Mark Gastineau to this day resents Favre for turtling to let Strahan break Gastineau's sack "record."

I put "record" in quotes because sacks didn't become an official stat until 1982. NFL researchers have since reviewed data and determined that Bubba Baker had more sacks in 1978 than either Gastineau or Strahan ever did in any season. And there are some who think that Deacon Jones had bigger totals than that.

So Gastineau never really was the "sack king" ... but he's still crying about it four decades later. Pathetic.

Quote from: MU82 on December 11, 2024, 01:13:55 AMMark Gastineau to this day resents Favre for turtling to let Strahan break Gastineau's sack "record."

I put "record" in quotes because sacks didn't become an official stat until 1982. NFL researchers have since reviewed data and determined that Bubba Baker had more sacks in 1978 than either Gastineau or Strahan ever did in any season. And there are some who think that Deacon Jones had bigger totals than that.

So Gastineau never really was the "sack king" ... but he's still crying about it four decades later. Pathetic.

I saw the clip of their exchange. It takes a special effort for Favre to come out as the good guy.

Gastineau has dementia and Alzheimer's, and it was likely caused by his playing. I think he can be given a break here.

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on December 11, 2024, 05:50:17 AMI saw the clip of their exchange. It takes a special effort for Favre to come out as the good guy.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 11, 2024, 05:55:28 AMGastineau has dementia and Alzheimer's, and it was likely caused by his playing. I think he can be given a break here.

Fair.

Quote from: tower912 on December 10, 2024, 06:56:41 PMThere is a report out there that Campbell was going to kick the field goal and Goff talked him into going for it.

Good thing he listened to Goff; that would have resulted in a penalty since Campbell was not on the roster or in uniform.

Nice.

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 08, 2024, 10:24:24 PMMahomes is the best player in the NFL. Chiefs are in dynasty mode. Going to be very tough for any team to beat them.

Nope.  Mahomes isn't even top 5 this year.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 01:40:46 PMNope.  Mahomes isn't even top 5 this year.

And yet, down by 6 with 1:15 in the 4th quarter, you, I, and everyone else here would choose Mahomes as the guy we want under center.

Every team goes into a game with KC as the biggest game on their schedule. KC doesn't get to that level mentally until a couple weeks before the playoffs. They just do enough to win.

Quote from: Jockey on December 11, 2024, 03:44:35 PMAnd yet, down by 6 with 1:15 in the 4th quarter, you, I, and everyone else here would choose Mahomes as the guy we want under center.

Every team goes into a game with KC as the biggest game on their schedule. KC doesn't get to that level mentally until a couple weeks before the playoffs. They just do enough to win.

Nope, I'd take Lamar

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 03:47:28 PMNope, I'd take Lamar

Because he's proven himself in big-game clutch situations over and over and over again?

A little surprised by this take, Hards.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 03:47:28 PMNope, I'd take Lamar

Lamar is undoubtedly the better QB this year but I agree with others here. In the playoffs I'm not betting against KC, even if they are not as good this year. Similar to some NE teams. They know how to win games.

Quote from: MU82 on December 11, 2024, 04:22:17 PMBecause he's proven himself in big-game clutch situations over and over and over again?

A little surprised by this take, Hards.

They both have, to be fair, and Lamar has done it with less talent around him.

Given identical teams and coaching staffs, I take Lamar every single time.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 04:31:05 PMThey both have, to be fair, and Lamar has done it with less talent around him.

Given identical teams and coaching staffs, I take Lamar every single time.

That's fair. I don't agree, but I can see the logic.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 04:31:05 PMThey both have, to be fair, and Lamar has done it with less talent around him.

Given identical teams and coaching staffs, I take Lamar every single time.

OK, I understand.

They of course don't have identical teams and coaching staffs. And one could make a pretty good case that Lamar is surrounded by better offensive talent than Patrick is.

Mahomes has given me every reason to select him to succeed in game-on-the-line situations every single time, so we'll agree to disagree, but at least now I get what you mean.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 03:47:28 PMNope, I'd take Lamar
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Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 11, 2024, 03:47:28 PMNope, I'd take Lamar

Good. You take the guy who hasn't won anything of note, who probably won't even win his division this year. I'll take the guy who almost always wins  -  Division, Conference, Superbowls.

My guess is that Ryan Poles will be the one with a knife in his back by the time the coaching search ends.

Quote from: Jockey on December 11, 2024, 05:58:01 PMGood. You take the guy who hasn't won anything of note, who probably won't even win his division this year. I'll take the guy who almost always wins  -  Division, Conference, Superbowls.

Enjoy!  Mahomes has consistently had the better team around him.

Quote from: Jockey on December 11, 2024, 10:37:26 PMMy guess is that Ryan Poles will be the one with a knife in his back by the time the coaching search ends.

I think you might be onto something.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 12, 2024, 06:34:41 AMEnjoy!  Mahomes has consistently had the better team around him.

Mahomes sure as shyte doesn't have the better offensive weapons around him this season, so it'll be interesting to see what that means come playoff time.

Quote from: MU82 on December 12, 2024, 09:54:51 AMMahomes sure as shyte doesn't have the better offensive weapons around him this season, so it'll be interesting to see what that means come playoff time.

lol wut

Quote from: MU82 on December 12, 2024, 09:54:51 AMMahomes sure as shyte doesn't have the better offensive weapons around him this season, so it'll be interesting to see what that means come playoff time.

Pretty obvious. Only skill position that KC is better is TT and it's not as big of a difference as people think.

Quote from: Jockey on December 12, 2024, 11:48:44 AMPretty obvious. Only skill position that KC is better is TT and it's not as big of a difference as people think.

Tight Tail?
Cross between a tight end and a tailback?

Quote from: barfolomew on December 12, 2024, 12:49:46 PMTight Tail?
Cross between a tight end and a tailback?

Gentlemen's club in Vegas?

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 12, 2024, 01:58:20 PMGentlemen's club in Vegas?

Bo Ryan's secret service codename?

Hard to argue with choosing Josh Allen this year either