Sultan, what's going on here?  Is MU right sizing and predictably the rank and file don't like it, or is the admin not navigating the waters well enough?

JSOnline Article

So I can't read the article cause I don't have a subscription. But my guess is that, with the news that the University is also trying to thwart an effort by non-tenured faculty to unionize, that Marquette is seeking to reduce the number of tenure track positions in lower demand areas - likely the humanities and social sciences. And will instead use more "visiting faculty" or non-tenure track faculty that come with more flexibility.

The no-confidence vote is usually somewhat of a last resort, and honestly doesn't mean anywhere near what it did a couple decades ago. Just Google up the phrase and you will see a lot of schools going through this. In fact, I think it can generally backfire with the institution's governance by making the faculty look out of touch with a school's financial realities.

Don't get me wrong. It's never good when faculty and the administration don't get along. You really want everyone on the same page when schools trying to navigate what is increasingly a difficult environment. And it doesn't help when MU is searching for a president. But in the end, its likely not going to stop Marquette from doing what it feels it needs to do moving forward.

I do think it makes it harder for Kimo Ah Yun to get the gig permanently if he wants it - but the faculty may want to be careful if they think an outsider is going to be more sympathetic.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 19, 2024, 07:02:11 PMSo I can't read the article cause I don't have a subscription. But my guess is that, with the news that the University is also trying to thwart an effort by non-tenured faculty to unionize, that Marquette is seeking to reduce the number of tenure track positions in lower demand areas - likely the humanities and social sciences. And will instead use more "visiting faculty" or non-tenure track faculty that come with more flexibility.

The no-confidence vote is usually somewhat of a last resort, and honestly doesn't mean anywhere near what it did a couple decades ago. Just Google up the phrase and you will see a lot of schools going through this. In fact, I think it can generally backfire with the institution's governance by making the faculty look out of touch with a school's financial realities.

Don't get me wrong. It's never good when faculty and the administration don't get along. You really want everyone on the same page when schools trying to navigate what is increasingly a difficult environment. And it doesn't help when MU is searching for a president. But in the end, its likely not going to stop Marquette from doing what it feels it needs to do moving forward.

I do think it makes it harder for Kimo Ah Yun to get the gig permanently if he wants it - but the faculty may want to be careful if they think an outsider is going to be more sympathetic.

Using a religious exemption to block unionization is a very bad look, and poor leadership/administration. There were so many better solutions than this and it is the culmination of a series of unfortunate decisions, and I would understand a lack of confidence in the administration.

That said, I agree with you that such a vote of no-confidence really doesn't mean much, and isn't going to stop from Marquette from doing what they want.

Quote from: forgetful on November 19, 2024, 07:42:55 PMUsing a religious exemption to block unionization is a very bad look, and poor leadership/administration. There were so many better solutions than this and it is the culmination of a series of unfortunate decisions, and I would understand a lack of confidence in the administration.

That said, I agree with you that such a vote of no-confidence really doesn't mean much, and isn't going to stop from Marquette from doing what they want.

Yeah the religious exemption excuse is pretty weak. No doubt about that.

Archive.is is your friend:

https://archive.is/20241119200808/https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2024/11/19/marquette-university-faculty-consider-no-confidence-vote/76408852007/

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 19, 2024, 07:55:25 PMYeah the religious exemption excuse is pretty weak. No doubt about that.

That's not what religious exemptions are for!

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on November 20, 2024, 08:52:20 AMArchive.is is your friend:

https://archive.is/20241119200808/https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2024/11/19/marquette-university-faculty-consider-no-confidence-vote/76408852007/

Yeah, this is pretty much what I figured. The faculty view is that they were not consulted as much as they should have been on the cuts that took place. The administration disagrees.

Is this all on Kimo or has this been building?

Quote from: The Lens on November 20, 2024, 10:01:17 AMIs this all on Kimo or has this been building?

From my understanding it's been building. I think they turned the heat down after Lovell's passing.

Quote from: The Lens on November 20, 2024, 10:01:17 AMIs this all on Kimo or has this been building?

The Provost, as the chief academic officer, is always going to take the heat from the faculty. Often the Provost serves as the "bad cop" so the President can stay above the infighting.

I once worked for a school where the faculty sued the Board of Trustees during the presidential search process. The new president hired a pretty hard-a$$ provost, who did a really good job, but had no chance on getting the gig when the president retired.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 19, 2024, 07:02:11 PMI do think it makes it harder for Kimo Ah Yun to get the gig permanently if he wants i

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Not only was I spectacularly wrong about this, I was wrong about this in less than 24 hours!


https://x.com/MarquetteU/status/1859326491915694367

On to the AD.

Quote from: tower912 on November 20, 2024, 02:12:15 PMOn to the AD.

While Craig Pintens is my hero and I want him to return, I think Broeker probably makes the most sense. 

Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 20, 2024, 02:15:44 PMWhile Craig Pintens is my hero and I want him to return, I think Broeker probably makes the most sense. 

I definitely think Broeker is the most likely. I'd rank Brian Hardin of Drake (former MU athlete, Scholl's protege, Deputy AD at MU, and a really strong record as AD there) as the second option.  He's the guy who hired Darian DeVries.

https://godrakebulldogs.com/staff.aspx?staff=296

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 20, 2024, 02:04:18 PMBWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Not only was I spectacularly wrong about this, I was wrong about this in less than 24 hours!


https://x.com/MarquetteU/status/1859326491915694367




First time ever, hey?

Main objective for Yun and for a new AD hire is keeping Shaka happy.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 20, 2024, 03:19:21 PMMain objective for Yun and for a new AD hire is keeping Shaka happy.

He m not sure it's the "main objective," but it's certainly important.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 20, 2024, 03:20:21 PMHe m not sure it's the "main objective," but it's certainly important.

Yeah, I know.  As an MU basketball fan, that's the only thing I personally care about.  But in reality, it isn't the main objective but it is more important than that would be at most schools.

Shaka to Virginia picking up steam

Congratulations to Dr. Ah Yun.

In addition to wishing him good fortune as he serves our students and the entire university, here's hoping he is as supportive of Marquette athletics as his predecessor was.

Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2024, 04:45:37 PMCongratulations to Dr. Ah Yun.

In addition to wishing him good fortune as he serves our students and the entire university, here's hoping he is as supportive of Marquette athletics as his predecessor was.

Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2024, 04:45:37 PMCongratulations to Dr. Ah Yun.

In addition to wishing him good fortune as he serves our students and the entire university, here's hoping he is as supportive of Marquette athletics as his predecessor was.

A president named Ah should be a nice boost for the dental school

Sorry.  Bad choice.  He's a nothing.  Very disappointing.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2024, 03:41:57 PMShaka to Virginia picking up steam

Works for me. I could get season tickets and be at every home game.

Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2024, 04:45:37 PMCongratulations to Dr. Ah Yun.

In addition to wishing him good fortune as he serves our students and the entire university, here's hoping he is as supportive of Marquette athletics as his predecessor was.

I'm definitely wishing him the best. But this does not look like a good hire, I'm wondering if due to the budget cuts and backlash that other candidates bowed out.

His number 1 priority needs to be a major capital campaign. MU really needs to double its endowment.

I don't follow the inner workings of Marquette's hierarchy.

Why is this a bad hire?