I don't have a problem with a ref missing a call here or there.  Or even a few home whistles.  But what really bothers me is when seemingly the 2nd half is officiated completely differently than the 1st half.  Is it my imagination or does this pretty much happen regularly?  Either call it tight or let them play.  I'm not sure why this is apparently so difficult.

What's the 5 point plan Muugsy? The ref's aggression will not stand.

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 21, 2024, 07:00:47 PMWhat's the 5 point plan Muugsy? The ref's aggression will not stand.

I'm not advocating they be included in my FPP.  But perhaps the remote possibility, that they should have eyes in the back of their heads, could be a deterrent.     

Refs favor the team with a fan base that kills more aquatic animals in the week leading up to the game.

Before providence dump a tanker of oil in the pacific mugs, and we should be good.

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2024, 06:56:21 PMI don't have a problem with a ref missing a call here or there.  Or even a few home whistles.  But what really bothers me is when seemingly the 2nd half is officiated completely differently than the 1st half.  Is it my imagination or does this pretty much happen regularly?  Either call it tight or let them play.  I'm not sure why this is apparently so difficult.

Because basketball is difficult to ref and college refs aren't always good at it. Actually being employed by the conferences would help.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 21, 2024, 07:08:40 PMBecause basketball is difficult to ref and college refs aren't always good at it. Actually being employed by the conferences would help.

But there seems to be a pattern half to half. 

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 21, 2024, 07:08:18 PMRefs favor the team with a fan base that kills more aquatic animals in the week leading up to the game.

Before providence dump a tanker of oil in the pacific mugs, and we should be good.

Stop attacking the aquatic community and their exemplary members.  Sea otters at the Oregon Zoo dunk emphatically. 

The BEAST needs to be the first conference to hire full time professional refs.  Make them available for all BEAST conference and non-con games.  Develop some conference consistency.  Buy out the good guys so they are not killing themselves trying to do 5 games per week all over the country. 

If this happens, the BEAST will be 2nd only to the NBA in quality of officiating.

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2024, 06:56:21 PMI don't have a problem with a ref missing a call here or there.  Or even a few home whistles.  But what really bothers me is when seemingly the 2nd half is officiated completely differently than the 1st half.  Is it my imagination or does this pretty much happen regularly?  Either call it tight or let them play.  I'm not sure why this is apparently so difficult.

Losers whine about the refs.

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2024, 07:10:29 PMBut there seems to be a pattern half to half. 

Yeah I know what you mean. No answer to that specifically.

I feel like Big East reffing changing at halftime is a tradition unlike any other. It's been this way as long as we've been here.

I still can't get over that call where the refs stopped Marquette's offense in its tracks to scold the Xavier bench. Then MU threw away the inbound for a breakaway dunk. If the ref stops play for something like that when the opposing team has the ball, it should have been a T.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 21, 2024, 07:21:34 PMYeah I know what you mean. No answer to that specifically.

I think has to do with game intensity and the desire to keep the contest moving in the 1st half.

I rarely can remember a game when the 1st half is called tightly, and the second half contact is let go.

At this point it should be expected. The second half is just going to be called tighter. It is what it is.

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 21, 2024, 07:33:26 PMI still can't get over that call where the refs stopped Marquette's offense in its tracks to scold the Xavier bench. Then MU threw away the inbound for a breakaway dunk. If the ref stops play for something like that when the opposing team has the ball, it should have been a T.

This was insane.

Of course, its on Kam to not throw a crapty pass on the inbounds

But like you said, for the refs to literally stop us from running our Offense to scold like a parent to their 5 year old, was nonsense.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 21, 2024, 07:34:44 PMThis was insane.

Of course, its on Kam to not throw a crapty pass on the inbounds

But like you said, for the refs to literally stop us from running our Offense to scold like a parent to their 5 year old, was nonsense.

Too many college refs make it about them.

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 21, 2024, 07:33:26 PMI still can't get over that call where the refs stopped Marquette's offense in its tracks to scold the Xavier bench. Then MU threw away the inbound for a breakaway dunk. If the ref stops play for something like that when the opposing team has the ball, it should have been a T.

Amen. That sucked!

Quote from: WarriorFan on December 21, 2024, 07:17:54 PMThe BEAST needs to be the first conference to hire full time professional refs.

If this happens, the BEAST will be 2nd only to the NBA in quality of officiating.

Yikes! second to the NBA???
The ghost of Mendy Rudolph rises.

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 21, 2024, 07:33:26 PMI still can't get over that call where the refs stopped Marquette's offense in its tracks to scold the Xavier bench. Then MU threw away the inbound for a breakaway dunk. If the ref stops play for something like that when the opposing team has the ball, it should have been a T.

Have always hated when the refs tell the bench to sit.

You are right though. It usually happens during a dead ball. Not when the other team is running their offense.

They didn't call the foul on Ross.  All is forgiven.

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 21, 2024, 07:33:26 PMI still can't get over that call where the refs stopped Marquette's offense in its tracks to scold the Xavier bench. Then MU threw away the inbound for a breakaway dunk. If the ref stops play for something like that when the opposing team has the ball, it should have been a T.

I stopped to watch at a restaurant on the road so didn't have the audio. Had no idea why they stopped the game. That is absurd they stopped the game for that. Completely flipped the game.

I think the refs are doing a pretty good job.
It can be a tough gig and for the most part I think they've done just fine.
I think that because I've had to pay such little attention to them.

If anything, I'd say MU, for being such an aggressive team defensively, has been the slight benefactor more often than not.

Marquette doesn't really play a violent offensive style, there are very few guys who drive relentlessly and for contact, and most or all of their "bigs" that play are typically away from the basket type players.
They do, however, play a pretty violent defensive style. I think most refs have been pretty fair towards that style.

Hopefully it doesn't change in the dance

Quote from: wadesworld on December 21, 2024, 08:28:56 PMI stopped to watch at a restaurant on the road so didn't have the audio. Had no idea why they stopped the game. That is absurd they stopped the game for that. Completely flipped the game.

Damarius was wide open in the corner too and the ball was making its way toward him. I was pissed caused they robbed us of a 3.

Quote from: DoctorV on December 21, 2024, 08:40:25 PMI think the refs are doing a pretty good job.
It can be a tough gig and for the most part I think they've done just fine.
I think that because I've had to pay such little attention to them.

If anything, I'd say MU, for being such an aggressive team defensively, has been the slight benefactor more often than not.

Marquette doesn't really play a violent offensive style, there are very few guys who drive relentlessly and for contact, and most or all of their "bigs" that play are typically away from the basket type players.
They do, however, play a pretty violent defensive style. I think most refs have been pretty fair towards that style.

Hopefully it doesn't change in the dance

I respect you Dr.V but are you saying I should not feel wrath towards them when I see injustice?

Pretend they are actual zebras.

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2024, 06:56:21 PMI don't have a problem with a ref missing a call here or there.  Or even a few home whistles.  But what really bothers me is when seemingly the 2nd half is officiated completely differently than the 1st half.  Is it my imagination or does this pretty much happen regularly?  Either call it tight or let them play.  I'm not sure why this is apparently so difficult.

Any ref that makes a mistake should be decapitated