When I coached, I could always a trace a straight line from problem kids to their parents.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 29, 2025, 07:45:55 PMDoom:  My son got into UW.

I assume there's a MU support group for this sort of issue.

Not uncommon. More of my Marquette friend's kids have gone to UW than to Marquette. Including multiple graduates of MUHS. 

Public flagships have large classes and draw really good students.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 29, 2025, 07:45:55 PMDoom:  My son got into UW.

I assume there's a MU support group for this sort of issue.

I got into UW as well.  The good news is he can choose to not go there!

I got into Michigan and ND.  I chose MU.

The Last Days of American Orange Juice
Savor every last drop.

By Yasmin Tayag

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/02/american-orange-juice-crash/681566/

....citrus greening...

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 12, 2025, 07:35:39 PMThe Last Days of American Orange Juice
Savor every last drop.

By Yasmin Tayag

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/02/american-orange-juice-crash/681566/

....citrus greening...

Its a brutal situation, and its been in the works for years.  I worked for Tropicana a decade ago and the orange growers were already neck deep in chaos about it.  That 8 year grow cycle makes things incredibly challenging even without greening.  I remember driving through an orchard for the first time and seeing rows of what looked like fully mature trees and being told they were still 3-4 years away from producing anything.  And being blown away by the contingency planning needed if God forbid you lost chunks of immature seedlings.

Trop50 was the big focus product at the time for us.  Touted because it was 50% less sugar.  But the appeal was two fold, cause it was basically just OJ diluted in half with water...thus you could stretch your original juice much farther.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 12, 2025, 10:14:40 PM

Tang time!

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 12, 2025, 07:35:39 PMThe Last Days of American Orange Juice
Savor every last drop.

By Yasmin Tayag

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/02/american-orange-juice-crash/681566/

....citrus greening...

And since 2019, the price of concentrate has increased by about 80 percent.

Damn Duke Brothers cornering the market

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 29, 2025, 07:45:55 PMDoom:  My son got into UW.

I assume there's a MU support group for this sort of issue.

I think the support group is just comparing the size of the tuition check you'd have to write every semester.

Seriously though, Madison is an excellent school and I would imagine a fun place to go to college. My niece got into U of Chicago but decided she wanted the Big Ten sports experience in addition to strong academics (and her parents the lower tuition bill) and went to Michigan. She was not an athlete in HS but is always posting pics from football and hockey games now.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 13, 2025, 10:10:17 AMSeriously though, Madison is an excellent school and I would imagine a fun place to go to college. My niece got into U of Chicago but decided she wanted the Big Ten sports experience in addition to strong academics (and her parents the lower tuition bill) and went to Michigan. She was not an athlete in HS but is always posting pics from football and hockey games now.

I shocked anyone goes to U of C that isn't solely and narrowly academically focused.  My cousin went there, chose it over NW, a few Ivies, and Stanford (as one with a perfect SAT does)...and regretted it wholeheartedly.  He said it often felt like a social life was an extracurricular that many of his peers opted out of pursuing.

Quote from: JWags85 on February 13, 2025, 11:10:51 AMI shocked anyone goes to U of C that isn't solely and narrowly academically focused.  My cousin went there, chose it over NW, a few Ivies, and Stanford (as one with a perfect SAT does)...and regretted it wholeheartedly.  He said it often felt like a social life was an extracurricular that many of his peers opted out of pursuing.

She toured NW at my urging (campus, elite academics, Big Ten sports) and didn't like it. She mentioned she didn't like the vibe from the students. To each their own. She's loving UM so I'm happy for her.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 13, 2025, 11:19:57 AMShe toured NW at my urging (campus, elite academics, Big Ten sports) and didn't like it. She mentioned she didn't like the vibe from the students. To each their own. She's loving UM so I'm happy for her.

We rated NW as the worst tour we took our kids on. The guide acted as if we should be thrilled for them to even bother to point out the exteriors of the three buildings they pointed to.

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 13, 2025, 11:42:30 AMWe rated NW as the worst tour we took our kids on. The guide acted as if we should be thrilled for them to even bother to point out the exteriors of the three buildings they pointed to.

Vanderbilt was like that for us.

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 13, 2025, 11:42:30 AMWe rated NW as the worst tour we took our kids on. The guide acted as if we should be thrilled for them to even bother to point out the exteriors of the three buildings they pointed to.

That was my experience at UM, ND, Depauw.  The opposite of my experience at MU.

since people are talking college tours, I have to share my craziest one.

