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So I'm curious what other people are thinking. We're undefeated as of now, optimistic. UConn not the Frankenstein of last two years. But are we good enough, consistent enough to run the table?

I'm hedging at 18-2 because I think we're favored for all of them but perhaps UConn at their place.

Will leave the poll go for a week and ping it every now and then to get it to the top of the sort.

Thanks

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 11, 2025, 12:44:16 PMSo I'm curious what other people are thinking. We're undefeated as of now, optimistic. UConn not the Frankenstein of last two years. But are we good enough, consistent enough to run the table?

I'm hedging at 18-2 because I think we're favored for all of them but perhaps UConn at their place.

Will leave the poll go for a week and ping it every now and then to get it to the top of the sort.

Thanks

No Arby's? Booooo

 ::)

Ping

50-0

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2025, 04:35:57 PM50-0

Is that what it should be, in your unbiased opinion?

Season cancelled due to bird flu

Love this team. But we've had some slow starts that have me a bit worried, even against underwhelming BEast teams.

L's:
@ UConn
@STJ
@Creighton
Home against Uconn
And one other weird freaking surprise.

I will make the same guess I did the last time this poll was posted.

I think MU is NIT bound

Quote from: Newsdreams on January 11, 2025, 07:33:52 PMI think MU is NIT bound

If they don't start their freshmen.

Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2025, 07:40:08 PMIf they don't start their freshmen.

All Sean's fault

Even the bottom options of your poll could potentially win the Big East.

I'll go 15-5 which wins the Big East.

Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2025, 04:58:02 PMIs that what it should be, in your unbiased opinion?

0.0 chance MU isn't the best team ever, in my unbiased opinion.

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 11, 2025, 08:34:34 PMEven the bottom options of your poll could potentially win the Big East.

I'll go 15-5 which wins the Big East.

Very unacceptable for Muggsy

Man if MU loses to DePaul, this poll would be toast 😱🤯

Not happenin but the alternate universe thought experiment is wild.

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 11, 2025, 08:55:46 PMMan if MU loses to DePaul, this poll would be toast 😱🤯

Not happenin but the alternate universe thought experiment is wild.

Not happening?

The never ending roller coaster of scoop.

Win a few games and the natty talk begins. Lose a couple and every player sucks.

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 11, 2025, 08:34:34 PMEven the bottom options of your poll could potentially win the Big East.

I'll go 15-5 which wins the Big East.

I'd be very surprised if the BE Champ has more than 4 losses in conference.

Someone, and possibly 2 teams, will win all of their homes games.

I'd say 17-3 is more likely for the BE Champ than 15-5.

Quote from: Newsdreams on January 11, 2025, 07:33:52 PMI think MU is NIT bound

I respect your positivity but can't agree with it

Anyone not voting 20-0 is a projo!

Quote from: fjm on January 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PMLove this team. But we've had some slow starts that have me a bit worried, even against underwhelming BEast teams.

L's:
@ UConn
@STJ
@Creighton
Home against Uconn
And one other weird freaking surprise.

Replace home  vs UConn with at nova

Quote from: Johnny B on January 12, 2025, 07:21:58 AMReplace home  vs UConn with at nova

Not a bad pick at all. That makes more sense.

Quote from: fjm on January 11, 2025, 07:13:25 PMLove this team. But we've had some slow starts that have me a bit worried, even against underwhelming BEast teams.

L's:
@ UConn
@STJ
@Creighton
Home against Uconn
And one other weird freaking surprise.

I think this is about right. Agree we win at home v UConn and loose at Nova. 

The schedule in Feb is much tougher than Jan with the home away balance.  I think Scoop is going to melt down a bit when we have some tough stretches in Feb.

Quote from: Milkshakes on January 12, 2025, 10:56:30 AMI think this is about right. Agree we win at home v UConn and loose at Nova. 

The schedule in Feb is much tougher than Jan with the home away balance.  I think Scoop is going to melt down a bit when we have some tough stretches in Feb.

Scoop always melts down.

Wisblue was right.  The back end of the conference schedule for MU is tougher than the front end.

Quote from: Milkshakes on January 12, 2025, 10:56:30 AMI think this is about right. Agree we win at home v UConn and loose at Nova. 

