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The Sultan

UConn isn't going to leave unless it is for a P4 invite. Which very likely means they don't leave anytime soon. Either it will be when the ACC falls apart...IF they fall apart...or it will be when something about the College Football Playoff fundamentally changes. Neither of these are going to happen in the short-term IMO.

And if UConn does leave, they leave. They have done good work for the Big East and have been a fun conference colleague. At this point they have been in the New Big East longer than Marquette was in the MCC, so who are we to throw stones?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 16, 2025, 04:10:54 PMIf I recall....it was the Big 12's network partner that indicated they would not come up with any more money for the addition of UCONN. I may be mistaken, but I think that's what shut it down before it came to a B12 presidents' vote.
I think that sums it up.

manny31

Isn't there an exit fee for UCONN if they want to leave the B-East? I thought there was?

Goatherder

Quote from: manny31 on January 16, 2025, 07:19:14 PMIsn't there an exit fee for UCONN if they want to leave the B-East? I thought there was?

When UConn joined, there was a huge exit fee in the agreement, something like $30 million, but declining over a ten year period or something like that.  Of course, if the got an invite from a major conference, it may well be worth it to jump.  Cal and Stanford joined the ACC agreeing to a smaller revenue share.  SMU agreed to none at all for five years or so.  As time goes on, the exit fee might not be much of a factor.  That seems fair enough.  If UConn wants to leave after five or ten years, Godspeed and thanks for the natties.  If they stick around, they are a valued member of the conference, even if they do not fit the profile of the other schools.  I wonder what UConn fans think about playing Creighton, Butler and Xavier.  They have enough games against Marquette from the past Big East to create some history.  The new entries do not look like the conference they originally joined. 

rgoode57

What's wrong with UConn playing Butler, X, and Creighton? No different than Kansas playing UCF, Oregon State, or Cincinnati.

The Sultan

Quote from: Goatherder on January 16, 2025, 10:56:29 PMWhen UConn joined, there was a huge exit fee in the agreement, something like $30 million, but declining over a ten year period or something like that.  Of course, if the got an invite from a major conference, it may well be worth it to jump.  Cal and Stanford joined the ACC agreeing to a smaller revenue share.  SMU agreed to none at all for five years or so.  As time goes on, the exit fee might not be much of a factor.  That seems fair enough.  If UConn wants to leave after five or ten years, Godspeed and thanks for the natties.  If they stick around, they are a valued member of the conference, even if they do not fit the profile of the other schools.  I wonder what UConn fans think about playing Creighton, Butler and Xavier.  They have enough games against Marquette from the past Big East to create some history.  The new entries do not look like the conference they originally joined. 

They joined it willingly.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: manny31 on January 16, 2025, 07:19:14 PMIsn't there an exit fee for UCONN if they want to leave the B-East? I thought there was?

Of course, but when has UCONN ever let a minor issue like mere millions influence their decisions? Football drives the bus, and their ROI on it alone has been mindboggling. Massive amount of money spent on FB. And what do they have to show for it? I think that if they get an offer from a P4, they will take it regardless of the costs involved. State universities can do that. 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 17, 2025, 09:44:56 AMOf course, but when has UCONN ever let a minor issue like mere millions influence their decisions? Football drives the bus, and their ROI on it alone has been mindboggling. Massive amount of money spent on FB. And what do they have to show for it? I think that if they get an offer from a P4, they will take it regardless of the costs involved. State universities can do that. 

UConn wouldn't think twice if asked, but why would anyone ask?

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2025, 10:08:12 AMUConn wouldn't think twice if asked, but why would anyone ask?

Now? They wouldn't.

But five, ten years from now? Who knows? I can see it happening if UConn continues to improve under Mora and a conference needs another school.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

burger

I think UConn is staying put unless one of these conferences is going to share an insane amount of football money with them.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan on January 17, 2025, 10:10:49 AMNow? They wouldn't.

But five, ten years from now? Who knows? I can see it happening if UConn continues to improve under Mora and a conference needs another school.