I had a D2 program reach out to me for tennis (my other contacts had been from D3 schools so this was pretty cool) and I took an unofficial visit with my dad in the fall of my senior year, 1993. Why not, right? It was a couple hour drive for us. As a PSA they have an attractive and ditzy girl to show us around. She's stopping occasionally to talk to friends and discuss bombing an exam earlier in the day which we thought was odd. She takes us by the upperclassmen campus apartments where her boyfriend lives and it's a total dump (empty pizza boxes, cigarette butts in ashtrays, etc). We asked her "why she chose that school and she responded, "when I was in high school I had big hair and since the buildings here are all connected by skywalks I knew my hair wouldn't get messed up." And that was the end of that tour.

A few weeks later one of my dad's partners asked where I was looking and said "tell him to take a look at Marquette, that's where I did my undergrad." We did a tour at the end of December and the rest is history.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 13, 2025, 11:19:57 AMShe toured NW at my urging (campus, elite academics, Big Ten sports) and didn't like it. She mentioned she didn't like the vibe from the students. To each their own. She's loving UM so I'm happy for her.

Living and working in Chicago for a decade in my 20s and 30s, I met a ton of relatively recent NW grads, and it was a total spectrum.  Some of the cooler ones actually were in a similar decision tree as your daughter but liked proximity to Chicago/being on the lake compared to Ann Arbor.

But man, I know exactly the vibe you speak of.  I worked with not one, not two, but close to a half dozen Kellogg MBAs who also went to NW undergrad that called themselves "double purples".  They were as obnoxious and pretentious about it as that sounded.  One specifically moved to Paris to work for a big CPG post-college.  Spoke fluent French, was still an obsessive Francophile that went at least twice a year.  Ok fine, not crazy. But then it gets weird.  She decided to get an MBA, got admitted to Sorbonne fully funded by her employer.  But instead went back to Kellogg and did her time in one of their US offices after graduating cause she "couldn't bear to turn her back on Evanston/NW" and didn't know how anyone could.  I can only imagine how turned off an 18 year old would be talking to her about the school, or even a 22 year old version of her.

Another tried to make a push to stop recruiting MBAs from Ross (when Ross was one of 4-5 focus schools for MBA recruiting at the time) cause they should be more focused on Kellogg.

Quote from: JWags85 on February 13, 2025, 01:08:35 PMLiving and working in Chicago for a decade in my 20s and 30s, I met a ton of relatively recent NW grads, and it was a total spectrum.  Some of the cooler ones actually were in a similar decision tree as your daughter but liked proximity to Chicago/being on the lake compared to Ann Arbor.

But man, I know exactly the vibe you speak of.  I worked with not one, not two, but close to a half dozen Kellogg MBAs who also went to NW undergrad that called themselves "double purples".  They were as obnoxious and pretentious about it as that sounded. One specifically moved to Paris to work for a big CPG post-college.  Spoke fluent French, was still an obsessive Francophile that went at least twice a year.  Ok fine, not crazy. But then it gets weird.  She decided to get an MBA, got admitted to Sorbonne fully funded by her employer.  But instead went back to Kellogg and did her time in one of their US offices after graduating cause she "couldn't bear to turn her back on Evanston/NW" and didn't know how anyone could.  I can only imagine how turned off an 18 year old would be talking to her about the school, or even a 22 year old version of her.

Another tried to make a push to stop recruiting MBAs from Ross (when Ross was one of 4-5 focus schools for MBA recruiting at the time) cause they should be more focused on Kellogg.

"That's more important to you than it is to anyone else you've ever met."

Anyone else excited to play Doom: The Dark Ages in May?

Quote from: Shaka Shart on February 16, 2025, 03:26:01 PMAnyone else excited to play Doom: The Dark Ages in May?

I think we're playing now?

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 17, 2025, 05:19:40 AMI think we're playing now?

Wow, beta tester? Lucky!

I needed calcs on a simple project, 47 years, $3.4m a year, increased by 3% per year.

I asked SIX different AIs, copy and pasting the prompt and got SIX different answers, each tens of millions of dollars off. -- I'm really surprised not one of them had the same answer.

Looks like replacing humans with AI is off to a great start.

#AIDoom.

Like alternative facts, it's alternative math. Pick the answer that is most advantageous to you and insist it's correct, and don't let reality get in your way. Soon you'll be a billionaire.

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 18, 2025, 08:06:50 AMLike alternative facts, it's alternative math. Pick the answer that is most advantageous to you and insist it's correct, and don't let reality get in your way. Soon you'll be a billionaire.

I do that with Marquette players all the time.