The schedule in Feb is much tougher than Jan with the home away balance.  I think Scoop is going to melt down a bit when we have some tough stretches in Feb.

The fabled feb fade...

Quote from: Johnny B on January 12, 2025, 11:23:38 AMThe fabled feb fade...

Tired legs

Devlop that bench.

Every year I've followed Marquette, there have been games you win that you shouldn't have won and games you lose that you should not have lost.

While I expect we will go 20-0, realism says about 16-4. I hope my expectation becomes reality!

Bring it home, Guys!

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 12, 2025, 02:57:05 PMEvery year I've followed Marquette, there have been games you win that you shouldn't have won and games you lose that you should not have lost.

While I expect we will go 20-0, realism says about 16-4. I hope my expectation becomes reality!

Bring it home, Guys!

2022-23 being the exception. Felt like we just won every game that year. The losses in Conference were just like "whatever we'll get the next few". IIRC we didn't lose 2 games in a row the entire season.

Made the season ending loss to MSU so painful.

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 12, 2025, 02:57:05 PMEvery year I've followed Marquette, there have been games you win that you shouldn't have won and games you lose that you should not have lost.

While I expect we will go 20-0, realism says about 16-4. I hope my expectation becomes reality!

Bring it home, Guys!

COLE

Quote from: Milkshakes on January 12, 2025, 10:56:30 AMThe schedule in Feb is much tougher than Jan with the home away balance.

I was told that making that observation makes you an Eeyore and/or a Chicken Little.

By whom?

Quote from: wisblue on January 12, 2025, 05:10:49 PMI was told that making that observation makes you an Eeyore and/or a Chicken Little.

Yeah. Not really. But spin away.

So we've got at least a few folks predicting that we'll lose every tough game from here on out. Cool.

Yep. Maybe we just aren't that good? (Lots of legit nonconference wins and metrics that state otherwise). When Kam gets rolling again this team will be hard to beat. If they do lose all the tough games in February they will be more of a 5 seed than a 2 seed.  Hope they are wrong.  I do expect a few losses however.

Teams with transfers are starting to gel.  And maybe that leads to some pessimism about MUs chances on the road against the tougher teams in conference. Hopefully the nonconference schedule has prepared us for that.  I guess we will see.  Should a fun but tense month ahead in Feb/beginning of March.

There are 4 phases left of the season

The next 4: at DPL, X, at Hall, NOVA. Two road games against the worst teams and two home games against mid teams. Any road game is loseable, and Nova and X have the talent to beat us if they are on and we are off...But...KenPom favors us by 10+ in each of these games for a reason. 4-0 should be the expectation. 3-1 is possible but would be disappointing.

The first tough stretch: at Butler, UConn, at SJU, at CREI. Were much better than Butler and Creighton, but they like to muck it up and limit the paint so on the road either could surprise us.  We're better than SJU and UConn but either could beat us, especially on the road.  We're favored in 3 of 4 of these and the one were not is a projected 1 point loss.  3-1 should be the expectation but 2-2 is possible.

The reprieve: DPL, HALL. We get a nice gooey center between two tough pieces of bread. This should be an easy 2-0 stretch.

The second tough stretch: at Nova, PROV, at GTWN, at UConn, SJU. The Friars at home dont belong here but it's where they fall. At Nova is loseable but Shaka owns NOVA and I think that continues. I think rumors of GTWNs ressurection are greatly exaggerated but could certainly steal one on the road. At UConn is the toughest conference game and SJU is only a half step behind us. Were favored in 4 of 5 of these games and the 1 is only projected as a one point loss.  Despite that,  I think 3-2 should be the expectation with 4-1 being more likely than 2-3.

Assuming no major injuries,  I think 17-3 is the expectation with 16-4 being the second most likely outcome.  I think 15-5 and 18-2 are roughly about equally likely, and there's an outside shot at 14-6.

