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Marquette
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Marquette vs
Xavier
Date/Time: Mar 13, 2025 1:30pm
TV: Peacock
Schedule for 2024-25
St. John's
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MUfan12

Yeah, he came in and was completely overwhelmed in the game against MU.

wisblue

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 15, 2025, 01:27:48 PMYou didn't answer my question. Now if they win today it's a moot point but there are a number of teams with better resumes.  Including Marquette.

Your bias is really showing if you think MU has a better resume.


The Sultan

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 15, 2025, 01:44:24 PMYeah, he came in and was completely overwhelmed in the game against MU.

Shhhh...

Don't interrupt the narrative.
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HutchwasClutch

#53
Quote from: bradforster on February 15, 2025, 01:26:52 PMThis statement is incorrect.  The chairman of the committee confirmed MU is knocking on the door of the top 16.  Marquette is 16 or 17 and has a rematch with St John's.  MU also has a better non conference resume.

Well that's so reassuring.  Because we're trending badly and the committee does not think highly of the BE.  They've put themselves in a precarious position. 

And they aren't "16 or 17".  STJ is 16. 

wisblue

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 15, 2025, 01:23:34 PMI don't quite see how it's possible for the committee to remain unbiased (ie the chairman being the AD of bubble team UNC). The chair even tried to make a joke where he couldn't even say Duke's name. I think that was supposed to be funny, but it completely missed the mark with me and reminded me of how much politics are involved in the selection process.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought the Duke-UNC thing was awkward and inappropriate.

Even though committee members essentially recuse themselves from discussions involving their teams and conferences, I have trouble believing that the members don't give some deference on a close call to the teams of the other members

wisblue

Quote from: The Sultan on February 15, 2025, 01:47:36 PMShhhh...

Don't interrupt the narrative.

Maybe that's a freshman who has gotten more comfortable since early December.

They lost one of their best shooters to a questionable flagrant 2 call and this back end of the bench player steps right in.

Zog from Margo


Uncle Rico

Quote from: wisblue on February 15, 2025, 02:09:24 PMMaybe that's a freshman who has gotten more comfortable since early December.

They lost one of their best shooters to a questionable flagrant 2 call and this back end of the bench player steps right in.

No, he sucks
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wadesworld

Are the people who are freaking out that Wisconsin just beat a team Marquette beat and might get to play in Milwaukee the same people who were freaking out at the possibility of Gard getting canned because Shaka might want to head home?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on February 15, 2025, 02:15:41 PMAre the people who are freaking out that Wisconsin just beat a team Marquette beat and might get to play in Milwaukee the same people who were freaking out at the possibility of Gard getting canned because Shaka might want to head home?

The same people that freak out when Marquette is losing 2-0 in a game
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brewcity77

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 15, 2025, 12:18:50 PMIf big wins matter that much, then how the hell is St. John's in and MU not? Same with UW being a 3?

Love that they seeded Kansas a 4 and left MSU out, but St. John's best win is at home vs. NET 23 MU. UW has 1 good win against AZ and a bunch of schitty Q1s against non tournament teams. Makes no sense to me.

Head to head win over Marquette, presumed Big East champion, ranked ahead of Marquette in 5/7 metrics. St. John's also has no losses outside Q1 while we have two. Big wins matter, but they aren't the only thing that matters.
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The Sultan

Quote from: wisblue on February 15, 2025, 02:09:24 PMMaybe that's a freshman who has gotten more comfortable since early December.

They lost one of their best shooters to a questionable flagrant 2 call and this back end of the bench player steps right in.

Or maybe he just got hot for a game. He hadn't scored in three of his previous four games.

Or maybe Marquette's a better defensive team than Purdue.

And this is about a guy who you implied you never heard of until today. And now you're some kind of expert.

But I guess our resident Eeyore's gotta Eeyore.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on February 15, 2025, 02:18:45 PMOr maybe he just got hot for a game. He hadn't scored in three of his previous four games.

Or maybe Marquette's a better defensive team than Purdue.

And this is about a guy who you implied you never heard of until today. And now you're some kind of expert.

But I guess our resident Eeyore's gotta Eeyore.

