has been the case for decades. Nothing new to see here in regard to the bolded.

I laugh at all the doom-and-gloom talk every time something changes in big-time college sports. And I want the athletes to get as much money as they can and have freedom of movement.

But opening the transfer portal before the season is over is dumb and destructive. I have yet to see good justification for it.

Power Conference coaches fear the Big East has a major advantage, one that Shaka won't leverage with the retention, but they fear football schools can't compete with the Big East.

(Also calling the Big East a mid major is funny.)

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1904882033203040459?t=Jot03iIggSpQX2hlduX1zg&s=19

Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2025, 08:34:10 AMHere's The Athletic's business of sports newsletter about $$$ in college basketball ...

Meanwhile, the biggest adjustment is still coming up this spring: the pending House settlement to a class-action lawsuit that would allow each DI school to share $20 million of revenue with players.

Any with big football programs will put most of the bag toward that, but the basketball-first schools (like the Big East and many mid-majors) will spend it on hoops, theoretically flattening the big-school advantages. What St. John's was able to do with a billionaire's bankroll will now be more accessible to the Georgetowns and Gonzagas.
 
(If you love a team in a power conference, don't worry: NIL collectives can — and will — still pay well beyond an NCAA-sanctioned $20 million floor.)

The portal opened Monday, transfer rules are lax and it makes NFL, NBA and MLB free agency look stodgy. NIL budgets are skyrocketing, and players and coaches alike are all on year-to-year deals — now, we just don't have to use NCAA-avoidant euphemisms or "bag men" or burner phones.

As disruptive and uncomfortable as that might seem, it actually feels healthier than the old system.

This presupposes the additional revenue stays in football, which seems not to be the case as much anymore.  Teams like Baylor, TTech,Ole Miss etc were never to my limited memory basketball powers. I think something has changed at these more "hard core" football schools to get them to pay attention to basketball with their abundant resources. I do not think that bodes well for little ole MU.

Quote from: connie on March 26, 2025, 09:47:32 AMThis presupposes the additional revenue stays in football, which seems not to be the case as much anymore.  Teams like Baylor, TTech,Ole Miss etc were never to my limited memory basketball powers. I think something has changed at these more "hard core" football schools to get them to pay attention to basketball with their abundant resources. I do not think that bodes well for little ole MU.

You don't know, you're taking a guess. And that's not a criticism of you - I don't know, either. We'll see how it plays out.

But do check out GE03's post right above this one.

Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2025, 09:36:18 AMI laugh at all the doom-and-gloom talk every time something changes in big-time college sports. And I want the athletes to get as much money as they can and have freedom of movement.

But opening the transfer portal before the season is over is dumb and destructive. I have yet to see good justification for it.

My criticism is completely from an academics perspective. Athletes are already often restricted on what Major's they are allowed to pursue.

When they transfer, often many of their classes do not transfer over to a major at the new school, which sets them back even further. That leads to it almost being impossible to graduate with a good degree.

And they are transferring for immediate financial reasons. The consequences are that athletes, most of whom will never make anything playing professionally after school, are preyed upon by agents, and schools, who leave them ultimately with no marketable degree,

In many cases, these changes are not benefitting the athletes long term.

Quote from: forgetful on March 26, 2025, 09:01:38 PMMy criticism is completely from an academics perspective. Athletes are already often restricted on what Major's they are allowed to pursue.

When they transfer, often many of their classes do not transfer over to a major at the new school, which sets them back even further. That leads to it almost being impossible to graduate with a good degree.

And they are transferring for immediate financial reasons. The consequences are that athletes, most of whom will never make anything playing professionally after school, are preyed upon by agents, and schools, who leave them ultimately with no marketable degree,

In many cases, these changes are not benefitting the athletes long term.

That's a reasonable argument against the way the transfer portal and pay-for-play currently operates. I'm not sure I agree with much of it, but it's reasonable.

However, it didn't address the situation I mentioned: "Opening the transfer portal before the season is over is dumb and destructive. I have yet to see good justification for it."

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2025, 09:40:01 AMPower Conference coaches fear the Big East has a major advantage, one that Shaka won't leverage with the retention, but they fear football schools can't compete with the Big East.

(Also calling the Big East a mid major is funny.)

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1904882033203040459?t=Jot03iIggSpQX2hlduX1zg&s=19

Shaka won't leverage this? He's holding back money and/or overpaying for loyalty?  Great to hear...

When I've talked to former players who know this area they swear guys like Kolek and Kam were getting over a million, and MU needed deep pockets to keep them (especially Kam).  If MU has a spending advantage 2x of SEC schools Shaka will take advantage of it...but MU won't have that advantage and everyone realizes that.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 26, 2025, 09:40:01 AMPower Conference coaches fear the Big East has a major advantage, one that Shaka won't leverage with the retention, but they fear football schools can't compete with the Big East.

