AP
3. U Conn
15. Creighton
18. MU
Others Receiving Votes:
Johnnies, X , Providence
Will Post Coaches and NET Rankings Team Sheets When Available
Big East Poll Rankings as of Oct 23
Coaches
3. U Conn
14. Creighton
17. MU
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, X
AP
3. U Conn
15. Creighton
18. MU
Others Receiving Votes:
Johnnies, X , Providence
AP
3. U Conn
14. Creighton
15 MU
22. Johnnies
Others Receiving Votes:
X , Providence
Coaches
3. U Conn
13. Creighton
15. MU
25. Johnnies
Others Receiving Votes
X,Providence
Big East Poll Rankings November 18,2024
AP
2. U Conn
14. Creighton
15 MU
22. Johnnies
Others Receiving Votes:
X , Providence
Coaches
2. U Conn
13. Creighton
14. MU
21. Johnnies
Others Receiving Votes
X
beware of the Johnie's
Marquette moved up to No. 8 in Wednesday morning's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings. Purdue only dropped to No. 9, which caused Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky and Duke to all be pushed down one spot each, no fault of their own.
Jeff Borzello, ESPN Staff Writer
Nov 21, 2024, 09:30 AM ET
It was a great week for the Badger State, as Marquette notched a huge win and skyrocketed up the Power Rankings.
Marquette was incredibly impressive in its 18-point victory over Purdue - - a game that followed a road win at Maryland on Friday. The Golden Eagles have plenty of continuity from last season, starting five juniors or seniors, and they have Kam Jones, who is playing arguably the best basketball of anyone in the country through two weeks. They're a legitimate top-10 team in the country and should be right with UConn at the top of the Big East standings.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 22, 2024, 06:36:10 PMJeff Borzello, ESPN Staff Writer
Nov 21, 2024, 09:30 AM ET
It was a great week for the Badger State, as Marquette notched a huge win and skyrocketed up the Power Rankings.
Marquette was incredibly impressive in its 18-point victory over Purdue - - a game that followed a road win at Maryland on Friday. The Golden Eagles have plenty of continuity from last season, starting five juniors or seniors, and they have Kam Jones, who is playing arguably the best basketball of anyone in the country through two weeks. They're a legitimate top-10 team in the country and should be right with UConn at the top of the Big East standings.
Badger State and Marquette in the same sentence? F him
Big East Poll Rankings November 25,2024
AP
2. U Conn
10.MU
21.Creighton
22.X
Others Receiving Votes:
Johnnies , Providence
Coaches
2. U Conn
11.MU
19.Creighton
22.X
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies
AP Top 25 Poll - Week 4 - Monday, November 25, 2024 (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings) – ESPN
RK Team REC POINTS
1 Kansas (51) 5-0 1536
2 UConn (6) 4-0 1429
3 Gonzaga (2) 5-0 1428
4 Auburn (3) 4-0 1393
5 Iowa State 3-0 1216
6 Houston 3-1 1125
7 Tennessee 6-0 1116
8 Kentucky 5-0 1075
9 Alabama 4-1 1065
10 Marquette 6-0 1004
11 Duke 4-1 986
12 North Carolina 3-1 976
13 Purdue 5-1 865
14 Indiana 4-0 666
15 Wisconsin 7-0 641
16 Cincinnati 5-0 610
17 Baylor 4-2 482
18 Florida 6-0 466
19 Arkansas 4-1 387
20 Texas A&M 4-1 318
21 Creighton 4-1 198
22 Xavier 5-0 191
23 Ole Miss 5-0 180
24 Arizona 2-2 154
25 Mississippi State 5-0 86
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Others receiving votes: BYU 70, Pittsburgh 62, Texas 57, Ohio State 55, Saint Mary's 52, Illinois 50, Memphis 38, Texas Tech 31, Drake 29, Nebraska 21, Michigan State 14, Georgia 11,
St. John's 10, Oregon 10, Penn State 9, Utah State 6, Vanderbilt 6, Nevada 5, UCLA 5, Arizona State 5, Maryland 4,
Providence 3, Furman 2, Columbia 1, Florida State 1, Dayton 0
Dropped from rankings: St. John's 22, Rutgers 24, Illinois 25
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2025 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings (https://kenpom.com/) – Ken Pomeroy
Data through games of Wednesday, November 27 (1389 games)1 Auburn
2 Tennessee
3 Houston
4 Duke
5 Gonzaga
6 Iowa St.
7 Kansas
8 Alabama
9 Cincinnati
10 Marquette11 Kentucky
12 Pittsburgh
13 Purdue
14 St. John's15 Florida
16 Ohio St.
17 North Carolina
18 UCLA
19 Michigan
20 Arizona
21 Baylor
22 Illinois
23 Texas Tech
24 Oregon
25 Dayton26 Mississippi St.
27 Clemson
28 Connecticut29 Texas A&M
30 Wisconsin
31 BYU
32 Texas
33 Memphis
34 Maryland
35 Nevada
36 Arkansas
37 Penn St.
38 Michigan St.
39 Louisville
40 VCU
49 Creighton
54 Xavier
58 Villanova
69 Butler
70 Notre Dame
71 Providence
105 Georgetown
107 Seton Hall
108 DePaul
134 Saint LouisThe first editions of the
NCAA NET Rankings have previously been published in early December.
