What is each MU player making before state and federal taxes in NIL money this year?

Going to leave this relevant tweet Tony Altimore posted last year below:

BASKETBALL SCHOOLS:
Who has the biggest hoops budgets?

   1.   Duke - $28.0M
   2.   UConn - $24.1M
   3.   Kentucky - $22.7M
   4.   Kansas - $21.9M
   5.   Villanova - $18.7M
   6.   Michigan State - $16.6M
   7.   Maryland - $16.4M
   8.   Xavier - $15.9M
   9.   Indiana - $15.8M
   10.   Texas - $15.5M
   11.   Marquette - $15.0M
   12.   Kansas State - $14.8M
   13.   Syracuse - $14.4M
   14.   Tennessee - $14.1M
   15.   Georgetown - $13.9M

Link: https://x.com/tjaltimore/status/1666083267924344835?s=46&t=OtH3fGdWn1YytJV819hojw

Actually, that article would not be relative to an NIL discussion because NIL payments are not funded by the schools themselves, and therefore would not be part of those schools' budgets.

Correct.  NIL comes from external sources.  The number in the chart is salaries for coaches, salaries for staff, travel, rent to Fiserv, travel for recruiting, etc.

Most probably already knew we were up there but it's still excellent to see us up there on that list. Some schools on there need to start seeing a better return on their investment.

Quote from: CountryRoads on November 30, 2024, 08:44:44 AMMost probably already knew we were up there but it's still excellent to see us up there on that list. Some schools on there need to start seeing a better return on their investment.

It's not a consistent measurement. Don't get too hung up on those numbers except to know MU supports bball well.

Quote from: CountryRoads on November 30, 2024, 08:44:44 AMMost probably already knew we were up there but it's still excellent to see us up there on that list. Some schools on there need to start seeing a better return on their investment.

Like what? The return seems pretty good IMO.

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2024, 10:41:53 AMIt's not a consistent measurement. Don't get too hung up on those numbers except to know MU supports bball well.

Yep

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2024, 10:41:53 AMIt's not a consistent measurement. Don't get too hung up on those numbers except to know MU supports bball well.

Agreed. AD budgets, especially per sport breakdowns are all engineered. Not reliable, or consistent in how they are applied at all.

I heard a while back that MU brings in about $1.5M from NIL proceeds.  No idea how the dollars are spread out but I suspect the majority goes to the upper classmen.

So, how much bread can players like Kam, Chase, and Stevie score at MU, hey?

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2024, 12:30:22 PMSo, how much bread can players like Kam, Chase, and Stevie score at MU, hey?

Probably 3/4 if that NIL sum, if you sub in Jop for Chase.

The remaining 1/4 goes to the younger classes.

Complete conjecture, but it's been stated that upperclassmen take far and away the biggest cut.
I'd be willing to bet Kam gets very close to what TyKo got, and so on and so forth, with their own personal NIL deals just sweetening that pot

Quote from: DoctorV on November 30, 2024, 12:56:08 PMProbably 3/4 if that NIL sum, if you sub in Jop for Chase.

The remaining 1/4 goes to the younger classes.

Complete conjecture, but it's been stated that upperclassmen take far and away the biggest cut.
I'd be willing to bet Kam gets very close to what TyKo got, and so on and so forth, with their own personal NIL deals just sweetening that pot

Based on my conversations with folks that are heavily involved with NIL, this is pretty accurate.

What's nice is that even the walk-ons get a little beer money.

I was told a story about one of the current underclassmen whose father tried to negotiate a significantly higher NIL deal during the recruitment process.  Shaka basically told him, "that's the amount that Freshmen at Marquette get.  If your son wants more money, I am sure that there are other teams that will get that for him."  The player ended up calling Shaka back saying, "Don't listen to my dad.  I want to play for YOU!"

Gtown is 15th???

Quote from: warriorchick on November 30, 2024, 05:55:00 PMBased on my conversations with folks that are heavily involved with NIL, this is pretty accurate.

What's nice is that even the walk-ons get a little beer money.