I voted for 18-2. They should realistically go 11-0 to start the season before going to St. Johns. Im looking at them in a vacuum of 1 game at a time. Yes, its hard to look vs Uconn, @ St. Johns, @ Creighton and see the team going 3-0. But game by game they are the better team.

am I the only one not convinced we're better than UConn with mcneely? It's close but I don't see a unequivocally clear better team

Quote from: Johnny B on January 13, 2025, 09:35:21 AMam I the only one not convinced we're better than UConn with mcneely? It's close but I don't see a unequivocally clear better team

I'm not "convinced" we're the "unequivocally clear better team." I'm not sure how many Scoopers have either said or suggested such a thing. Indeed, most of those who have commented in the last day or so predicted we'll lose at least once to UConn, with quite a few saying we'll lose twice. Not sure what these Marquette fans are seeing in UConn - or in Marquette - that makes them so certain of that, but whatevs.

What I am convinced of is that UConn has to play Marquette, too, and I don't think UConn is the unequivocally clear better team.

Our team is pretty good.

I think MU and UConn are similar level. Their offense is more consistent, our defense is far better. Turns out Clingan covered up quite a bit.

A split with them seems likely, IMO. That NMD crowd is gonna be ridiculous and it'll get MU over the line.

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 13, 2025, 09:55:22 AMI think MU and UConn are similar level. Their offense is more consistent, our defense is far better. Turns out Clingan covered up quite a bit.

A split with them seems likely, IMO. That NMD crowd is gonna be ridiculous and it'll get MU over the line.

Stephon Castle was an awesome defender, and Tristen Newton was very good too.  It wasn't just Clingan.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 13, 2025, 11:11:45 AMStephon Castle was an awesome defender, and Tristen Newton was very good too.  It wasn't just Clingan.

When I saw Castle play, I thought "this guy belongs in the NBA"

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 13, 2025, 08:45:46 AMThere are 4 phases left of the season

The next 4: at DPL, X, at Hall, NOVA. Two road games against the worst teams and two home games against mid teams. Any road game is loseable, and Nova and X have the talent to beat us if they are on and we are off...But...KenPom favors us by 10+ in each of these games for a reason. 4-0 should be the expectation. 3-1 is possible but would be disappointing.

The first tough stretch: at Butler, UConn, at SJU, at CREI. Were much better than Butler and Creighton, but they like to muck it up and limit the paint so on the road either could surprise us.  We're better than SJU and UConn but either could beat us, especially on the road.  We're favored in 3 of 4 of these and the one were not is a projected 1 point loss.  3-1 should be the expectation but 2-2 is possible.

The reprieve: DPL, HALL. We get a nice gooey center between two tough pieces of bread. This should be an easy 2-0 stretch.

The second tough stretch: at Nova, PROV, at GTWN, at UConn, SJU. The Friars at home dont belong here but it's where they fall. At Nova is loseable but Shaka owns NOVA and I think that continues. I think rumors of GTWNs ressurection are greatly exaggerated but could certainly steal one on the road. At UConn is the toughest conference game and SJU is only a half step behind us. Were favored in 4 of 5 of these games and the 1 is only projected as a one point loss.  Despite that,  I think 3-2 should be the expectation with 4-1 being more likely than 2-3.

Assuming no major injuries,  I think 17-3 is the expectation with 16-4 being the second most likely outcome.  I think 15-5 and 18-2 are roughly about equally likely, and there's an outside shot at 14-6.

So if we are to expect the expectation, Marquette would win the BE and earn a 1 seed in the NCAAt. I'd be ok with that.

31-5, 17-3 would be a lock for a 1 seed. I don't think a first rd loss at the Garden would change that.

30-6, 16-4 is probably right on the back end 1 front end 2 seed territory. Should be good enough for a BE title, possibly a split though. The BE tourney would matter much more here via the possibility of double titles locking up a 1 seed.

The rest would mean 2 seed or worse and likely no BE title, aka Arby's.

That Shaka guy and his squad have really set themselves up with quite the challenge

Good summary TAMU.  I think 17-3 or 16-4 is doable.  Injury could derail that but with health and continued development I think either  record is a real possibility. 

Quote from: DoctorV on January 13, 2025, 10:26:56 PMSo if we are to expect the expectation, Marquette would win the BE and earn a 1 seed in the NCAAt. I'd be ok with that.

31-5, 17-3 would be a lock for a 1 seed. I don't think a first rd loss at the Garden would change that.

30-6, 16-4 is probably right on the back end 1 front end 2 seed territory. Should be good enough for a BE title, possibly a split though. The BE tourney would matter much more here via the possibility of double titles locking up a 1 seed.