They beat all the other bad schools in their conference this year and lost to all of the P4 teams.  They're not a draw, and despite a improvement year, they still lost $14m and played to half empty stadiums.  I just don't see any upside for a P4 conference... like if you HAVE to have someone, sure, I guess... but they'd just be subsidizing their program.

And after all, this is all about money.

Scoop Snoop

#3761
Quote from: The Sultan on January 17, 2025, 10:10:49 AMNow? They wouldn't.

But five, ten years from now? Who knows? I can see it happening if UConn continues to improve under Mora and a conference needs another school.

This. Hards is right about the here and now, but UCONN's has state legislators that want a decent FB team on the national stage. No matter HOW much money it takes, they are determined to keep the FB ship afloat and make it presentable to a P4 member. Shades of Putin in terms of thought process.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 17, 2025, 10:37:03 AMThey beat all the other bad schools in their conference this year and lost to all of the P4 teams.  They're not a draw, and despite a improvement year, they still lost $14m and played to half empty stadiums.  I just don't see any upside for a P4 conference... like if you HAVE to have someone, sure, I guess... but they'd just be subsidizing their program.

And after all, this is all about money.

They're not in a conference.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan on January 17, 2025, 11:45:55 AMThey're not in a conference.

Ah, fair enough.  Well they beat the non P4 conference opponents, and lost to the P4 opponents.  Also, I'm not going to count the bowl game since we all know that a lot of players take off for those games, especially if they're going pro, and it isn't the playoffs.

Next year will be the real test.  They have to win important games to get a look from a major conference. 

1318WWells

Quote from: Goatherder on January 16, 2025, 10:56:29 PMWhen UConn joined, there was a huge exit fee in the agreement, something like $30 million, but declining over a ten year period or something like that.  Of course, if the got an invite from a major conference, it may well be worth it to jump.  Cal and Stanford joined the ACC agreeing to a smaller revenue share.  SMU agreed to none at all for five years or so.  As time goes on, the exit fee might not be much of a factor.  That seems fair enough.  If UConn wants to leave after five or ten years, Godspeed and thanks for the natties.  If they stick around, they are a valued member of the conference, even if they do not fit the profile of the other schools.  I wonder what UConn fans think about playing Creighton, Butler and Xavier.  They have enough games against Marquette from the past Big East to create some history.  The new entries do not look like the conference they originally joined. 

UConn fans realize that X, Creighton and Butler are huge step up from the dregs of the AAC and are happy to be back in the Big East.


Scoop Snoop

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 18, 2025, 09:19:04 AMIs this what we have to look forward to when the P4 start controlling the Basketball Championship?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/future-college-football-playoff-format-receives-major-update-on-friday/ar-AA1xoLqy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8cc5f15c0afe4f48a26a591e4fba38e2&ei=10

You can bet on it. Just hope that they come to the conclusion that including the BE results in more money for the P4 when the tourney is over. That does not mean that they will not stack the deck in seeding the tourney though.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MU82

Quote from: Goatherder on January 16, 2025, 10:56:29 PMI wonder what UConn fans think about playing Creighton, Butler and Xavier.

They're no doubt getting sick of losing to Creighton.
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MarquetteMike1977

#3768
Agree with Coach K and Rick Pitino. But these this are usually done quiet and behind the scenes. When Marquette first joined the Big East Bill Cords assistant said to me we are friends with Notre Dame and UCONN. I believe this since a UCONN booster tracked me down at Disney World when we joined the Big East. Marquette's recent success has been helped by Mr Scholl Shaka Mr Broeker Boosters and UCONN rejoining the Big East. Feel we should stay in a conference with UCONN if we can.

The Sultan

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 22, 2025, 12:23:00 PMAgree with Coach K and Rick Pitino.

Combining with the ACC is a terrible idea. A 29 school conference where 18 of them sponsor football? Yuck.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TallTitan34

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 22, 2025, 12:23:00 PMFeel we should stay in a conference with UCONN if we can.

Why? UConn has shown multiple times they have no problem leaving the Big East.  They don't care about our interests, nor should they.

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