NCAA Men's Basketball NET Rankings (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings) – NCAA.com - updated daily
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2024, 10:47:22 AMAP Top 25 Poll - Week 4 - Monday, November 25, 2024 (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings) – ESPN
RK Team REC POINTS
1 Kansas (51) 5-0 1536
2 UConn (6) 4-0 1429
3 Gonzaga (2) 5-0 1428
4 Auburn (3) 4-0 1393
5 Iowa State 3-0 1216
6 Houston 3-1 1125
7 Tennessee 6-0 1116
8 Kentucky 5-0 1075
9 Alabama 4-1 1065
10 Marquette 6-0 1004
11 Duke 4-1 986
12 North Carolina 3-1 976
13 Purdue 5-1 865
14 Indiana 4-0 666
15 Wisconsin 7-0 641
16 Cincinnati 5-0 610
17 Baylor 4-2 482
18 Florida 6-0 466
19 Arkansas 4-1 387
20 Texas A&M 4-1 318
21 Creighton 4-1 198
22 Xavier 5-0 191
23 Ole Miss 5-0 180
24 Arizona 2-2 154
25 Mississippi State 5-0 86
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Others receiving votes: BYU 70, Pittsburgh 62, Texas 57, Ohio State 55, Saint Mary's 52, Illinois 50, Memphis 38, Texas Tech 31, Drake 29, Nebraska 21, Michigan State 14, Georgia 11, St. John's 10, Oregon 10, Penn State 9, Utah State 6, Vanderbilt 6, Nevada 5, UCLA 5, Arizona State 5, Maryland 4, Providence 3, Furman 2, Columbia 1, Florida State 1, Dayton 0
Dropped from rankings: St. John's 22, Rutgers 24, Illinois 25
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2025 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings (https://kenpom.com/) – Ken Pomeroy
Data through games of Wednesday, November 27 (1389 games)
1 Auburn
2 Tennessee
3 Houston
4 Duke
5 Gonzaga
6 Iowa St.
7 Kansas
8 Alabama
9 Cincinnati
10 Marquette
11 Kentucky
12 Pittsburgh
13 Purdue
14 St. John's
15 Florida
16 Ohio St.
17 North Carolina
18 UCLA
19 Michigan
20 Arizona
21 Baylor
22 Illinois
23 Texas Tech
24 Oregon
25 Dayton
26 Mississippi St.
27 Clemson
28 Connecticut
29 Texas A&M
30 Wisconsin
31 BYU
32 Texas
33 Memphis
34 Maryland
35 Nevada
36 Arkansas
37 Penn St.
38 Michigan St.
39 Louisville
40 VCU
49 Creighton
54 Xavier
58 Villanova
69 Butler
70 Notre Dame
71 Providence
105 Georgetown
107 Seton Hall
108 DePaul
134 Saint Louis
The first editions of the NCAA NET Rankings have previously been published in early December.
Dayton sucks
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 28, 2024, 11:23:46 AMDayton sucks
With the holyland site going dark forever at the end of the year, expect more squatters like Fieldhouse living on Scoop.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 28, 2024, 11:29:27 AMWith the holyland site going dark forever at the end of the year, expect more squatters like Fieldhouse living on Scoop.
Dayton sucks
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2024, 10:47:22 AMAP Top 25 Poll - Week 4 - Monday, November 25, 2024 (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings) – ESPN
RK Team REC POINTS
1 Kansas (51) 5-0 1536
2 UConn (6) 4-0 1429
3 Gonzaga (2) 5-0 1428
4 Auburn (3) 4-0 1393
5 Iowa State 3-0 1216
6 Houston 3-1 1125
7 Tennessee 6-0 1116
8 Kentucky 5-0 1075
9 Alabama 4-1 1065
10 Marquette 6-0 1004
11 Duke 4-1 986
12 North Carolina 3-1 976
13 Purdue 5-1 865
14 Indiana 4-0 666
15 Wisconsin 7-0 641
16 Cincinnati 5-0 610
17 Baylor 4-2 482
18 Florida 6-0 466
19 Arkansas 4-1 387
20 Texas A&M 4-1 318
21 Creighton 4-1 198
22 Xavier 5-0 191
23 Ole Miss 5-0 180
24 Arizona 2-2 154
25 Mississippi State 5-0 86
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Others receiving votes: BYU 70, Pittsburgh 62, Texas 57, Ohio State 55, Saint Mary's 52, Illinois 50, Memphis 38, Texas Tech 31, Drake 29, Nebraska 21, Michigan State 14, Georgia 11, St. John's 10, Oregon 10, Penn State 9, Utah State 6, Vanderbilt 6, Nevada 5, UCLA 5, Arizona State 5, Maryland 4, Providence 3, Furman 2, Columbia 1, Florida State 1, Dayton 0
Dropped from rankings: St. John's 22, Rutgers 24, Illinois 25
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2025 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings (https://kenpom.com/) – Ken Pomeroy
Data through games of Wednesday, November 27 (1389 games)
