Quote from: Viper on January 11, 2025, 02:26:22 PMwhere exactly is 'government here' ?

Department of Sports & Recreation in PR. There were some incidents of abusive coaches mainly with the children under 12. There were some a$$hats who thought they should be treated as MLB players. So coaching seminars were implemented, basically as to coaching children.

Quote from: pbiflyer on January 11, 2025, 12:59:37 PMGreat point, the good coach I butted heads with was because of his personality, not his integrity or attitude toward his players. I just didn't like him, but respected him. Maybe it was because he never missed an opportunity to remind us he was a Notre Who alum. 

I had a coach who made us play with 9 players in the first half of a soccer game because two players were 3 mins late. We lost 1-0 on a goal scored in that half. The lesson we all learned is this guy will cut off his nose to spite his face because someone's mom hit traffic.

We then had a coach who made us condition significantly more for several weeks because we ran out of gas and let up big time late in a game and lost big because of it. While bad in the moment the corresponding results demonstrated there was method and reason behind it. Our team finished the season as strong as we had ever been because of it.

Most athletes are smart enough to recognize spite over building character.

Overtime in Lubbock.  Missed FTs open the opportunity for the Clones.  Helps Marquette's cause

Clones win

Exciting finish

Tech and South Carolina doing us no favors.

Could really use Arkansas, TAMU, Mississippi State, and Texas helping the cause.

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 11, 2025, 03:44:11 PMTech and South Carolina doing us no favors.

Could really use Arkansas, TAMU, Mississippi State, and Texas helping the cause.

Wait ... don't we want Iowa State to win?

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2025, 04:46:52 PMWait ... don't we want Iowa State to win?

Not for seeding/moving up the polls which I assume was his purpose on that post

Quote from: Newsdreams on January 11, 2025, 12:46:49 PMAbout 25 yrs ago I coached my sons little league team and was in charged of teams from 5 yrs to 16. Government here requires coaches for children to take a couple of free seminars, about 4 hrs total before you coach. The technic they thought which I imagine is well known is the sandwich. When you're going to tell the individual or the team something negative, regarding play, you should begin and end with something positive with the negative in between. I feel Shaka does that, he mixes the good and the bad win or lose.

I coach middle-school kids, and I do exactly this. I'm Mr. Positive, and I truly believe kids respond much better to that.  Not only is that my personality in general, but also the rare times I criticize or get stern, it carries more weight because I'm not always on 'em.

The two years I assistant coached at the HS level, our coach was generally positive but he was a real taskmaster and would criticize or correct when he needed to. He's one of the best coaches in the Charlotte area, and has a great feel for when to praise and when to criticize.

One day before practice he told me, "We were too sloppy and lackadaisical last game, so I'm really gonna get on them. Your job is to be super positive to counter me."

I'm also pretty cognizant about how I phrase things. For example, I rarely say one player is better or worse than another. I say one is more experienced or less experienced. I'm sure I'm not fooling anyone - the kids aren't stoopid and know who the best and worst players are - but I don't want a 12-year-old going to her or his parents and saying, "Coach told everyone that so-and-so is better than me."

Obviously, a lot of the above applies more to middle-schoolers than college athletes, but everyone wants to be treated with respect, and most respond better to positive reinforcement IMHO.

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2025, 04:46:52 PMWait ... don't we want Iowa State to win?

From a seeding and ranking perspective, no. That game will be Q1A regardless.

Texas probably has the football blinders on so they don't even realize it, but they should feel a little stupid sitting at 0-3 in conference when they have two former coaches they didn't want in the top #10 for the last few years.

Georgia beats Oklahoma

Georgia win keeps looking better

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2025, 07:27:56 PMGeorgia beats Oklahoma

Georgia win keeps looking better

Helps MU cause

Porter Moser's seat is warming.  Need to win conference games, too, after fattening up on cupcakes.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2025, 07:27:56 PMGeorgia beats Oklahoma

Georgia win keeps looking better

Yep.

Nice to see team we beat win; nice to see Fraudklohoma lose.

Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2025, 07:35:06 PMPorter Moser's seat is warming.  Need to win conference games, too, after fattening up on cupcakes.

Wouldn't go warming, since their fanbase barely cares about basketball and didn't fill the TAMU game

But yes, I get your point. Would be brutal to have a back to back years as the surprising non con team that gets battered in league play

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2025, 07:27:56 PMGeorgia beats Oklahoma

Georgia win keeps looking better

A buddy of mine who is an Indiana grad was complaining about the NET because he thought it was unfair that the Hoosiers were so low, and used Oklahoma as a perfect example because they were undefeated.

