Quote from: NCMUFan on February 08, 2025, 03:54:39 PMHopefully the younger guys keep getting minutes and keep improving.

You can see it coming.

You can only take so many developmental players and still afford yourself the opportunity to play for a Big East title and a national championship.

Probably should not have taken Clark and instead tried to find a contributor who can diminish or eliminate your flaws if you are not going to boot anyone.

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 03:46:57 PMEvery team is flawed.  The overcoming is the magic.

Plus, the offseason school of thought by the scoop intelligentsia (not me) was that Sean would return.

The scholarships were spoken for when Clark signed.  Nobody left.

THERE WAS NO OPENING TO BRING ANYONE IN AFTER CLARK SIGNED.

Shaka isn't going to boot anybody. 

Math.

Clark signed later so Shaka obviously took a close look at players available in the Portal and decided none were a good fit (and probably demanded too much money), so it isn't like Shaka couldn't sign someone before he signed Clark. From what we saw from Kam when Kolek was out it was pretty clear he could play the 1.

I'll say it again

Kam
Zaide
Damarius
Joplin
Royce

was fun to watch! I think had Chase not been dumb today it would have been

Kam
Chase
Zaide
Jop
Royce

May be the lineup with the highest ceiling.

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 03:54:35 PMUConn is UConn.  Xavier was the one I didn't see coming.

None of us saw them getting Freemantle back. They'd be really dangerous if Traore hadn't gotten hurt before the season. We dodged a bullet playing them at Cintas without Freemantle.

Quote from: Big Papi on February 08, 2025, 03:55:14 PMYou can only take so many developmental players and still afford yourself the opportunity to play for a Big East title and a national championship.

Probably should not have taken Clark and instead tried to find a contributor who can diminish or eliminate your flaws if you are not going to boot anyone.

They are all developmental players.  Like Kolek, Oso, Omax, Kam, Stevie.  Every player who has ever come to MU was a developmental player.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 08, 2025, 03:51:26 PMPrayers? Those were all good shots. Kickout to Kalk for a wide open three, Neal with a step back he'd been measuring up off the dribble, Ashworth faking out two defenders with a jab step dribble. They made the shots when they needed to, we did not. Ball game.

I think anyone lives with Kalk taking a 3 in a 1 possession game. Neal's wasn't a prayer? The career 28% three point shooter shot a step back 3 with 6'10" Parham in his jersey, then hit a fading baseline 13 footer with Lowery in his jersey the next possession. Complete prayers.

Why are we still talking about not talking transfers?  Shaka's philosophy is pretty clear on that.  For everyone complaining about that approach it's also the reason we still have Kam. 

Get a grip.

Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2025, 03:57:43 PMI think anyone lives with Kalk taking a 3 in a 1 possession game. Neal's wasn't a prayer? He shot a step back 3 with 6'10" Parham in his jersey, then hit a fading baseline 13 footer with Lowery in his jersey the next possession. Complete prayers.

Neal shots were tough.

Kudos to him for hitting those.

We didn't have anyone hit those toe of shots in those situations in awhile.

Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2025, 03:57:43 PMI think anyone lives with Kalk taking a 3 in a 1 possession game. Neal's wasn't a prayer? He shot a step back 3 with 6'10" Parham in his jersey, then hit a fading baseline 13 footer with Lowery in his jersey the next possession. Complete prayers.

a prayer is Kam's three at the end of the half. Kalk has range, 40.5% from three on the season, he was wide open and had a chance to get set. Neal was measuring that shot up and got himself room. He also created that 13 footer with his drive and looked determined to put it up; it was no more a "prayer" than Kam's shots over an outstretched Kalk in his face.

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 03:51:36 PMI am enjoying the development of the young guys.  I have not given up on this season (18-6. Really?) and am looking forward to next season, too.

18-6 when you were 18-3 isn't really that great of thing but I get what ur saying

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 03:55:08 PMYou can see it coming.

If any of the juniors, sophomores or freshman are back next year, this team won't make double digit wins

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 08, 2025, 03:58:41 PMWhy are we still talking about not talking transfers?  Shaka's philosophy is pretty clear on that.  For everyone complaining about that approach it's also the reason we still have Kam. 

Get a grip.

So we can't be disappointed.
We can't vent.
Everything is rosy.
Shaka can't do anything wrong.
No point in debating anything.

Got it.

Thanks for putting me in my place and telling me to get a grip.