The rest would mean 2 seed or worse and likely no BE title, aka Arby's.

That Shaka guy and his squad have really set themselves up with quite the challenge

Marquette has never had a 30 win season in the history of the program. Would only be right that this class be the one to get it...

but if they won out through MSG they would have 32 wins, so 31-5 isn't possible unless I'm reading your post wrong or adding wrong.

Quote from: DoctorV on January 13, 2025, 10:26:56 PMSo if we are to expect the expectation, Marquette would win the BE and earn a 1 seed in the NCAAt. I'd be ok with that.

31-5, 17-3 would be a lock for a 1 seed. I don't think a first rd loss at the Garden would change that.

30-6, 16-4 is probably right on the back end 1 front end 2 seed territory. Should be good enough for a BE title, possibly a split though. The BE tourney would matter much more here via the possibility of double titles locking up a 1 seed.

The rest would mean 2 seed or worse and likely no BE title, aka Arby's.

That Shaka guy and his squad have really set themselves up with quite the challenge

As always it depends. Duke should win out, they are great and the ACC is trash. Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, and Florida are all ahead of us in the AP poll. Playing in the SEC, they could each finish with two,  maybe even the three more losses than us and still be ahead of us on the s-curve. Iowa State can also afford to have 2 more losses than us and have the head to head win if its close.

18-2 could be a 1 seed lock.  I'm not ready to call 17-3 a 1 seed lock.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 13, 2025, 10:47:40 PMMarquette has never had a 30 win season in the history of the program. Would only be right that this class be the one to get it...

but if they won out through MSG they would have 32 wins, so 31-5 isn't possible unless I'm reading your post wrong or adding wrong.

Yea my math was way off, and it wasn't difficult math. Long day I'll try again tomorrow

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2025, 05:14:21 PMBy whom?

See the Big East results thread. I made a comment about the schedule being a lot tougher in the second half and it quickly led to comments about chicken littles and a specific reference to the Eeyore of the board.

Fair.

Quote from: tower912 on January 14, 2025, 06:37:27 AMFair.

Not really. He's spinning.

Posted this when we were 5-0 on Jan 8...so sticking with it. Like TAMU I see our season in phases but broke it down different:

1. we win next 5
2. go 2/3 UC,@STJ, @CR.
3. win 4 more
4. go 2/3 @GT, @UC, STJ.

=18-2 BE

Quote from: wisblue on January 14, 2025, 06:26:27 AMSee the Big East results thread. I made a comment about the schedule being a lot tougher in the second half and it quickly led to comments about chicken littles and a specific reference to the Eeyore of the board.

You certainly are one of the board's contrarians - or, as you like to put it, "realistic" voices.

Isn't it also "realistic," however, to think Marquette could go 18-2 or 17-3 in the Big East this season? Do you think it takes some crazy, pollyanna leap to get there, especially in this year's obviously down Big East? Or is reminding everyone that MU can lose the only way to be realistic?

I mean, all of us know that our alma mater's team can lose or win any game. It's sports and Marquette's not a perfect team (no team is). If it somehow makes you feel better to almost always choose to be "realistic," that's cool. You gotta be who you are, and there are lots and lots of passionate fans who tend to fear the next bump in the road. (Scarred by past Detroit failures, tower has been something like that with his Lions.)

But don't be surprised if optimistic - but plenty realistic - Marquette fans push back with a little Eeyore-related sarcasm.

I know what it is to be pessimistic about good teams. (Cough, Lions, cough)  I know what it is to take grief about it.  And I did. A lot.  As it should be.  I just don't care.   Message board banter.

Quote from: MU82 on January 14, 2025, 09:52:42 AMYou certainly are one of the board's contrarians - or, as you like to put it, "realistic" voices.

Isn't it also "realistic," however, to think Marquette could go 18-2 or 17-3 in the Big East this season? Do you think it takes some crazy, pollyanna leap to get there, especially in this year's obviously down Big East? Or is reminding everyone that MU can lose the only way to be realistic?

