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Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Jockey

Let's just let Herman have a conversation with himself.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

PointWarrior

Maybe we can combine this thread and the Hauser brothers thread into a "Who Cares?" thread.

Herman Cain

#8
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

Probably scopin' out da next prey, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni


4everwarriors

Nice alleged ultimatum reported by The Athletic...trade me or fire Gutey, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Jockey

I think we need a separate thread for every former Packer.

Actually, two threads - one for the fanboys and one for the critics.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I have no idea if Love is any good...kinda thinking not...

But it's pretty hard for an organization to not cover their bases when their starting QB thrives on drama every off-season. I knew the Packers were going to move on when this season started to fall apart.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 31, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
I have no idea if Love is any good...kinda thinking not...

But it's pretty hard for an organization to not cover their bases when their starting QB thrives on drama every off-season. I knew the Packers were going to move on when this season started to fall apart.

My guess is 50/50. In other words, who knows.

But you are right that it was absolutely time to move on especially after what we learned in the last couple days. Despite not caring for the person - though I didn't dislike him as much as I disliked the drug addled welfare criminal - I supported him on the field. But I am glad he's gone whether we face a re-build or re-load.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 31, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
I have no idea if Love is any good...kinda thinking not...

But it's pretty hard for an organization to not cover their bases when their starting QB thrives on drama every off-season. I knew the Packers were going to move on when this season started to fall apart.

  so aaron "thrives on drama every off season"?  what if the media just ignored him?  my guess is there would be very little if any drama.  so who does the "thriving'?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 31, 2023, 06:34:34 PM
  so aaron "thrives on drama every off season"?  what if the media just ignored him?  my guess is there would be very little if any drama.  so who does the "thriving'?

Why would the media ignore him? It's not only news, it's instant clicks.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 31, 2023, 08:53:24 PM
Lots of commentary from Rodgers

https://theathletic.com/4564360/2023/05/31/aaron-rodgers-packers-succession-trade/?amp=1

Trade Me or Fire Gutey

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/31/yes-aaron-rodgers-wanted-the-packers-to-fire-g-m-brian-gutekunst-in-2021/amp/

  rodgers is a smart guy.  he knows the pack is not going to win with a guy referred to as "gutey".  as a boss man myself for over 35 years,  i had some employees who were with our company longer than myself.  they, no doubt had something to offer and many times i listened. 
   rodgers had no control (or he didn't seem to) over who "gutey" and those previous to him chose, picked, traded, drafted to help the team win.  i believe that to be a huge mistake.  we had 2 hall of fame QB's and 2 SB wins to show for it?  most of the blame lies in the front office

   conclusion-shoulda listened to brett and aaron a long time ago, but the packers organization is showing itself to be just as flawed, if not more so than all of the single owner teams out there.  instead of one super ego getting in the way, they have numerous. or too many chefs in the kitchen.  i would have added mark murphy to the firing squad, but aaron knew his limitations.  he's lucky the "peasants" of the town of green bay haven't stormed his office with pitch forks and torches. 

so much for that romantic relationship of green bay and it's football team's organization.  i don't think it's all it's cracked up to be.  how the hell murphy has lasted as long as he has smells of old road kill.  now that would be a story that would get some "clicks"
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

#19
Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 01, 2023, 05:11:06 AM
  rodgers is a smart guy.  he knows the pack is not going to win with a guy referred to as "gutey".  as a boss man myself for over 35 years,  i had some employees who were with our company longer than myself.  they, no doubt had something to offer and many times i listened. 
   rodgers had no control (or he didn't seem to) over who "gutey" and those previous to him chose, picked, traded, drafted to help the team win.  i believe that to be a huge mistake.  we had 2 hall of fame QB's and 2 SB wins to show for it?  most of the blame lies in the front office

You mean the guy who put together a roster that got them to a #2 seed, #1 seed, and a #1 seed only to have their quarterback underperform in the playoffs?

Clearly the organization has some blame here - holding onto Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy too long are at the top of the list for me. But refusing to fire their GM because he drafted a quarterback causing a first ballot HOFer to get his feelings hurt? Gimme a break.



Quote from: rocket surgeon on June 01, 2023, 05:11:06 AM
so much for that romantic relationship of green bay and it's football team's organization.  i don't think it's all it's cracked up to be.  how the hell murphy has lasted as long as he has smells of old road kill.  now that would be a story that would get some "clicks"

The "romantic relationship" is about 95% hype.  Sure it's a wonderful story with a rich history, but these days every NFL team swims in money and the Packers are a big business both on and off the field.  The reason that Murphy has lasted this long is because he runs the business side of the organization extremely well.

And the on-field product hasn't been terrible at all.  I'm not going to be one of those fans who says "only two Super Bowls?" I remember my childhood and look around the NFL today and realize it can be a hell of a lot worse.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

4everwarriors

Pack is in for some rough sleddin'. Not seein' it in #10, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

jficke13

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 31, 2023, 08:53:24 PM
Lots of commentary from Rodgers

https://theathletic.com/4564360/2023/05/31/aaron-rodgers-packers-succession-trade/?amp=1

Trade Me or Fire Gutey

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/31/yes-aaron-rodgers-wanted-the-packers-to-fire-g-m-brian-gutekunst-in-2021/amp/

The only appropriate response to that article in the Athletic is to view it as a pr piece expressing exactly what Rodgers wanted expressed. I'd take everything in it with a Himalayan salt mine sized grain of salt.

Is some of it true? Probably. Is it some aspect of the truth? No doubt. But he's like the people in a fantasy novel who cannot tell lies so learn to be really really evasive with the truth.


jficke13

Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 01, 2023, 11:30:27 AM
"Please trade me"

10/10 would trade Bak. Great dude, incredible talent, huge contract predicated on past performance, tragic impact from that knee injury. He's not the best OT in the league anymore. If someone wants to take his contract and comp with a reasonable pick I'd sell in a heartbeat.

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