I appreciate it.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 08, 2025, 03:58:41 PMWhy are we still talking about not talking transfers?  Shaka's philosophy is pretty clear on that.  For everyone complaining about that approach it's also the reason we still have Kam. 

Get a grip.

First day on scoop?

Another thing Shaka said after SJU was that, because of the way MU does things, the bench is always going to be young.  Nobody listens.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 08, 2025, 04:02:33 PMa prayer is Kam's three at the end of the half. Kalk has range, 40.5% from three on the season, he was wide open and had a chance to get set. Neal was measuring that shot up and got himself room. He also created that 13 footer with his drive and looked determined to put it up; it was no more a "prayer" than Kam's shots over an outstretched Kalk in his face.

I'll go ahead and stick to a 28% three point shooter making a miracle step back 3 with Royce defending it as well as you can a prayer. Just because someone "measures up" a horrible shot doesn't mean it's a good shot. They hit their prayers down the stretch. Much like Jop's prayer went unanswered on a horrible possession down the stretch. He measured it up. It was still a horrendous shot, and would've been a minor miracle had it gone in.

Quote from: The Sultan on February 08, 2025, 03:19:26 PMSince neither one of you can manage your emotions when things go bad, maybe you should find something else to do with your time then. Why watch sports if it doesn't entertain you?

I enjoyed their comeback. Too bad they couldn't finish it. It happens.

Be sure to take advice about how to spend your time from a guy who spends his going back through game threads two days after the game.

Quote from: Big Papi on February 08, 2025, 04:04:17 PMSo we can't be disappointed.
We can't vent.
Everything is rosy.
Shaka can't do anything wrong.
No point in debating anything.

Got it.

Thanks for putting me in my place and telling me to get a grip.

I appreciate it.

Are you a parody account or am I supposed to take this post seriously?  Because I said none of that nor should any of it be inferred. 

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 04:04:55 PMFirst day on scoop?

Another thing Shaka said after SJU was that, because of the way MU does things, the bench is always going to be young.  Nobody listens.

Would be nice if people listened (and thought) more. 

This was always a schedule loss. Whatever. Season moves on.

Big Papi, you have been here since the beginning.  So you should know better.  When has there not been this back and forth after losses?  These arguments happened after losses by Crean, Buzz, Wojo, Shaka.  It is the essence of scoop.  You have been around too long to be offended by being disagreed with.

So vent.  Complain.  Blame the coach.  Own it. Defend it. 

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 04:08:58 PMBig Papi, you have been here since the beginning.  So you should know better.  When has there not been this back and forth after losses?  These arguments happened after losses by Crean, Buzz, Wojo, Shaka.  It is the essence of scoop.  You have been around too long to be offended by being disagreed with.

So vent.  Complain.  Blame the coach.  Own it. Defend it.

I didn't even quote the dude.  It was a general comment but the fact he took exceptions says a lot.

Just didn't know we can never question Shaka and his portal philosophy at any point in time.  Thank you for helping me get a grip.

On the positive side our rebounding was much improved.

Quote from: tower912 on February 08, 2025, 03:57:31 PMThey are all developmental players.  Like Kolek, Oso, Omax, Kam, Stevie.  Every player who has ever come to MU was a developmental player.

Yes they are all developmental players but we have Al, Clark and Hamilton not contributing on the court.

Kolek, Kam, Omax and Stevie all contributed year one on the court.

Quote from: nyg on February 08, 2025, 03:26:17 PMUconn game:  Johnson 13 pts, 4 rebounds. Gold zero points, zero rebounds
SJU game:    Zuby 13 points, 13 rebounds. Gold 2 points, zero rebounds
CU game:    Kalk 19 points, 7 rebounds.  Gold zero points, 2 rebounds.

He did not score in Butler game, but had 7 rebounds.  So, in last four games, has only made one shot, a layup.  But, today, he saw minimal minutes, maybe like 10 total, with Parham getting his minutes.  After Uconn game, Shaka said he is NOT injured, but Shaka did not like matchups.  Tough goings for Gold lately.

Shin splints is not an injury, Stevie's ankle tendonitis is not an injury. Painful conditions that limit your play / playing time.

Big Papi, you can question anything you want.   We all can and are actually doing so nonstop. Just like we questioned Crean's ability to recruit bigs, Buzz's reliance on juco's, everything about Wojo.  Shaka has answered the question and explained his philosophy better than any scooper can.  And maybe it ends up being the millstone that turns fans against him.
  So, question away.  But if you pay attention, you already know the answer.  You just may not agree with it.