Sean will be wearing OSU red next year, Nigel will hopefully ne the answer.

Quote from: PJDunn link= ::) msg=1706869 date=1736477596Sean will be wearing OSU red next year, Nigel will hopefully ne the answer.

Predicting someone hitting the portal at Marquette is certainly a choice....... 

Quote from: PJDunn on January 09, 2025, 08:53:16 PMSean will be wearing OSU red next year, Nigel will hopefully ne the answer.

Ohio State didn't even offer Sean out of High School.

Why would they want him now fresh off of an ACL injury? Makes no sense from their perspective.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 09, 2025, 09:14:51 PMOhio State didn't even offer Sean out of High School.

Why would they want him now fresh off of an ACL injury? Makes no sense from their perspective.

It's nonsense. But to play along, the coaching staff is different so they could theoretically want him now

Of course Ohio State already has a freshman stud point guard.....but hey what's the difference? He gone!

Damn. First we lost Kam to Memphis, now we're losing Sean to Ohio State.

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 09, 2025, 09:58:52 PMDamn. First we lost Kam to Memphis, now we're losing Sean to Ohio State.

MU can't compete in NIL market

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 09, 2025, 11:18:48 AMDominic shot 42% from the field, 28% from 3, and 46% from the free throw line in his Senior season.

He had a career worst 0.4 Offensive Win Shares with his 2nd worst True Shooting Percentage leading to a near 7% dip in usage from his Freshman season...and yet I would agree that his impact was irreplaceable.

Sean's offensive numbers didn't pop off the charts either, but there was a reason Shaka had him on the court late in many of our Big games to start last season before he got injured. Impact guard.

You are 100% correct in saying Dominic's performance at MU declined after his freshman year.  As some who took offense to your point have mentioned in this thread, Dom had a real shot of getting drafted after his freshman year.  He didn't have a chance at any other time in his career.

Dom was a very good on ball defender, and a great athlete.  Sean Jones is a great on ball defender, and a great athlete in his own right.  I don't think your point was crazy, despite Dom being a revered and valuable player at MU due to his time at MU and it coinciding with MU's entry into the Big East. 

If Sean Jones plays 80% of available minutes, like Dominic did, his stats likely would rival what Dom produced Sophomore, Junior and Senior years.

P.S. - In my opinion, Stevie Mitchell is a better defender than Dom, and a better player who's career has been the inverse of Dom's - A guy who's gotten better every year, versus Dom who, unfortunately declined.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 09, 2025, 09:14:51 PMOhio State didn't even offer Sean out of High School.

Why would they want him now fresh off of an ACL injury? Makes no sense from their perspective.

Weren't you just saying he might be MU's leading scorer and talking about how much you think he's really good? If that's the case, I would think it's pretty clear why OSU would want him.

But I don't see any reason Sean would be entering the portal this offseason.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 09, 2025, 11:25:16 PMWeren't you just saying he might be MU's leading scorer and talking about how much you think he's really good? If that's the case, I would think it's pretty clear why OSU would want him.

But I don't see any reason Sean would be entering the portal this offseason.

What I think should have no bearing on Ohio States player acquisition strategy lol.

I think Sean is awesome, but why would Ohio State have any reason to want him now after an ACL tear when they didn't even want him as a high ranked healthy prospect in their own state.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 09, 2025, 10:55:52 PMYou are 100% correct in saying Dominic's performance at MU declined after his freshman year.  As some who took offense to your point have mentioned in this thread, Dom had a real shot of getting drafted after his freshman year.  He didn't have a chance at any other time in his career.

He did not get worse. He did not have a shot of getting drafted. Beautiful myths that keep getting repeated here...

This thread is wild

New to scoop?  Have your memory wiped?

Quote from: The Sultan on January 10, 2025, 05:11:42 AMHe did not get worse. He did not have a shot of getting drafted. Beautiful myths that keep getting repeated here...

You keep saying this.  Please share the data and stats that you are using to support your opinion.  Or share those that suggest Dom got better his sophomore, junior, and senior years?  I don't see a trajectory that indicates he was better in those subsequent years?