1 Auburn
2 Tennessee
3 Houston
4 Duke
5 Gonzaga
6 Iowa St.
7 Kansas
8 Alabama
9 Cincinnati
10 Marquette
11 Kentucky
12 Pittsburgh
13 Purdue
14 St. John's
15 Florida
16 Ohio St.
17 North Carolina
18 UCLA
19 Michigan
20 Arizona
21 Baylor
22 Illinois
23 Texas Tech
24 Oregon
25 Dayton
26 Mississippi St.
27 Clemson
28 Connecticut
29 Texas A&M
30 Wisconsin
31 BYU
32 Texas
33 Memphis
34 Maryland
35 Nevada
36 Arkansas
37 Penn St.
38 Michigan St.
39 Louisville
40 VCU
49 Creighton
54 Xavier
58 Villanova
69 Butler
70 Notre Dame
71 Providence
105 Georgetown
107 Seton Hall
108 DePaul
134 Saint Louis
The first editions of the NCAA NET Rankings have previously been published in early December.
Congrats on being the plumpest pig in the mid pit
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 28, 2024, 11:29:27 AMWith the holyland site going dark forever at the end of the year, expect more squatters like Fieldhouse living on Scoop.
Opportunity to rebrand as just
Scoop and extend the reach. Mods have $$ in their eyes thinking of all the monthly dues they'll collect.
Honestly it might be fun to host refugees, create forums for them. It will dilute the concentration of MU dentists
Dentists and refugees can unite
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 28, 2024, 12:31:10 PMOpportunity to rebrand as just
Scoop and extend the reach. Mods have $$ in their eyes thinking of all the monthly dues they'll collect.
Honestly it might be fun to host refugees, create forums for them. It will dilute the concentration of MU dentists
We should build a wall.
Quote from: MU82 on November 28, 2024, 02:01:49 PMAnd make Dayton pay for it.
Sucker! I knew somebody would take the bait.That's political. Rocky's gonna ban you.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 28, 2024, 02:03:06 PMSucker! I knew somebody would take the bait.That's political. Rocky's gonna ban you.
And make Dayton pay for my ban defense.
I'm OK with refugees, but Fieldhouse is a squatter. Toss his sorry ass into the slammer!
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on November 28, 2024, 10:47:22 AMAP Top 25 Poll - Week 4 - Monday, November 25, 2024 (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings) – ESPN
RK Team REC POINTS
1 Kansas (51) 5-0 1536
2 UConn (6) 4-0 1429
3 Gonzaga (2) 5-0 1428
4 Auburn (3) 4-0 1393
5 Iowa State 3-0 1216
6 Houston 3-1 1125
7 Tennessee 6-0 1116
8 Kentucky 5-0 1075
9 Alabama 4-1 1065
10 Marquette 6-0 1004
11 Duke 4-1 986
12 North Carolina 3-1 976
13 Purdue 5-1 865
14 Indiana 4-0 666
15 Wisconsin 7-0 641
16 Cincinnati 5-0 610
17 Baylor 4-2 482
18 Florida 6-0 466
19 Arkansas 4-1 387
20 Texas A&M 4-1 318
21 Creighton 4-1 198
22 Xavier 5-0 191
23 Ole Miss 5-0 180
24 Arizona 2-2 154
25 Mississippi State 5-0 86
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Others receiving votes: BYU 70, Pittsburgh 62, Texas 57, Ohio State 55, Saint Mary's 52, Illinois 50, Memphis 38, Texas Tech 31, Drake 29, Nebraska 21, Michigan State 14, Georgia 11, St. John's 10, Oregon 10, Penn State 9, Utah State 6, Vanderbilt 6, Nevada 5, UCLA 5, Arizona State 5, Maryland 4, Providence 3, Furman 2, Columbia 1, Florida State 1, Dayton 0
Dropped from rankings: St. John's 22, Rutgers 24, Illinois 25
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2025 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings (https://kenpom.com/) – Ken Pomeroy
Data through games of Wednesday, November 27 (1389 games)
1 Auburn
2 Tennessee
3 Houston
4 Duke
5 Gonzaga
6 Iowa St.
7 Kansas
8 Alabama
9 Cincinnati
10 Marquette
11 Kentucky
12 Pittsburgh
13 Purdue
14 St. John's
15 Florida
16 Ohio St.
17 North Carolina
18 UCLA
19 Michigan
20 Arizona
21 Baylor
22 Illinois
23 Texas Tech
24 Oregon
25 Dayton
26 Mississippi St.
27 Clemson
28 Connecticut
29 Texas A&M
30 Wisconsin
31 BYU
32 Texas
33 Memphis
34 Maryland
35 Nevada
36 Arkansas
37 Penn St.
38 Michigan St.
39 Louisville
40 VCU
49 Creighton
54 Xavier
58 Villanova
69 Butler
70 Notre Dame
71 Providence
105 Georgetown
107 Seton Hall
108 DePaul
134 Saint Louis
The first editions of the NCAA NET Rankings have previously been published in early December.
