Quote from: wadesworld on January 20, 2025, 08:05:15 PMDixon is playing a lot better than Kam in Big East games.

As long as Kam picks it back up and Marquette keeps winning, there should be no debate. Plenty of production left to be had in 13 games.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 20, 2025, 08:00:59 PMNo chance.

If we had to watch Markus lose a POY to Myles Powell because Seton Hall won more...then absolutely not. They lose a lot of games because Dixon does nothing but chuck shots.

Kam produces more points and contributes more to a Top 10 team.

Any evidence that the bolded was the reason?

I think Johnny B and Wadesworld are right as of today. Dixon is better so far this season. We all hope that Kam wins BE POY, but the W/L record of Marquette or Villanova is not a factor as far as I know. If this is not the case, someone please let me know.

Death, taxes, and Neptune finding a way to fail...

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 20, 2025, 08:27:50 PMAny evidence that the bolded was the reason?

I think Johnny B and Wadesworld are right as of today. Dixon is better so far this season. We all hope that Kam wins BE POY, but the W/L record of Marquette or Villanova is not a factor as far as I know. If this is not the case, someone please let me know.

Markus had 806 points and 95 assists shooting 41% from 3.

Myles Powell had 589 points and 81 assists shooting 30% from 3.

That's pretty good evidence that more winning matters.

Quote from: CountryRoads on January 20, 2025, 07:19:16 PMUgh now Nova will be extra angry when we play them this week! But that's not a good loss for Neptune..

Now I'm concerned

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 20, 2025, 08:36:52 PMMarkus had 806 points and 95 assists shooting 41% from 3.

Myles Powell had 589 points and 81 assists shooting 30% from 3.

That's pretty good evidence that more winning matters.

No, it is not! Do you know what the factors were or not? My guess is that you don't know. Was it strange? Hell yes!  That does not mean it was because of the W/L records of the two teams. It was not a TOY (team of the year)) award, it was a POY award. Expecting scoopers to take something as factual just because you said it is Muggsy's M.O.

If someone who actually knows how the choice was made comes forth and supports your statement, then I will walk it back.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 20, 2025, 08:00:59 PMNo chance.

If we had to watch Markus lose a POY to Myles Powell because Seton Hall won more...then absolutely not. They lose a lot of games because Dixon does nothing but chuck shots.

Kam produces more points and contributes more to a Top 10 team.

Kolek lost it last year, and nobody from UConn or Creighton got it. I think the winning is less emphasized than we think

The coaches vote. It's whatever criteria they want it to be. Winning might be important to some and less so to others. Trying to pin down the exact criteria is impossible

Quote from: MU90620 on January 21, 2025, 11:06:34 AMThe coaches vote. It's whatever criteria they want it to be. Winning might be important to some and less so to others. Trying to pin down the exact criteria is impossible

Exactly! It's OK to speculate-which is what I am about to do-but I suspect defensive performance is a large part of it to coaches. Inability of opponents to take the POY out of his game may be another.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 21, 2025, 11:00:27 AMKolek lost it last year, and nobody from UConn or Creighton got it. I think the winning is less emphasized than we think

Kolek didn't play the last 7 games of the season. He was never going to win it that way. He would have walked into that award had he not missed 30-35% of the Conference season.

GE03: It's BS that Markus was a clearly better player than Powell but Powell won BEPOY because his team was better.

Also GE03: I don't care that Dixon has been clearly the better basketball player this year, if we keep winning Kam should win BEPOY.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 21, 2025, 03:55:13 PMGE03: It's BS that Markus was a clearly better player than Powell but Powell won BEPOY because his team was better.

Also GE03: I don't care that Dixon has been clearly the better basketball player this year, if we keep winning Kam should win BEPOY.

I'm just pointing out how they've voted in the past...and if they change it up now, yes it is BS.

Where you are wrong is the last part. Kam produces more points than Dixon. I don't think Dixon has been a clearly better player. Kam has more of an impact on the game and impact towards winning.

https://x.com/BanteredB_/status/1881869457712406555?t=TIX_iOW1FtQK2Slfm8qMPQ&s=19

He isn't wrong.

UConn and Butler tied at 68, under a minute left

Tied with Butler at home with 57 seconds left

Sure looked off UCONN from the side angle.

Jesus NMD might not even be a top 25 match up

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2025, 08:03:26 PMUConn and Butler tied at 68, under a minute left

UConn suxs

Quote from: Johnny B on January 21, 2025, 08:14:41 PMJesus NMD might not even be a top 25 match up

Jesus NMD is a helluva rapper, even if he's too woke.

Marquette and StJ are 7-1, b2b National Champ UConn is 6-2.

None of the teams have played each other yet.

Marquette hosts UConn on 2/1 for NMD. MU at StJ 2/4. StJ at UConn 2/7.

Then this repeats to end the season.

Kudos to the BE, you nailed the scheduling here.

PS, Marquette has UConn, @StJ, @Creighton in 1 week from 2/1-2/8

GiddyUp!

But first, beats Villanova and Butler

Quote from: DoctorV on January 21, 2025, 09:50:36 PMMarquette and StJ are 7-1, b2b National Champ UConn is 6-2.

None of the teams have played each other yet.

Marquette hosts UConn on 2/1 for NMD. MU at StJ 2/4. StJ at UConn 2/7.

Then this repeats to end the season.

Kudos to the BE, you nailed the scheduling here.

PS, Marquette has UConn, @StJ, @Creighton in 1 week from 2/1-2/8

GiddyUp!

But first, beats Villanova and Butler

Creighton has as good a chance as any to win the league. They only have 2 league losses.

They play Marquette, UConn, and St. Johns one more time each...if you group those 4 teams Marquette, UConn and St. Johns have 5 remaining (each) against the grouping.

DePaul with 3 starters combining for 1 pt. Oooofffff

Quote from: 1SE on Today at 03:47:58 AMDePaul with 3 starters combining for 1 pt. Oooofffff

Sleeping Giant

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 21, 2025, 10:53:49 PMCreighton has as good a chance as any to win the league.

No they don't.