I mean, all of us know that our alma mater's team can lose or win any game. It's sports and Marquette's not a perfect team (no team is). If it somehow makes you feel better to almost always choose to be "realistic," that's cool. You gotta be who you are, and there are lots and lots of passionate fans who tend to fear the next bump in the road. (Scarred by past Detroit failures, tower has been something like that with his Lions.)

But don't be surprised if optimistic - but plenty realistic - Marquette fans push back with a little Eeyore-related sarcasm.

I can expect some push back when I make a "realistic" comment that some folks consider too pessimistic. But my comment in that thread simply stated that the second half schedule was more difficult than the first half.

When that triggers "chicken little" and "Eeyore" responses it looks like people are pushing back on the person, not the statement.

Quote from: wisblue on January 14, 2025, 10:24:21 AMI can expect some push back when I make a "realistic" comment that some folks consider too pessimistic. But my comment in that thread simply stated that the second half schedule was more difficult than the first half.

When that triggers "chicken little" and "Eeyore" responses it looks like people are pushing back on the person, not the statement.

I'd have to see the context of what you said, and I'm too lazy to look. But yeah, that our schedule is tougher in the second half is just a fact.

Either way, as tower says, it's just message-board banter. It's OK if you think I'm being too optimistic, too.

Chicoism: ...it isn't what is said, it is who says it.

With 174 votes cast, only 11 of us voted for the inevitable. 163 projos!

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 14, 2025, 10:54:12 AMWith 174 votes cast, only 11 of us voted for the inevitable. 163 projos!

0 votes so far for 14-6

Don't see MU running through the BE. We've played mostly poor competition and only run away with one game. We're a good but not great college basketball team that is going to get everyone's best shot every night.

I chose 15-5 originally. I'll stick with it and hope it's right. I think it's more likely 14-6 than 16-4 or better.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 08:37:57 PMI chose 15-5 originally. I'll stick with it and hope it's right. I think it's more likely 14-6 than 16-4 or better.

After tonight's game it just might be 6-14!

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 14, 2025, 07:50:32 AMPosted this when we were 5-0 on Jan 8...so sticking with it. Like TAMU I see our season in phases but broke it down different:

1. we win next 5
2. go 2/3 UC,@STJ, @CR.
3. win 4 more
4. go 2/3 @GT, @UC, STJ.

=18-2 BE

Yeah this ain't happening

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 11, 2025, 08:55:46 PMMan if MU loses to DePaul, this poll would be toast 😱🤯

Not happenin but the alternate universe thought experiment is wild.

Almost Toast ... Burnt, no butter....almost

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 14, 2025, 08:46:40 PMAfter tonight's game it just might be 6-14!

Seems possible.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 09:08:48 PMSeems possible.

If we win another Big East game this year, Willie will eat his shoes

Willie must have been apoplectic after gooooooolllllllddd brick hit his first four shots

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 14, 2025, 09:12:14 PMWillie must have been apoplectic after gooooooolllllllddd brick hit his first four shots

And relieved when he started missing

MU done in BE, 6-0 suxs!

I may have hit the snooze button, or it could be my age catching up to me.  When the site was updated, what happened to the Big East standings on the home page for Scoop???

Quote from: romey on January 15, 2025, 12:01:01 PMI may have hit the snooze button, or it could be my age catching up to me.  When the site was updated, what happened to the Big East standings on the home page for Scoop???

I just go here:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/269/marquette-golden-eagles

Quote from: wadesworld on January 14, 2025, 08:37:57 PMI chose 15-5 originally. I'll stick with it and hope it's right. I think it's more likely 14-6 than 16-4 or better.

I chose 16-4.  Last night proved we could lose to anyone.  But with that being said, I'm not sure I see where 6 losses would come from with 14 games left, health-permitting. 

@UConn, @ST John's, @Creighton, @Nova, @Georgetown will all be very tough games.  However, I don't expect we'd lose all 5 of those. 

I certainly hope we don't lose at home to Seton Hall and DePaul and I certainly expect to win on the road against Butler and Seton Hall (although I could see Butler being a difficult game).

Then we have home games against Xavier, Villanova, UConn, Providence and St. John's.  We'll be favored in all of them.  Hopefully we can run the table but I'd be pretty surprised if we went any worse than 4-1.

Obviously I could be very wrong and 15-5 might be more likely than 16-4.  Even with our recent struggles 14-6 would be a disappointment after starting 6-0.