Nobody gives a Flyers Phugg about Dayton or the A10. Good god what a loser. Go post about Dayton on Dayton's board.
Fwiw i warned everybody when he first came here. I said he was put into his own thread on holyland because he would do this stuff. Wait for his "selective" deep dives into why Dayton has a better program or is a better school than Marquette.
First NET rankings are out:
7 Marquette
39 UConn
42 St. Johns
47 Butler
63 DePaul
92 Villanova
99 Creighton
103 Xavier
104 Providence
128 Georgetown
200 Seton Hall
Its early.... but these rankings are pretty dire for the Big East. We are the only Q1/Q1 game in the BEast (Q1 whether you play us at home or on the road). At this point, we will only get 4 Q1 games in conference play (at UConn/SJU/BUT/DPL?!?!). We can only afford like 4 losses total (including remaining noncon) if we want a 1 seed.
I love the exclamation points after DePaul. :D Wow!
I knew the NET would be bad, but my jaw still dropped when I saw those crappy numbers for our BE brethren. It's a wake-up call for scoopers who blew off the losses in OOC.
Also of note:
17 Wisconsin (Q1B)
19 Iowa State (Q1A)
21 Purdue (Q1B)
23 Maryland (Q1A)
27 Georgia (Q1B)
40 Dayton (Q1A)
79 George Mason (Q3)
113 Central Michigan (Q3)
268 Stonehill (Q4)
311 Weatern Carolina (Q4)
342 Stony Brook (Q4)
If things hold (they won't but they won't move as much as we think), we will play more Q1 games in our 11 non con games than we will in our 20 congruence games.
Last season we played 15 Q1 games (9 Q1A, 6 Q1B) in the regular season. Were currently on pace for 9 Q1 games (3 Q1A, 6 Q1B).
To borrow from Herman, lots of teams screwed the Big East this year.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 02, 2024, 08:23:34 AMFirst NET rankings are out:
7 Marquette
39 UConn
42 St. Johns
47 Butler
63 DePaul
92 Villanova
99 Creighton
103 Xavier
104 Providence
128 Georgetown
200 Seton Hall
Excellent
I really question the quality of the coaching in this conference right now. Neptune, English and Holloway look like duds and Miller hasn't been great.
I think UConn and Creighton will rebound fine and Butler will be better than I thought. Probably St. John's too, but we will see - not sure Pitino still has it.
Holtmann has done well but has played absolutely no one. Cooley is going to need awhile to turn Georgetown around - if he can even do it.
Too many question marks right now. It's pretty bleak at this point.
A new metric on the selection committees team sheet this season is Wins above Bubble (WaB).
Good news, we're currently third in that category. Bad news, Big East play won't give us many chances to stay in 3rd
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/1863586586379636836?t=-LS9TwdwdzDjXO5NTJPqLg&s=19
^^^ yuck
Big East/Big 12 challenge looms large this week. Last chance for the conference to shore up their resumes before we start beating up on each other.
We somehow dont have the worst bottom half of a power confernece. The bottom 9 of the 18 team ACC
91 NC State
97 Notre Dame
115 Wake Forest
125 Virginia
150 Boston College
175 Georgia Tech
177 Syracuse
191 Miami
233 Virginia Tech
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 02, 2024, 09:17:25 AMWe somehow dont have the worst bottom half of a power confernece. The bottom 9 of the 18 team ACC
91 NC State
97 Notre Dame
115 Wake Forest
125 Virginia
150 Boston College
175 Georgia Tech
177 Syracuse
191 Miami
233 Virginia Tech
Excellent
Creighton, Xavier, and PC would be Q2 losses...ON THE ROAD...as it is right there.
Ouch!
Who knows if they will drop or not but George Mason (79) and Central Michigan (113) were great teams to schedule in that challenge. Stony Brook (342) was a real dud. Overall, great job with that MTE.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 02, 2024, 09:52:02 AMWho knows if they will drop or not but George Mason (79) and Central Michigan (113) were great teams to schedule in that challenge. Stony Brook (342) was a real dud. Overall, great job with that MTE.
Stony Brook no matter cause we destroyed them. Cooked the metrics just fine.
Pulling away from GM was huge too.
