Figured I'd start this since there are likely to be two programs that have won national titles in the last decade open going into next season. Who do Villanova and Virginia target?

Both should try to throw a bag at Otzleberger, but I don't see him leaving for either of those jobs.

I think it's too soon for Ben McCollum to get either of those jobs, but I'm a believer. Wins everywhere he goes. If DePaul had waited another year for a change, he'd be at the top of my list if I were them. Bart Lundy falls into this category too.

Will be interested to see if a bigger job gives Will Wade a shot this offseason.

Joe Pasternack could get a high major job soon. If Colorado State has another good season Medved should take the jump to a high major.

Yeah I doubt Otz takes either of those jobs but he def should be a top call.

Can added Minnesota to the vacancy list, but for the purpose of this they don't have the same appeal as Nova/Virginia

I'm probably reading too much into it, but the last time Villanova hired a Hofstra coach it worked out pretty well for them. Speedy Claxton has had Hoftra as one of the top mid majors for the last few years.

I have no idea where UVA goes.  Short of Sanchez making some crazy run to the FF or something, it would be insane for them to keep him.  I wonder if Ryan Odom doesn't get a serious look if he has a good year at VCU.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 25, 2024, 08:51:18 PMI think it's too soon for Ben McCollum to get either of those jobs, but I'm a believer. Wins everywhere he goes. If DePaul had waited another year for a change, he'd be at the top of my list if I were them. Bart Lundy falls into this category too.

Will be interested to see if a bigger job gives Will Wade a shot this offseason.

Joe Pasternack could get a high major job soon. If Colorado State has another good season Medved should take the jump to a high major.

I mean, Ben McCollum has coached at 1 place for 15 years and now has coached 6 games at Drake, I don't know if "wins everywhere he goes" is valid yet.  They started nice but they beat a middle of the pack NIT bound Miami team and a Vandy team picked dead last in the SEC.

Gotta think Pasternak is biding his time waiting for a particular West Coast adjacent gig.  I would think Medved would be at the top of the list for Minnesota when they can Ben Johnson this year.

Will Wade is gonna get hired this offseason, IMO.  I don't think any interesting SEC or ACC jobs will be open for him (though VT would make sense and I doubt Mike Young is long for there). Honestly, USF may be a interesting spot for him.

There is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.

While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.

Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.

As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMThere is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.

While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.

Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.

As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?

TJO has a lot of history at Iowa State, as does the wife, fwiw.  He might be our choice after Shaka takes the Virginia job, though.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 26, 2024, 08:24:24 AMTJO has a lot of history at Iowa State, as does the wife, fwiw.  He might be our choice after Shaka takes the Virginia job, though.

We can't afford Wardle? smh...

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:33:01 AMWe can't afford Wardle? smh...

He's the dream hire but he'll be a hot commodity

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 26, 2024, 08:45:41 AMHe's the dream hire but he'll be a hot commodity

Especially now that he coached Bradley to a championship in the Myrtle Beach Invitational. Wins over Texas State, Wright State and Middle Tennessee are a pretty impressive resume.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMThere is no reason for Otz to leave. He has it rolling there and ISU can pay him plenty.

While Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.

Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.

As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?

Why do you think Villanova is going to do something dumb?

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 26, 2024, 08:51:09 AMWhy do you think Villanova is going to do something dumb?

Because I think they are going to still be swayed by Jay Wright and his coaching tree.

Although he did coach Claxton at Hofstra...

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 25, 2024, 09:09:19 PMYeah I doubt Otz takes either of those jobs but he def should be a top call.

Can added Minnesota to the vacancy list, but for the purpose of this they don't have the same appeal as Nova/Virginia

Otz will be the top candidate at Michigan State when Izzo hangs it up sooner than later.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 26, 2024, 08:03:24 AMWhile Claxton would be a good choice, I think Villanova is going to do something dumb and replace Neptune with Baker Dunleavy or something like that.

Virginia...I have no idea. Odom is as good a choice as any. I would think if he were younger, they may have gone for Ritchie McKay.

As for Will Wade, maybe Florida if they get rid of Golden?

Crazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was.  Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine.  1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down.  Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.

If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.

Quote from: JWags85 on November 26, 2024, 10:06:28 AMCrazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was.  Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine.  1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down.  Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.

If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.

My guess is that they would like to see the Title IX investigation play itself so they can fire with cause.