I told him that it was classic Moser playing a slop schedule and that they would likely go 5-13 in conference and miss the tournament.
0-3 start puts them on their way...

I get that the SEC is a behemoth and that they did schedule Arizona, Providence, Louisville (Atlantis), and Michigan which has aged pretty poorly, but coaches will learn quickly that you do yourself no favors in scheduling a weak arse OOC slate. Buzz has learned that the hard way several times too.

The conference gauntlet is going to be very difficult for Moser and company to navigate

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2025, 07:52:11 PMYep.

Nice to see team we beat win; nice to see Fraudklohoma lose.

God I hate it so much. Respect

Quote from: DoctorV on January 11, 2025, 07:56:00 PMA buddy of mine who is an Indiana grad was complaining about the NET because he thought it was unfair that the Hoosiers were so low, and used Oklahoma as a perfect example because they were undefeated.

IU has bigger issues than the NET.

I've decided that the NET is not worth looking at until at least January. I think, but I could be wrong, that the selection committee is using the NET as a sort of sanity check for seeding and selection, and not as an absolute measure to do their job.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 12, 2025, 09:23:45 AMIU has bigger issues than the NET.

I've decided that the NET is not worth looking at until at least January. I think, but I could be wrong, that the selection committee is using the NET as a sort of sanity check for seeding and selection, and not as an absolute measure to do their job.

Since Indiana last won a national title, 38 years ago, they've been to 2 Final 4's, one of which was an improbable run with a coach they'd fire after going 1 game over .500 in conference the following 4 seasons.

They've been to 4 Sweet 16's this century, 3 of which were under Tom Crean who has 2 of their league titles this century.

Indiana doesn't have any modern currency in the basketball landscape.  Michigan State has usurped them as the Dean of the league.  Purdue has passed them.  They're now stuck in a bloated league that'll make it even harder to re-establish themselves as a league power.

The ultimate decision that set Indiana on this path was the removal of Kelvin Sampson.  They had no choice at the time, but the ramifications still harm Indiana today.  Had he managed to simply put the phone away, I'd wager he'd have been wildly successful and Indiana would be in a far better place today.

Holding on to Woodson and not bringing Dusty May home is the latest decision that will haunt them.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 12, 2025, 09:41:11 AMSince Indiana last won a national title, 38 years ago, they've been to 2 Final 4's, one of which was an improbable run with a coach they'd fire after going 1 game over .500 in conference the following 4 seasons.

They've been to 4 Sweet 16's this century, 3 of which were under Tom Crean who has 2 of their league titles this century.

Indiana doesn't have any modern currency in the basketball landscape.  Michigan State has usurped them as the Dean of the league.  Purdue has passed them.  They're now stuck in a bloated league that'll make it even harder to re-establish themselves as a league power.

The ultimate decision that set Indiana on this path was the removal of Kelvin Sampson.  They had no choice at the time, but the ramifications still harm Indiana today.  Had he managed to simply put the phone away, I'd wager he'd have been wildly successful and Indiana would be in a far better place today.

Let's be real, IU is a football school now. 

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2025, 10:14:30 AMHolding on to Woodson and not bringing Dusty May home is the latest decision that will haunt them.

I agree with this, too.  I think May will be very good at Michigan.  He seems to understand the modern landscape of the sport and is willing to accept it and try and thrive in it than whine about it.

If they're serious, this is the gig for Scott Drew.  He understands the landscape and given his penchant for skirting rules, he'll do what it takes.  Don't know if they can get him out of Waco but that would be the guy to full court press

Lost in the media's love affair with Duke and Flagg's 42 points, is the fact the Duke was only up by 4 with 0:30 left against a very suspect ND team at Duke.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 12, 2025, 10:57:35 AMLost in the media's love affair with Duke and Flagg's 42 points, is the fact the Duke was only up by 4 with 0:30 left against a very suspect ND team at Duke.

Why shouldn't the media be impressed by Flagg's 42?  He's the number 1 KenPom POY at the moment.

His line yesterday was 7-8 from 2, 4-6 from 3 and 16-17 from the line.  He had 6 boards and 7 assists.  I suppose the 3 turnovers overshadow that and his single game offensive rating of 168.

Marquette had to scrap by Georgetown at home on Tuesday against Georgetown who lost to Notre Dame by 21 at home.

Also, Duke is number 2 in KenPom overall, not that far behind Auburn and would easily be the best team in the nation in most recent seasons.

Maybe that's why the media isn't paying attention to what the score was with :30 left?