CMU having a good net is helping the fact we let that game get close
Big East Poll Rankings December 2, 2024
AP
5. MU
25. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
X, Creighton, Johnnies ,DePaul
Coaches
4. MU
Others Receiving Votes
U Conn, X, Johnnies, Creighton
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 02, 2024, 08:23:34 AMFirst NET rankings are out:
7 Marquette
39 UConn
42 St. Johns
47 Butler
63 DePaul
92 Villanova
99 Creighton
103 Xavier
104 Providence
128 Georgetown
200 Seton Hall
Just as all of us predicted, DePaul has a better NET than Creighton, Xavier and Nova would.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on December 02, 2024, 08:40:12 AMIt's a wake-up call for scoopers who blew off the losses in OOC.
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/YZfXa4lRtBEAAAAd/come-of.gif)
Quote from: MU82 on December 02, 2024, 02:20:46 PMJust as all of us predicted, DePaul has a better NET than Creighton, Xavier and Nova would.
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/YZfXa4lRtBEAAAAd/come-of.gif)
Love your sense of humor MU82. Wear that Elizabethan collar for at least one month as penance. It looks good on you, and you deserve it.
NM
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on December 02, 2024, 02:52:10 PMLove your sense of humor MU82. Wear that Elizabethan collar for at least one month as penance. It looks good on you, and you deserve it.
Sorry, but I won't wear it tomorrow while I'm rooting for Michigan to beat Wisconsin.
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 2, 2024
New Old
6 7 Marquette
38 39 UConn
42 42 St. John's
45 47 Butler
64 63 DePaul
90 92 Villanova
98 99 Creighton
102 103 Xavier
104 104 Providence
107 128 Georgetown
201 200 Seton Hall
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 03, 2024, 09:12:27 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 2, 2024
New Old
6 7 Marquette
38 39 UConn
42 42 St. John's
45 47 Butler
64 63 DePaul
90 92 Villanova
98 99 Creighton
102 103 Xavier
104 104 Providence
107 128 Georgetown
201 200 Seton Hall
A good overall day for the BE and their improvement in the NET.
Thank you for these important updates.
A win over UMBC no matta? The Hoyas rocketed up the NET rankings.
Florida dropped below Marquette on a night neither team played. I find that amusing.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 03, 2024, 10:54:58 AMFlorida dropped below Marquette on a night neither team played. I find that amusing.
And no one on their schedules played either. Must be neck and neck.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 03, 2024, 10:54:58 AMFlorida dropped below Marquette on a night neither team played. I find that amusing.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/874899cfcc391d460d780da347dfab24/tumblr_ofoomdeQaU1tu6tfso1_540.gif)
Nova jumped from 90-76
Prov from 104-81
Both still Q2 road games for us. But climbing big time.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 04, 2024, 07:03:42 AMNova jumped from 90-76
Prov from 104-81
Both still Q2 road games for us. But climbing big time.
Excellent
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 04, 2024, 07:03:42 AMNova jumped from 90-76
Prov from 104-81
Both still Q2 road games for us. But climbing big time.
Georgia also jumped from 28 to 19 putting them inside Q1A territory. There will be more movement for sure, but glad it's all positive so far.
Not sure where to put this, but Kam recently moved up to #3 in the kenpom poy rankings, behind Broome and Flagg.
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 3, 2024
New Old
6 6 Marquette
38 42 St. John's
41 38 UConn
45 45 Butler
56 64 DePaul
76 90 Villanova
81 104 Providence
88 102 Xavier
93 98 Creighton
112 107 Georgetown
201 201 Seton Hall
No updates on Marquette's credit score
Marquette's NET Ranking is # 7 today
Interesting stat:
Assuming my math is correct, the top 40 in NET are a combined 182-3 at home. The three Q1A road wins so far:
#7 Marquette at #14 Maryland
#12 Pittsburgh at #20 Ohio State
#19 Michigan at #29 Wisconsin
In an interesting quirk, teams 41-44 all have a home loss. They have 13-4 combined home record.
Big East NET Rankings as of games of December 4, 2024
New Old
7 6 Marquette
34 41 UConn
42 45 Butler
47 38 St. John's
71 56 DePaul
75 93 Creighton
77 76 Villanova
80 81 Providence
87 88 Xavier
106 112 Georgetown
199 201 Seton Hall
Lost a Q1 last night for now
Purdue not looking like Edey purdue
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2024, 09:01:55 AMLost a Q1 last night for now
Purdue not looking like Edey purdue
Going to hurt our tire inflation
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2024, 09:01:55 AMLost a Q1 last night for now
Purdue not looking like Edey purdue
That's putting it very mildly. They looked like a cupcake for most of the game. I was really surprised that they got it to a "respectable loss" after trailing by 26 at one point. Eerie that their score was the same as our ISU-81-70. It is only one game, but I cannot help but wonder what our W will be worth by March.
Eh, winning on the road is hard, they're still a very very good team at Mackey, see Bama. If they get run out of the gym against A&M and Auburn there might be a cause for worry, but even then, they're still a top 4-5 team in the B18 and we beat them by 18. It might not be as good of a win as it would have been in years previous, but it'll still age well IMO.