Ten years ago, just about every high major with an opening was interested in Shaka - the young, dynamic coach who already was very successful at the next level down. Who are this year's Shaka Smarts?

Nova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB. 

Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB. 

This is kind of what I was talking about a few years ago when I wondered out loud, "Why can't Marquette become the next Nova?"

Things are fluid in sports. We had the financial backing, the facilities, the administrative support, the fanbase, the long history. We just had to find our Jay Wright ... and hopefully we have in Shaka.

Totally agree with what you're saying about how Nova messed up. It looks like they're on a path to becoming the next Butler.

Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB. 

I get what you are saying, but Marquette managed to find an A+ coach to replace Wojo. With Nova' history and the program's recent past, I disagree that they are "cooked". I also think it is easier for a new coach to come in a couple of years later after a coach like Wright. Rather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 26, 2024, 12:05:29 PMI get what you are saying, but Marquette managed to find an A+ coach to replace Wojo. With Nova' history and the program's recent past, I disagree that they are "cooked". I also think it is easier for a new coach to come in a couple of years later after a coach like Wright. Rather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.

Good point, and I hope that's the case with Nova. The Big East is better when they're relevant IMHO.

Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB. 

I don't agree with this at all. Good programs attract good coaches. I don't think Villanova is materially much different now than it was two years ago. If anything the expectations will be lowered.

Neptune is a sober version of Hank Raymonds. Their slide has just begun.

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 26, 2024, 12:05:29 PMRather than comparing him constantly to Wright from the very beginning, the fans would give the new coach a little time to show what he can do.

Remember when Shaka beat the #10 team in the country in his third game here. 

That was pretty awesome.

In line with PJDunn's comment, I thought about MU reading

Quote from: Coleman on November 26, 2024, 11:54:16 AMNova is cooked. They had one shot to replace Wright with a top tier coach while they were the king of the hill. Neptune has managed to completely take the shine off the program in a few short years. They may get someone decent who will get them back to a tourney team eventually, but they really blew the hire to replace Wright and stay in the top tier of CBB. 

Times were different, and staying with the team and loyalty by going with Raymonds and then Majerus were understandable, but Dukiet was our Neptune. What was left of the shine faded quickly. While it has taken many years to get back to where were want (well the championship has yet to come back to Milwaukee), the new achievement of being top 10 in 3 consecutive years, shows that it is possible. Following the footsteps of a legend like Wright is so difficult, and starting with someone like Neptune doesn't help. But, we shouldn't believe that Nova is forever in the wilderness.

Quote from: MU82 on November 26, 2024, 11:50:58 AMTen years ago, just about every high major with an opening was interested in Shaka - the young, dynamic coach who already was very successful at the next level down. Who are this year's Shaka Smarts?

We'll hear Josh Schertz at St Louis (Indiana St last year), Ryan Odom at VCU, and Ben McCollum seems like he could rise fast.

Personally, what impressed me about Smart at VCU was not the Final Four, it was keeping VCU at that kind of level for years after. I'm skeptical of hires that build their rep off a mid-major tourney and 1-3 wins in March. I prefer coaches that elevate a program to levels their program haven't previously been at and sustain it. Self, Beard, Sampson, Few all did that.

If not for his tragic death, I'd have Amir Abdur-Rahim high on that list. Instead the guy I think should be at the fore is Bob Richey at Furman. Only one NCAA appearance (and win) but he took what Niko Medved did and brought them higher. And he's kept them there for years. He deserves that next step up.

Quote from: JWags85 on November 26, 2024, 10:06:28 AMCrazy that Nova wouldn't be a premier spot so quickly, shows how rough of a choice Neptune was.  Claxton is a pretty good coach, but he took over an NCAA team and has basically just been fine.  1 NIT berth and a couple top 3 finishes isn't anything special when his predecessor won back to back conference titles before stepping down.  Not bad, but not what you'd think for one of the top 3 programs of the last decade.

If Florida didn't immediately can Golden, I don't think they will now, especially when he's probably gonna be NCAA bound with a top 6 seed.

Nova will be fine assuming they move on after this season. UNC made a bad inside the family hire in Doherty and rectified things quickly with the Roy Williams hire. They have the money and resources to stay elite. Sometimes staying within the family doesn't work out when the talent pool is so shallow; look at Syracuse with Autry and Butler hiring Jordan. More proof of the saying that you don't want to be the man who follows the man.