I was told a story about one of the current underclassmen whose father tried to negotiate a significantly higher NIL deal during the recruitment process.  Shaka basically told him, "that's the amount that Freshmen at Marquette get.  If your son wants more money, I am sure that there are other teams that will get that for him."  The player ended up calling Shaka back saying, "Don't listen to my dad.  I want to play for YOU!"

Mad respect for whoever that is.

The way Shaka does it clearly works for his system and helps foster a culture that keeps players for four years. I love it.

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 30, 2024, 06:06:10 PMGtown is 15th???

You'd be surprised where they finished in 2023.

Still paying Ewing?

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 30, 2024, 06:06:10 PMGtown is 15th???

My guess is rental of the Capital One Center or whatever it's called these days is a significant part of that, as is MU's rental or Fiserv. Perhaps DFW can confirm if that is the case.

Xavier surprises me, especially being one of the only two BE teams with full-time on-campus arenas which means not having to pay to rent like the rest of the BE.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 02, 2024, 09:47:12 AMXavier surprises me, especially being one of the only two BE teams with full-time on-campus arenas which means not having to pay to rent like the rest of the BE.

It's all in the cost accounting. While Xavier has its on-campus arena, they have to maintain it, recognize depreciation and pay for its operations. You may find that much of the arena's operating and capital cost is being borne by Xavier's basketball program.

Quote from: dgies9156 on December 02, 2024, 10:18:23 AMIt's all in the cost accounting. While Xavier has its on-campus arena, they have to maintain it, recognize depreciation and pay for its operations. You may find that much of the arena's operating and capital cost is being borne by Xavier's basketball program.

True. They have also done some costly upgrades to the arena and basketball facilities recently.

Somewhat surprised to hear that a Dad called Shaka regarding NIL money. I was under the impression that Shaka is hands off in regard to handling of the NIL money or even discussing money with the players. Actually, thought it was great idea for Shaka to be away from those discussions.

Quote from: Goose on December 02, 2024, 11:52:42 AMSomewhat surprised to hear that a Dad called Shaka regarding NIL money. I was under the impression that Shaka is hands off in regard to handling of the NIL money or even discussing money with the players. Actually, thought it was great idea for Shaka to be away from those discussions.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't originally an NIL discussion. Also, I'm sure NIL comes up in just about every recruiting process.

Just received several postcards for my kids for House versus NCAA Class Action Settlement. Says to log in on December 17 to find out what they will get.  My guess the claimant pool will be very large.

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 02, 2024, 02:09:38 PMJust received several postcards for my kids for House versus NCAA Class Action Settlement. Says to log in on December 17 to find out what they will get.  My guess the claimant pool will be very large.

Sick.

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 02, 2024, 02:09:38 PMJust received several postcards for my kids for House versus NCAA Class Action Settlement. Says to log in on December 17 to find out what they will get.  My guess the claimant pool will be very large.

My daughter got them too. I read that for non-revenue sports at bigger conference schools, the payment may be in the hundreds to maybe low thousands.

This guy says Kam is minting 2 million cash in NIL value and is second overall on his list.  Who knows if it is true but good for Kam.  His play has been at another level this year. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/10-college-basketball-players-who-are-minting-cash/ss-AA1vbKLR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ed76230a323f4465abbec9ca7f7a101d&ei=84#image=10

Quote from: Big Papi on December 03, 2024, 09:28:04 AMThis guy says Kam is minting 2 million cash in NIL value and is second overall on his list.  Who knows if it is true but good for Kam.  His play has been at another level this year. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/10-college-basketball-players-who-are-minting-cash/ss-AA1vbKLR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ed76230a323f4465abbec9ca7f7a101d&ei=84#image=10

That's "valuation" not what they're getting. Arch Manning, for example, has a valuation over $3 million and didn't take NIL as a freshman (he got one deal and gave it all to charity, and only is rumored has one deal this year with EA Sports and the speculation is that has all gone to charity too. My guess is Kam is getting a nice chunk of change (and a car) but not $2 million.