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 06, 2024, 09:39:56 AMEh, winning on the road is hard, they're still a very very good team at Mackey, see Bama. If they get run out of the gym against A&M and Auburn there might be a cause for worry, but even then, they're still a top 4-5 team in the B18 and we beat them by 18. It might not be as good of a win as it would have been in years previous, but it'll still age well IMO.
Thanks for this post. You're right-too soon to get nervous, but what feces show, huh? ;D
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on December 06, 2024, 09:42:47 AMThanks for this post. You're right-too soon to get nervous, but what feces show, huh? ;D
That's the thing about sports, no matter how big of a feces show a game is, the next one still starts 0-0.
Big East NET rankings as of games od December 5, 2024
New Old
8 7 Marquette
33 34 UConn
42 42 Butler
46 47 St. John's
70 71 DePaul
74 75 Creighton
76 80 Providence
77 77 Villanova
90 87 Xavier
103 106 Georgetown
199 199 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 6 , 2024
New Old
7 8 Marquette
32 33 UConn
38 42 Butler
44 46 St. John's
70 70 DePaul
74 74 Creighton
77 76 Providence
78 77 Villanova
91 90 Xavier
106 103 Georgetown
201 199 Seton Hall
Marquette's NET Ranking is #7 Again Today
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 7, 2024
New Old
7 7 Marquette
34 32 UConn
39 44 St.Johns
58 38 Butler
65 78 Villanova
72 70 DePaul
75 74 Creighton
78 77 Providence
93 91 Xavier
101 106 Georgetown
194 201 Seton Hall
A home win over a crapty team like Madison doesn't let us move up in the rankings.
Quote from: MU82 on December 08, 2024, 10:40:19 AMA home win over a crapty team like Madison doesn't let us move up in the rankings.
Going to hurt NET
Marquette's NET Ranking is #6 Today
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 8, 2024
New Old
6 7 Marquette
24 34 UConn
38 39 St. John's
59 58 Butler
66 65 Villanova
70 72 DePaul
75 75 Creighton
77 78 Providence
90 93 Xavier
100 101 Georgetown
210 194 Seton Hall
Big East Poll Rankings December 9, 2024
AP
6. MU
18. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, Creighton
Coaches
4.MU
20.U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, Creighton
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 9, 2024
New Old
7 6 Marquette
22 24 UConn
37 38 St. John's
58 59 Butler
65 66 Villanova
69 70 DePaul
75 75 Creighton
76 77 Providence
90 90 Xavier
100 100 Georgetown
206 210 Seton Hall
Rooting for DePaul to finish in top half of BE. I know that's hopeful. Tough OT loss tonight v Providence.
Big Ten NET rankings as of games of December 10, 2024
New Old
7 7 Marquette
21 22 UConn
37 37 St. John's
63 65 Villanova
71 58 Butler
72 76 Providence
74 75 Creighton
75 90 Xavier
82 69 DePaul
99 100 Georgetown
202 206 Seton Hall
Excellent jump for Seton Hall and, as a result, the Big East as a whole. Thank you, Hermie.
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 11,2024
New Old
6 7 Marquette
21 21 UConn
36 37 St. John's
69 63 Villanova
71 71 Butler
72 72 Providence
74 74 Creighton
75 75 Xavier
83 82 DePaul
99 99 Georgetown
199 202 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 12, 2024
New Old
7 6 Marquette
20 21 UConn
36 36 St. John's
68 69 Villanova
71 71 Butler
72 72 Providence
74 74 Creighton
75 75 Xavier
84 83 DePaul
96 99 Georgetown
197 199 Seton Hall
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 13, 2024, 07:58:03 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 12, 2024
New Old
7 6 Marquette
20 21 UConn
36 36 St. John's
68 69 Villanova
71 71 Butler
72 72 Providence
74 74 Creighton
75 75 Xavier
84 83 DePaul
96 99 Georgetown
197 199 Seton Hall
Unacceptable that we went from 6 to 7 (Muggsy hacked this account)
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 13, 2024, 08:11:30 AMUnacceptable that we went from 6 to 7 (Muggsy hacked this account)
Xavier sucks
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 13, 2024
New Old
7 7 Marquette
20 20 UConn
36 36 St. John's
68 68 Villanova
71 71 Butler
73 74 Creighton
74 72 Providence
75 75 Xavier
85 84 DePaul
97 96 Georgetown
197 197 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 14, 2024
New Old
9 7 Marquette
11 20 UConn
37 36 St. John's
67 73 Creighton
69 85 DePaul
70 68 Villanova
74 74 Providence
76 71 Butler
77 75 Xavier
91 97 Georgetown
182 197 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 15, 2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
11 11 UConn
37 37 St. John's
68 70 Villanova
69 67 Creighton
70 69 DePaul
74 74 Providence
75 77 Xavier
76 76 Butler
92 91 Georgetown
185 182 Seton Hall
Big East Poll Rankings December 15, 2024
AP
9. MU
11. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, Creighton
Coaches
9.MU
13.U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies , Creighton
Big East Odds to Make NCAA Tournament (via @TeamRankings)
Marquette- 99%
UConn- 98%
St John's- 84%
Creighton- 63%
Xavier- 24%
Villanova- 24%
Butler- 14%
Providence- 6%
DePaul- 3%
Georgetown- 2%
Seton Hall- 0%
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 16, 2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
11 11 UConn
37 37 St. John's
68 68 Villanova
69 69 Creighton
70 70 DePaul
74 74 Providence
76 75 Xavier
77 76 Butler
93 92 Georgetown
184 185 Seton Hall
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 17, 2024, 10:39:36 AMBig East Odds to Make NCAA Tournament (via @TeamRankings)
Marquette- 99%
UConn- 98%
St John's- 84%
Creighton- 63%
Xavier- 24%
Villanova- 24%
Butler- 14%
Providence- 6%
DePaul- 3%
Georgetown- 2%
Seton Hall- 0%
What about NIT odds?