Ping

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 14, 2025, 09:12:14 PMWillie must have been apoplectic after gooooooolllllllddd brick hit his first four shots

I was...with joy. About time. He was on fire there.

Quote from: romey on January 15, 2025, 12:01:01 PMI may have hit the snooze button, or it could be my age catching up to me.  When the site was updated, what happened to the Big East standings on the home page for Scoop???

A few weeks ago it was broken, so I turned it off.  Just tried again, and it's working, so...yeah.

Quote from: willie warrior on January 15, 2025, 12:58:13 PMI was...with joy. About time. He was on fire there.

Thank goodness your tough but fair criticism finally got through to him.

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One more ping to make poll visible.
Maybe we can get to 200.

Thanks ... Looks like half say 16-4 and below and the other half 17-3 and better.
199

Can we stop "pinging" this thread? Whoever wants to vote probably already has. This is just going to look embarrassing when we finish fourth in the conference and have 90% of voters picking 16+ wins.

6 and however many games are left

Quote from: wadesworld on January 18, 2025, 02:26:28 PMCan we stop "pinging" this thread? Whoever wants to vote probably already has. This is just going to look embarrassing when we finish fourth in the conference and have 90% of voters picking 16+ wins.

L-O-L

Quote from: wadesworld on January 18, 2025, 02:26:28 PMCan we stop "pinging" this thread? Whoever wants to vote probably already has. This is just going to look embarrassing when we finish fourth in the conference and have 90% of voters picking 16+ wins.

You just "pinged it" wadesworld.
The poll was set to expire today at 12:45 or so (1 week). The last "ping" was last night to make it visible for final votes.
The rest were a 1p thank you and posts by yourself and others.
So if you don't want to see this any more, don't keep posting to it ( or I just might have to respond 😁)

As for the results.. it is what it is.

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 18, 2025, 02:39:46 PMYou just "pinged it" wadesworld.
The poll was set to expire today at 12:45 or so (1 week). The last "ping" was last night to make it visible for final votes.
The rest were a 1p thank you and posts by yourself and others.
So if you don't want to see this any more, don't keep posting to it ( or I just might have to respond 😁)

As for the results.. it is what it is.

Right. It was already the third thread down.

Quote from: wadesworld on January 18, 2025, 02:43:57 PMRight. It was already the third thread down.

Start more threads to bury it

Quote from: wadesworld on January 18, 2025, 02:26:28 PMCan we stop "pinging" this thread? Whoever wants to vote probably already has. This is just going to look embarrassing when we finish fourth in the conference and have 90% of voters picking 16+ wins.

Ping  ;D

Pong

Anser Putter

This poll will be an interesting recap.
Taken when we were 5-0 in BE.

Sticking with 15-5.

PING!

Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2025, 03:23:15 PMSticking with 15-5.

PING!

6-14 looks more and more likely.  Nailed it, I did

Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2025, 03:23:15 PMSticking with 15-5.

PING!

That is where I am.

I won't change from the 15-5 I had at the beginning of the season  though it looks now like 6 or 7 losses is more likely than 5.

It's hilarious the "6 or more losses??????" Was thrown in there as some crazy unthinkable thing now it's totally realistic

I think we'll go 4-3 in final 7.

Ls @ UConn, St. John's and one more unspeakable one. 

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2025, 04:30:59 PMI think we'll go 4-3 in final 7.

Ls @ UConn, St. John's and one more unspeakable one. 

Assuming health, they aren't losing to St. John's at home on Senior Day.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2025, 04:30:59 PMI think we'll go 4-3 in final 7.

Ls @ UConn, St. John's and one more unspeakable one. 

Losing at Villanova or Georgetown would hardly be unspeakable. It's not like MU rolled over those teams here.

The DePaul game is going to be interesting. If MU has  a let down after falling flat in the "big"games, it could turn into a situation like KSU at Iowa State or Butler at MU last year. De Paul will be coming in knowing that they can play with MU.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 04:52:37 PMAssuming health, they aren't losing to St. John's at home on Senior Day.

But can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 08, 2025, 05:03:25 PMBut can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

Chase hurt somebody's feelings. We deserve more as fans!