(Also calling the Big East a mid major is funny.)

https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1904882033203040459?t=Jot03iIggSpQX2hlduX1zg&s=19

I can't wait to see how the NCAA does/doesn't enforce "market value" NIL deals.

Middle Tennessee State is gonna get hammered with violations

Quote from: avid1010 on March 27, 2025, 05:39:52 AMShaka won't leverage this? He's holding back money and/or overpaying for loyalty?  Great to hear...

When I've talked to former players who know this area they swear guys like Kolek and Kam were getting over a million, and MU needed deep pockets to keep them (especially Kam).  If MU has a spending advantage 2x of SEC schools Shaka will take advantage of it...but MU won't have that advantage and everyone realizes that.

LOL. Over a million? Laughable

Quote from: forgetful on March 26, 2025, 09:01:38 PMMy criticism is completely from an academics perspective. Athletes are already often restricted on what Major's they are allowed to pursue.

When they transfer, often many of their classes do not transfer over to a major at the new school, which sets them back even further. That leads to it almost being impossible to graduate with a good degree.

And they are transferring for immediate financial reasons. The consequences are that athletes, most of whom will never make anything playing professionally after school, are preyed upon by agents, and schools, who leave them ultimately with no marketable degree,

In many cases, these changes are not benefitting the athletes long term.

Maybe in football but student-athletes are not that restricted in their "Major's" as the anti-athletics administrators and wing of the media want you to believe.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 27, 2025, 09:44:56 AMMaybe in football but student-athletes are not that restricted in their "Major's" as the anti-athletics administrators and wing of the media want you to believe.

Fake news media got everyone again.

Quote from: 79Warrior on March 27, 2025, 09:35:45 AMLOL. Over a million? Laughable

You have no f'ing clue what you are talking about.  My sources are pretty decent...former player that is around NIL and former player that is around recruits.  Kam closer to $2 million than $1 million.
 
Heck, I just did a Google search, and while I would agree it's hard for anyone to know... https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/nil-news/men-s-college-basketball-top-5-highest-nil-earners-this-season

There is another wrinkle to this. It is the school/collective using connections to get X player a deal that the collective does not pay for. Think Flagg and the ATT commercials he is on. Think Kam and the soda commercials he does or the insoles.

Duke's collective has money to pay people. What is more powerful is the connections Duke has with brands and the ability to get stars on TV etc.

I also have connections and I have heard Kam was somewhere around 1.5-2M. And much of that is not necessarily coming from the collective, but his Soda deals and other deals he has. Yes, Kam made NIL money from signing gear, making appearances at pop a shot etc. But he made much more with his soda and other national type ads. 

Quote from: MUbiz on March 27, 2025, 11:27:17 AMThere is another wrinkle to this. It is the school/collective using connections to get X player a deal that the collective does not pay for. Think Flagg and the ATT commercials he is on. Think Kam and the soda commercials he does or the insoles.

Duke's collective has money to pay people. What is more powerful is the connections Duke has with brands and the ability to get stars on TV etc.

I also have connections and I have heard Kam was somewhere around 1.5-2M. And much of that is not necessarily coming from the collective, but his Soda deals and other deals he has. Yes, Kam made NIL money from signing gear, making appearances at pop a shot etc. But he made much more with his soda and other national type ads. 

That is my understanding as well.  After his sophomore year Kam was offered big $ elsewhere, but MU connections came through.

Have a friend who's son was player of the year in a low mid-major conference.  He was actually worth more after his sophomore year than his junior year.  His coach's words were proven guys with 2 years left are worth more than gold.  It's interesting to see the  different paths programs are taking with NIL.  I like what Shaka is doing.

This is where the power of conference should step in.  We can match Duke's connections if the Big East worked to do so for their most marketable players. 

There is a lot of opportunity that we can leverage here....bigger isnt better necessarily for these conferences.

Quote from: avid1010 on March 27, 2025, 11:38:50 AMThat is my understanding as well.  After his sophomore year Kam was offered big $ elsewhere, but MU connections came through.

Have a friend who's son was player of the year in a low mid-major conference.  He was actually worth more after his sophomore year than his junior year.  His coach's words were proven guys with 2 years left are worth more than gold.  It's interesting to see the  different paths programs are taking with NIL.  I like what Shaka is doing.

That makes total sense - the more years you have left, the better.  I like what Shaka is doing as well. I know people on the forum talk about throwing bags at people etc. The truth of it is MUBB and the collective have great connections and funding. Are we ever going to be BYU throwing 7 mil at a high school kid? No. But are we competitive in the NIL landscape? You bet we are.

I am even more curious to see how MUBB does with the settlement that is happening early April. TBD on that.