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 17,2024
New Old
11 9 Marquette
12 11 UConn
23 37 St. John's
67 69 Creighton
68 68 Villanova
73 76 Xavier
74 77 Butler
77 74 Providence
81 70 DePaul
95 93 Georgetown
179 184 Seton Hall
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 18, 2024, 11:51:24 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 17,2024
New Old
11 9 Marquette
12 11 UConn
23 37 St. John's
67 69 Creighton
68 68 Villanova
73 76 Xavier
74 77 Butler
77 74 Providence
81 70 DePaul
95 93 Georgetown
179 184 Seton Hall
Out of top 10, unacceptable
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 18,2024
New Old
10 11 Marquette
14 12 UConn
22 23 St. John's
65 68 Villanova
68 73 Xavier
75 74 Butler
76 77 Providence
79 95 Georgetown
80 67 Creighton
82 81 DePaul
184 179 Seton Hall
Bracketology (https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2025-march-madness-men-field-predictions) - Joe Lunardi, ESPN - updated Monday, December 17, 2024
QuoteLast 4 In (play-in game at UD Arena): #11 Creighton
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 19, 2024, 06:42:48 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 18, 2024
New Old
10 11 Marquette
14 12 UConn
22 23 St. John's
65 68 Villanova
68 73 Xavier
75 74 Butler
76 77 Providence
79 95 Georgetown
80 67 Creighton
82 81 DePaul
184 179 Seton Hall
Bye-bye Bluejays. Congratulations on another impressive win.FWIW, Joe Lunardi f*cked up his latest edition of Bracketology. The tabulation at the bottom of the webpage includes five Big East Teams:
#2 Marquette, #4 UConn, #7 St. Johns, #11 Creighton, and the Big East's Automatic Qualifier
#11 Providence+, (MIDWEST INDIANAPOLIS REGION), designated as a 'play-in team' at UD Arena, but not shown as such in Joe's summary box at the top of the webpage.
Joe Lunardi needs to up his game. So does the Big East Conference, who is now staring at three NCAA bids.
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on December 19, 2024, 11:07:45 AMBracketology (https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2025-march-madness-men-field-predictions) - Joe Lunardi, ESPN - updated Monday, December 17, 2024
Bye-bye Bluejays. Congratulations on another impressive win.
FWIW, Joe Lunardi f*cked up his latest edition of Bracketology. The tabulation at the bottom of the webpage includes five Big East Teams: #2 Marquette, #4 UConn, #7 St. Johns, #11 Creighton, and the Big East's Automatic Qualifier #11 Providence+, (MIDWEST INDIANAPOLIS REGION), designated as a 'play-in team' at UD Arena, but not shown as such in Joe's summary box at the top of the webpage.
Joe Lunardi needs to up his game. So does the Big East Conference, who is now staring at three NCAA bids.
Dayton sucks
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on December 19, 2024, 11:07:45 AMBracketology (https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2025-march-madness-men-field-predictions) - Joe Lunardi, ESPN - updated Monday, December 17, 2024
Bye-bye Bluejays. Congratulations on another impressive win.
FWIW, Joe Lunardi f*cked up his latest edition of Bracketology. The tabulation at the bottom of the webpage includes five Big East Teams: #2 Marquette, #4 UConn, #7 St. Johns, #11 Creighton, and the Big East's Automatic Qualifier #11 Providence+, (MIDWEST INDIANAPOLIS REGION), designated as a 'play-in team' at UD Arena, but not shown as such in Joe's summary box at the top of the webpage.
Joe Lunardi needs to up his game. So does the Big East Conference, who is now staring at three NCAA bids.
His latest edition of Bracketology didn't have Creighton losing to Georegtown.
We'll come calling the A10 soon, begging for entry like Dayton fans predicted.