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 08, 2025, 05:03:25 PMBut can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

No

Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2025, 05:04:35 PMChase hurt somebody's feelings. We deserve more as fans!

LOL that's all ya got?

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 08, 2025, 05:03:25 PMBut can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

Doesn't matter.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 04:52:37 PMAssuming health, they aren't losing to St. John's at home on Senior Day.

Just like they couldn't possibly go down 22 at home to UConn on NMD?  This team is capable of laying massive eggs.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 04:52:37 PMAssuming health, they aren't losing to St. John's at home on Senior Day.

You're so confident saying this why? 

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 06:23:50 PMYou're so confident saying this why? 

Damn, not sure I like agreeing with you but we seem to be on the same wavelength lately.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 06:23:50 PMYou're so confident saying this why? 

Marquette is good...and better at home.

Marquette will have the best player on the floor and a sold out crowd watching one of the winningest classes we have ever seen. We lead at St. John's with 5 minutes to play in a game where we got no production from a lot of guys and our best player was in foul trouble.

We're winning that game.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 06:29:43 PMMarquette is good...and better at home.

Marquette will have the best player on the floor and a sold out crowd watching one of the winningest classes we have ever seen. We lead at St. John's with 5 minutes to play in a game where we got no production from a lot of guys and our best player was in foul trouble.

We're winning that game.

I'm not buying it but hope you're right.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 06:30:43 PMI'm not buying it but hope you're right.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 06:30:43 PMI'm not buying it but hope you're right.

Ok

I'm not saying it will never happen.  They'll have the emotional edge, but we haven't beaten anyone good in two months.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 07:18:53 PMI'm not saying it will never happen.  They'll have the emotional edge, but we haven't beaten anyone good in two months.

You don't consider Creighton good?

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 07:41:20 PMYou don't consider Creighton good?

Yeah, I missed them. Ok one win against a good team in two months.  And many escapes more than wins.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 07:48:16 PMYeah, I missed them. Ok one win against a good team in two months.  And many escapes more than wins.

Again...that boils down to the Big East just being bad. There hasn't been a single game this season that they didn't have a chance in. That's different than years past.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2025, 06:17:48 PMJust like they couldn't possibly go down 22 at home to UConn on NMD?  This team is capable of laying massive eggs.

If all the positive hype of Nat'l Marquette Day made us tight, certainly the last home game of the core group's MU careers will bring a lot of emotion and has that potential. Hopefully it is channeled in the right direction. I am hoping we build some confidence over the next 3-4 weeks so the mental state is in a much better position than it seems to be in now.

I hope we find a way to avoid going 0-8 in these last 7 games.

Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2025, 12:35:36 AMI hope we find a way to avoid going 0-8 in these last 7 games.

That's dumb, we'll win one.  Closer to 5+.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 08, 2025, 06:17:48 PMJust like they couldn't possibly go down 22 at home to UConn on NMD?  This team is capable of laying massive eggs.

Yes they are. And yesterday both Gold and Mitchell laid huge ones

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 07:49:23 PMAgain...that boils down to the Big East just being bad. There hasn't been a single game this season that they didn't have a chance in. That's different than years past.

it's a have/have not season for the conference, definitely. Not calling a BE 3-peat for a natty, but I like this St John's team. I've always been a Pitino fan...as a coach, that is.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on February 08, 2025, 06:23:50 PMYou're so confident saying this why? 

my thought, exactly. (btw, its great for the conference, imo, having St John's/Pitino in the spotlight. Big games at MSG...yes please)

I just don't think St. John's scores enough. Somewhere along the line they are going to get into an game where the other team hits shots and I don't think they'll be able to respond.

Quote from: Viper on February 09, 2025, 08:32:06 AMmy thought, exactly. (btw, its great for the conference, imo, having St John's/Pitino in the spotlight. Big games at MSG...yes please)

Pitino has been nothing but a positive for the BE. 

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 06:29:43 PMMarquette is good...and better at home.

Marquette will have the best player on the floor and a sold out crowd watching one of the winningest classes we have ever seen. We lead at St. John's with 5 minutes to play in a game where we got no production from a lot of guys and our best player was in foul trouble.

We're winning that game.

