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A lot of competition on the Ocho.  I hope I can find the game that matters.
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Zog from Margo

I watched a bit of UM v UW. UM running the ball screen up top with two bigs was interesting and effective. Teams are not used to having two bigs defend the ball screen. I wonder if MU could run it with Parham and Gold.

MUbiz

Quote from: Zog from Margo on December 04, 2024, 07:52:53 AMI watched a bit of UM v UW. UM running the ball screen up top with two bigs was interesting and effective. Teams are not used to having two bigs defend the ball screen. I wonder if MU could run it with Parham and Gold.

Exactly what I thought last night.

MUfan12

Quote from: Zog from Margo on December 04, 2024, 07:52:53 AMI watched a bit of UM v UW. UM running the ball screen up top with two bigs was interesting and effective. Teams are not used to having two bigs defend the ball screen. I wonder if MU could run it with Parham and Gold.

The space that freed up down low got Michigan two key, easy buckets down the stretch as well.

wadesworld

So Michigan will run away with the B1G I guess.  Road win against a clear top 2 B1G team to start the conference season off.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on December 04, 2024, 09:43:46 AMSo Michigan will run away with the B1G I guess.  Road win against a clear top 2 B1G team to start the conference season off.

Think the Badger players were focused on finals.  Wouldn't read much into it
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Quote from: Zog from Margo on December 04, 2024, 07:52:53 AMI watched a bit of UM v UW. UM running the ball screen up top with two bigs was interesting and effective. Teams are not used to having two bigs defend the ball screen. I wonder if MU could run it with Parham and Gold.

Not sure Ben Gold is the ball handler than Wolf is for Michigan.

If Marquette couldn't make that work with Oso against UW, not sure they'll do it with Benny.

Could see them using Chase and Stevie on the attack though. Those guys (along with Kam obviously) should be able to get to their spots. Just have to do it under control because when UW is beat, they rely on the flop/charge and make the officials make a decision.
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Zog from Margo

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2024, 10:03:26 AMNot sure Ben Gold is the ball handler than Wolf is for Michigan.

If Marquette couldn't make that work with Oso against UW, not sure they'll do it with Benny.

Could see them using Chase and Stevie on the attack though. Those guys (along with Kam obviously) should be able to get to their spots. Just have to do it under control because when UW is beat, they rely on the flop/charge and make the officials make a decision.

I wasn't thinking of doing it for the UW game. MU only has a couple of practices before that game. MU won't be making any major changes to what they do nor they should they. They're a top 5 team. My comment was more for the long term. To me, what UM did was fairly unique and very interesting. I think a lot of teams, not just UW, would have trouble defending it. I simply wondered whether, given the athletic ability and shooting skills of Parham and Gold, it could eventually be another arrow in the quiver for MU.

tower912

Two big ball screen.   Wojo ran some versions of that.  Very effective at getting JjJ lanes to the basket.  Did it a little during his final season with Theo and Garcia.  Theo would roll, Garcia would flare.




Yeah, I know.  Just fun to wind some people up.
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GoldenEagles03

I'm really intrigued with Damarius as a primary ball handler. He has looked great in that role creating offense and they have let him bring the ball up frequently.

Any lineup combination of

Damarius
Kam
Chase/Stevie
Joplin
Gold/Parham

is just so fun, and it would allow more opportunities for Kam away from the ball. Like always for a Freshman, it will depend on his defense,but if he defends we could have something very very special moving forward with all the lineup possibilities.
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Its DJOver

A true Freshman with a TO% approaching 30 and an assist% under 10 as a primary ball handler? Lets not try to re-invent the wheel here, I'll take the Senior with a TO% of 10 and an assist% over 40. DO has a high ceiling, but we currently have better options.
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I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 04, 2024, 11:27:11 AMA true Freshman with a TO% approaching 30 and an assist% under 10 as a primary ball handler? Lets not try to re-invent the wheel here, I'll take the Senior with a TO% of 10 and an assist% over 40. DO has a high ceiling, but we currently have better options.

Yep. I could see Owens in this capacity at the end of a blowout win in BE play, but I am hoping that GE 03 was not referring to the next 3 games. I doubt that it would be "fun".
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Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2024, 11:03:27 AMTwo big ball screen.   Wojo ran some versions of that.  Very effective at getting JjJ lanes to the basket.  Did it a little during his final season with Theo and Garcia.  Theo would roll, Garcia would flare.




Yeah, I know.  Just fun to wind some people up.

No problem. Watching them execute that option where Theo popped out for a three was sweet. Of course, the rotations to get back on defense were flawless as one would expect.

THRILLHO

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 04, 2024, 11:27:11 AMA true Freshman with a TO% approaching 30 and an assist% under 10 as a primary ball handler? Lets not try to re-invent the wheel here, I'll take the Senior with a TO% of 10 and an assist% over 40. DO has a high ceiling, but we currently have better options.
While we're examining his stats let's not forget he also shoots 100% from 3.

BM1090

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2024, 11:18:34 AMI'm really intrigued with Damarius as a primary ball handler. He has looked great in that role creating offense and they have let him bring the ball up frequently.

Any lineup combination of

Damarius
Kam
Chase/Stevie
Joplin
Gold/Parham

is just so fun, and it would allow more opportunities for Kam away from the ball. Like always for a Freshman, it will depend on his defense,but if he defends we could have something very very special moving forward with all the lineup possibilities.

He's way too lose with it right now, but they could start doing this for 4-5 minute stretches in conference play so it's an option by end of year. And I think they will.

I would not expect to see it in the next 11 days.

MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on December 04, 2024, 09:43:46 AMSo Michigan will run away with the B1G I guess.  Road win against a clear top 2 B1G team to start the conference season off.

Pretty easily.
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DoctorV

Quote from: BM1090 on December 04, 2024, 01:55:59 PMHe's way too lose with it right now, but they could start doing this for 4-5 minute stretches in conference play so it's an option by end of year. And I think they will.

I would not expect to see it in the next 11 days.

^^^ +1

It's a nice wrinkle towards a very potent offensive lineup for stretches later in the season.

For now, I'd expect much more Kam/Stevie/Chase as the 1-3, over 32/33 minutes of it barring foul trouble.

First to spell will likely be Tre Norman, as he is safer with the ball and tough defensively.

Damarius will get minutes because he can relieve any number of guys, and he will have to depending on game flow, fouls, tired legs, but he will only handle the ball as needed as the 3rd or 4th option imo.
If/when SJ22 returns he will get the ball before DO too.

I see SJ22 being more or a pure pg used as a change of pace to break down defenses and distribute to help Kam play off the ball and give his some rest type of player for this season. His explosiveness will hopefully be back next season


MuggsyB

Uhhhhh.....Maryland is having some success in the 1st H.  Holy Fk. 

tower912

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Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2024, 06:18:19 PMUhhhhh.....Maryland is having some success in the 1st H.  Holy Fk. 

The Buckeyes are still reeling from the football loss.

DoctorV

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2024, 06:18:19 PMUhhhhh.....Maryland is having some success in the 1st H.  Holy Fk. 

Very tough environment to play in, one of the loudest I've witnessed

Uncle Rico

Quote from: DoctorV on December 04, 2024, 06:46:38 PMVery tough environment to play in, one of the loudest I've witnessed

Ryan Day said it was windy on Saturday and that was a problem.  Maybe it's windy inside the arena?
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