Quote from: BM1090 on November 13, 2024, 04:07:11 PMYou don't think 34.1% over 177 attempts over two his first two years justifies that he can/will knock down open shots? That's a better percentage than Chase his first two years on more attempts, and I think most of us are good with Chase shooting the open shots and trust he'll knock them down at a decent enough clip.

I think Shaka would be foolish to make Chase shooting threes a key component of the offense. Wouldn't you?
There's a pretty significant difference between "take an open shot if it's there" and "we're going to build an offense that aims to get a 34% shooter shots."
And as for Ben's stats ... inflated by a brief hot streak in last year's conference tourney. Take out just those 4 games and he's a 29.5% shooter in the other 68 games (28.4% in 71 you include this year).

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 13, 2024, 03:11:37 PMI think Newsie is kidding - that was Buzz's excuse for why they almost lost v. Norfolk State back in the day. They hadn't installed their zone offense yet.

Correct, tbt

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2024, 04:15:24 PMI think Shaka would be foolish to make Chase shooting threes a key component of the offense. Wouldn't you?
There's a pretty significant difference between "take an open shot if it's there" and "we're going to build an offense that aims to get a 34% shooter shots."
And as for Ben's stats ... inflated by a brief hot streak in last year's conference tourney. Take out just those 4 games and he's a 29.5% shooter in the other 68 games.

I don't know what you mean by "key component," but both Chase and Ben can take 3s in the flow of the offense right?

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 13, 2024, 04:23:30 PMI don't know what you mean by "key component," but both Chase and Ben can take 3s in the flow of the offense right?

It seems Shaka even wants Stevie to let it fly

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 13, 2024, 04:23:30 PMI don't know what you mean by "key component," but both Chase and Ben can take 3s in the flow of the offense right?

Well, again, I think there's a difference between taking an open shot in the flow of the offense and running specific sets aimed at getting a player a shot. I see the latter happening for Gold (with great success, except for the making it part), not so much Ross or Mitchell.

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2024, 04:34:34 PMWell, again, I think there's a difference between taking an open shot in the flow of the offense and running specific sets aimed at getting a player a shot. I see the latter happening for Gold (with great success, except for the making it part), not so much Ross or Mitchell.

Part of the offense is setting screens and popping or rolling. Chase has hit threes after running the same action. But teams are leaving Ben because the 5 can't switch onto Kam without getting cooked. So Shaka is going to continue to do that. I don't see it as running plays for him rather than that's the most likely outcome out of that specific action. When Chase sets screens there are more possibilities and less advantages for Kam to expose as a ball handler.

I have less of a concern about the accuracy of the observation that "Ben Gold needs to shoot better." Of course he does—he's shooting 19% from 3PT. I have more of a concern that it's a painfully obvious and boring point that's been made to death over the last two weeks.

Last night no doubt counts as a bad loss per Rico and Newsie. 😂

Quote from: real chili 83 on November 16, 2024, 07:23:29 AMLast night no doubt counts as a bad loss per Rico and Newsie. 😂

It was a good loss.  We know Shaka can't beat Big Ten teams, so it was nice they were in this one on the road

Quote from: real chili 83 on November 16, 2024, 07:23:29 AMLast night no doubt counts as a bad loss per Rico and Newsie. 😂

It will help our NET my friend

If last night was a win, does that offset the George Mason loss or do we still have work to do

Quote from: Hidden User on November 16, 2024, 11:25:41 AMIf last night was a win, does that offset the George Mason loss or do we still have work to do

Lots of work to do, it was devastating. St. Thomas still an anchor on MU's neck - Rime of Ancient Mariner stuff

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 16, 2024, 01:38:44 PMLots of work to do, it was devastating. St. Thomas still an anchor on MU's neck - Rime of Ancient Mariner stuff

Samuel Taylor Coleridge was woke

Quote from: Hidden User on November 16, 2024, 02:28:41 PMSamuel Taylor Coleridge was woke

At least wasn't sleep

Quote from: Newsdreams on November 16, 2024, 03:18:28 PMAt least wasn't sleep

I don't get it. This thread is now ruined for me

Quote from: Hidden User on November 16, 2024, 03:19:52 PMI don't get it. This thread is now ruined for me

Good