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 10, 2025, 07:38:04 AMThis thread is wild

Wait 'till tonight after I do a massive amount of bong hits, then we can talk about wild

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2025, 08:11:44 AMYou keep saying this.  Please share the data and stats that you are using to support your opinion.  Or share those that suggest Dom got better his sophomore, junior, and senior years?  I don't see a trajectory that indicates he was better in those subsequent years?

I'm not sure he got worse, but his stats didn't improve certainly.  Probably what he's taking issue with.

His freshmen and senior years were statistically similar, except his usage was down.

The idea that he would have been drafted after his freshman year is kinda bonkers. 5-10 guards who can't shoot a lick, even in the NBA back then, aren't early entry candidates.

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 10, 2025, 08:43:49 AMHis freshmen and senior years were statistically similar, except his usage was down.

The idea that he would have been drafted after his freshman year is kinda bonkers. 5-10 guards who can't shoot a lick, even in the NBA back then, aren't early entry candidates.

This draft profile from Sept 2006, leading into his sophomore year as "he entered this season, which almost certainly will be his last, as one of the most heralded guards in the country."

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/dominic-james/

There was a lot of chatter around MU after his freshman season as to whether he'd enter the draft - whether or not he would have gotten drafted?  We'll never know, but my recollection among MU fans was that his best chance would have been after his freshman year, looking back on his career after senior year.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 10, 2025, 09:01:54 AMWe'll never know, but my recollection among MU fans was that his best chance would have been after his freshman year, looking back on his career after senior year.

That's how I remember it.  It wasn't that he WOULD have been drafted after his freshman year.  It's that his stock was at its highest point after his freshman year.

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 10, 2025, 09:45:04 AMThat's how I remember it.  It wasn't that he WOULD have been drafted after his freshman year.  It's that his stock was at its highest point after his freshman year.

Yeah, regardless of whether he got worse, he got older without improving his shooting. His draft stock after freshman year would've been based on assumptions about his trajectory. After four years, he was a similar player, who still couldn't shoot, so not a draft candidate.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 10, 2025, 12:01:04 AMWhat I think should have no bearing on Ohio States player acquisition strategy lol.

I think Sean is awesome, but why would Ohio State have any reason to want him now after an ACL tear when they didn't even want him as a high ranked healthy prospect in their own state.

Because it's an entirely new coaching staff.  So if they see him as good as you see him, why wouldn't a program want the hometown kid?

Quote from: wadesworld on January 10, 2025, 09:55:38 AMBecause it's an entirely new coaching staff.  So if they see him as good as you see him, why wouldn't a program want the hometown kid?

For the reasons already stated. Hasn't played since tearing his ACL. Also Diebler has been with Ohio State for around the last decade. He was likely one of the recruiting coordinators in his assistant role alongside Holtmann.

Taking a risk on Sean when there will be 1,500 kids in the transfer portal makes little to no sense at all for OSU. While on the flip side, Sean starting for Marquette and only further building their culture and development makes all the sense in the world.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 10, 2025, 10:01:48 AMFor the reasons already stated. Hasn't played since tearing his ACL. Also Diebler has been with Ohio State for around the last decade. He was likely one of the recruiting coordinators in his assistant role alongside Holtmann.

Taking a risk on Sean when there will be 1,500 kids in the transfer portal makes little to no sense at all for OSU. While on the flip side, Sean starting for Marquette and only further building their culture and development makes all the sense in the world.

How big of a risk is it for a team to offer one of its 15 roster/scholarship spots to a kid who you're projecting to be the starting point guard in a program that has a very good chance to be a top 2 seed for the third straight season?

Would Ohio St really turn up it's nose at our 2025-26 leading scorer, or is someone just intentionally stirring the pot with overly hot takes again.

Once you realize that GE is always going to take the extreme position just to be contrarian its easier to laugh off his takes.  Fears Radford because he knows nobody else does. Thinks Royce stretches the floor because nobody else does.  Thinks Sean will be the leading scorer next year because nobody else does. etc. etc. etc. 

A quick look shows PJDunn is snarky, but rarely does an out of the blue hot take like this.