I'm somewhere between you and Hutch here. Stating unequivocally that we will win (fill in the blank) is, to me, an inherently bad idea. It is not a fact before tipoff.

I think we somehow manage to win this one, but I offer no specifics as to how.

Quote from: willie warrior on February 09, 2025, 06:55:41 AMYes they are. And yesterday both Gold and Mitchell laid huge ones

Thanks Wingdings

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 09, 2025, 08:45:34 AMThanks Wingdings

Ironically his posts would likely make more sense if he used that font.

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 08, 2025, 05:03:25 PMBut can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 08, 2025, 05:03:25 PMBut can they overcome a big, emotional home crowd?

No need, FiFo will be empty as MU continues its losing streak

Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2025, 08:32:29 AMI just don't think St. John's scores enough. Somewhere along the line they are going to get into an game where the other team hits shots and I don't think they'll be able to respond.

Totally agree with this.

Unfortunately, the Big East lacks a serious national title contender this season IMHO. St. John's can't shoot, UConn doesn't take care of the ball, Creighton is too dependent on a decent (but not great) and small PG, and our litany of Scoop-reported problems makes it surprising we've won a single game.

Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2025, 02:36:31 PMTotally agree with this.

Unfortunately, the Big East lacks a serious national title contender this season IMHO. St. John's can't shoot, UConn doesn't take care of the ball, Creighton is too dependent on a decent (but not great) and small PG, and our litany of Scoop-reported problems makes it surprising we've won a single game.

They have an elite defense, one of the best in recent years.

However, they shoot 29% from 3, 49.4% real shooting (268th), terrible at the line and terrible at getting to the line.  They do extend possessions with great offensive rebounding.

Anyone looking at St. John's offense and says, "that's what we need", doesn't know ball.

Pitino did take a team like this to the 2012 Final 4.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 09, 2025, 02:46:18 PMThey have an elite defense, one of the best in recent years.

However, they shoot 29% from 3, 49.4% real shooting (268th), terrible at the line and terrible at getting to the line.  They do extend possessions with great offensive rebounding.

Anyone looking at St. John's offense and says, "that's what we need", doesn't know ball.

Pitino did take a team like this to the 2012 Final 4.

They lack a true Aircraft Carrier to go along with the mid range

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 08, 2025, 06:29:43 PMMarquette is good...and better at home.

Marquette will have the best player on the floor and a sold out crowd watching one of the winningest classes we have ever seen. We lead at St. John's with 5 minutes to play in a game where we got no production from a lot of guys and our best player was in foul trouble.

We're winning that game.

Way more confident than playing Radford.

Now I'm feeling 14-6. Crazy to think that'd feel disappointing since I'd have been happy with it in November, and ecstatic with it in 2022.

Quote from: PointWarrior on February 09, 2025, 03:27:35 PMWay more confident than playing Radford.

No, about the same.

I knew they'd win then, know they'll win now. That's what they do.

This poll taken when we were 5-0 in the BE and a little starry eyed. I questioned 7 losses as impossible but the 5 people who chose it weren't naysayers but the realists.   Who would have thought we'd go 8-7 from that point....those 5 did.

I still have hopes for this year
 We're a decent team playing well. Maybe a S16 depending on matchups.

Seven conference losses is not cutting it sports fans. Time for Shaka to earn his fat salary.

Quote from: willie warrior on March 08, 2025, 03:04:20 PMSeven conference losses is not cutting it sports fans. Time for Shaka to earn his fat salary.

UCONN should've fired Hurley before the NCAA Tourney 2 years ago. 7 conference losses is not cutting it.

4-6 since Feb with our best win @sorberless GT. If you don't think that sucks, print yourself a COLE badge.

But the beauty of the NCAAT is that it is 6 games for everyone (ok, 7 for FF). Would have been a heck of a lot nicer to he a 2 seed, but no reason we can't still make a run.

Quote from: 1SE on March 09, 2025, 01:36:06 AM4-6 since Feb with our best win @sorberless GT. If you don't think that sucks, print yourself a COLE badge.

But the beauty of the NCAAT is that it is 6 games for everyone (ok, 7 for FF). Would have been a heck of a lot nicer to he a 2 seed, but no reason we can't still make a run.

Printed my COLE badge with ganja leaf