He's playing better than Cam
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The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2025, 02:21:56 PMHe's playing better than Cam

Well Gard's simply a better coach than Shaka. He just gets it done.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 15, 2025, 12:32:17 PMWe'd be higher if Cam was playing better and Parnham was banging down low
And Ramsey didn't transfer.
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Uncle Rico

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Newsdreams

Goal is National Championship
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Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

mileskishnish72

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 15, 2025, 12:21:20 PMWatching this game.  Can't believe we beat either of these teams. They would crush us if we played now.

Was tempted to post the same, almost verbatim, but was too lazy.
The motion, screens, and ball movement were impressive and these are things we just don't seem to be able to do.

Newsdreams

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on February 15, 2025, 02:41:56 PMWas tempted to post the same, almost verbatim, but was too lazy.
The motion, screens, and ball movement were impressive and these are things we just don't seem to be able to do.

MU suxs
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MU82

Watching Providence-Villanova. Can't believe we dominated either of these teams. They would crush us if we played now.

Watching Seton Hall-UConn. Can't believe we easy won at Seton Hall. They would crush us if we played now.
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wisblue

Quote from: The Sultan on February 15, 2025, 02:18:45 PMOr maybe he just got hot for a game. He hadn't scored in three of his previous four games.

Or maybe Marquette's a better defensive team than Purdue.

And this is about a guy who you implied you never heard of until today. And now you're some kind of expert.

But I guess our resident Eeyore's gotta Eeyore.

I didn't claim to be an expert on this guy, which is why I used the word "maybe". I had never heard of him before but I was able to look up his game by game record.

Maybe he was just lucky to get hot for one game, or maybe he has gotten more comfortable in 10 weeks than he was in early December and was able to take minutes that McGee would have filled and make a positive contribution.

Either way, only a Magoo would deny that the Badgers are a dramatically better 3 point shooting team than Marquette is, and that in this era of college basketball that is a huge asset that can erase other deficiencies.

Nobody in their right mind would have said last February that Wisconsin was a better team than Marquette, even though the Badgers won the head to head game decisively much earlier in the season.

Only a Magoo would use only the early season head to head game this year to decide which is the better team right now.


willie warrior

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 15, 2025, 10:44:26 AMParrish has us in at #16. He seems to be the one that's most high on MU.
MU does not deserve that ranking, especially over last 4 weeks. Clearly, Shaka has to do some heavy lifting, none of which has happened recently. Wrong time of year to be playing poorly.
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HowardsWorld

The problem is that none of the next 4 games on maquettes schedule will help there resume. Hell, I'm not sure winning at Uconn will help the resume all that much anymore outside of having one less loss. At this point I think the ceiling for this team is a 4 seed but most likely a 5. I think a 3 would require winning out and winning the BET along with help from teams ahead.

Marquette hasn't played a good game since @Providence last month. Even the win against Depaul was pretty bad. We might need to just accept that they were probably overrated much of the non conference.

brewcity77

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 16, 2025, 06:46:46 AMThe problem is that none of the next 4 games on maquettes schedule will help there resume. Hell, I'm not sure winning at Uconn will help the resume all that much anymore outside of having one less loss. At this point I think the ceiling for this team is a 4 seed but most likely a 5. I think a 3 would require winning out and winning the BET along with help from teams ahead.

I address this in the article I just posted. I think a 4 is pretty realistic (we're one spot outside of that now) but getting a 3 likely means our Q1 record getting a few games above .500 (5-4 right now, 3 opportunities left) and improving our metrics inside the top-20 (20.7 average currently).

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 16, 2025, 06:46:46 AMMarquette hasn't played a good game since @Providence last month. Even the win against Depaul was pretty bad. We might need to just accept that they were probably overrated much of the non conference.

This I feel is the bigger problem. I don't think we were overrated, but Kam was playing at a much higher level. Further, the shooting that tends to come around in mid-January never came around so our offense never hit that next gear. I don't know if we will get back to the level of play we had the first six weeks of the season. If we do, we can absolutely climb back up the S-Curve, but if not, we'll all be hoping they maybe catch fire once they get to the tournament. I can't argue with anyone that feels a bit bleak at the moment.
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