Honest question. Why do you post here? Do you think anybody here cares how Dayton or the A10 does, outside of 12/14? Besides your useless posts here, I will not think about Dayton until gameday next year. I'm guessing most Marquette fans feel the same, yet for some reason you seem to think Marquette fans sit around obsessing over Dayton.
He isn't lying or inaccurate. And he is getting a reaction without effort. Quit being an Asian carp to his rowboat.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 19, 2024, 11:41:01 AMHis latest edition of Bracketology didn't have Creighton losing to Georegtown.
We'll come calling the A10 soon, begging for entry like Dayton fans predicted.
Honest question. Why do you post here? Do you think anybody here cares how Dayton or the A10 does, outside of 12/14? Besides your useless posts here, I will not think about Dayton until gameday next year. I'm guessing most Marquette fans feel the same, yet for some reason you seem to think Marquette fans sit around obsessing over Dayton.
TBF, I think we also cared about how the A10 does on Nov 8.
Quote from: Fieldhouse Flyer on December 19, 2024, 11:07:45 AMBracketology (https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2025-march-madness-men-field-predictions) - Joe Lunardi, ESPN - updated Monday, December 17, 2024
Bye-bye Bluejays. Congratulations on another impressive win.
FWIW, Joe Lunardi f*cked up his latest edition of Bracketology. The tabulation at the bottom of the webpage includes five Big East Teams: #2 Marquette, #4 UConn, #7 St. Johns, #11 Creighton, and the Big East's Automatic Qualifier #11 Providence+, (MIDWEST INDIANAPOLIS REGION), designated as a 'play-in team' at UD Arena, but not shown as such in Joe's summary box at the top of the webpage.
Joe Lunardi needs to up his game. So does the Big East Conference, who is now staring at three NCAA bids.
Referencing a middle of the road bracketologist is what I'd expect from a grad of the Forbes: 169th
U.S. News & World Report: 136th
Washington Monthly: 137th
Wall Street Journal 78th
An alum of a better school might do some research on bracket matrix and reference a person with a better track record.
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2024, 12:15:03 PMHe isn't lying or inaccurate. And he is getting a reaction without effort. Quit being an Asian carp to his rowboat.
Is the "he" in your post Lunardi or Fieldhouse?
Looking at any bracketologist at this point is foolish. Bracketmatrix can give a good consensus, but is slow to update this time of year.
Things people actually may want to pay attention to, Georgia moved from Q1B to Q1A, Purdue is on the verge of moving back to Q1B from Q2A, Butler is on the verge of moving from Q2B to Q3, Central Michigan is close to moving back to Q3. All matter much more than what one (historically bad) bracketologist thinks.
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2024, 12:15:03 PMQuit being an Asian carp to his rowboat.
This is a great saying.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 19, 2024, 12:29:28 PMThis is a great saying.
Thanks. I thought 'Telfort was pulling shots out of his dentist' was better, but it didn't get the reaction I expected.
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2024, 12:36:56 PMThanks. I thought 'Telfort was pulling shots out of his dentist' was better, but it didn't get the reaction I expected.
Read it laughed but no comment to avoid the drama.
;D
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2024, 12:36:56 PMThanks. I thought 'Telfort was pulling shots out of his dentist' was better, but it didn't get the reaction I expected.
It deserved more. I laughed loud enough that my neighbor heard me.
Marquette's NET Ranking stays at #10 Today
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 20, 2024, 07:59:20 AMMarquette's NET Ranking stays at #10 Today
That's a breath of fresh air Mike
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 19, 2024
New Old
10 10 Marquette
13 14 UConn
22 22 St. John's
65 65 Villanova
68 68 Xavier
74 75 Butler
76 76 Providence
79 79 Georgetown
80 80 Creighton
82 82 DePaul
183 184 Seton Hall
Quote from: tower912 on December 19, 2024, 12:36:56 PMThanks. I thought 'Telfort was pulling shots out of his dentist' was better, but it didn't get the reaction I expected.
This one was pretty good, I laughed out loud at this! I just like my dentist too much to support these sort of stereotypes. ;D
Quote from: UWW2MU on December 20, 2024, 08:14:03 AMThis one was pretty good, I laughed out loud at this! I just like my dentist too much to support these sort of stereotypes. ;D
We got the stereotypes here
If St. John's and UCONN could each take one for the good of the conference and let Butler, Providence, Georgetown, Creighton, and DePaul split with both of them to ensure they're all Q1 road games, that would be greatly appreciated by this Marquette fan.
Marquette's NET stays at #10 again today
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 20, 2024
New Old
10 10 Marquette
14 13 UConn
23 22 St. John's
63 65 Villanova
67 68 Xavier
74 76 Providence
76 74 Butler
79 79 Georgetown
80 80 Creighton
82 82 DePaul
181 183 Seton Hall
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 21, 2024, 12:53:27 AMMarquette's NET stays at #10 again today
Thanks for beating Buffoon Cain to this each day
Marquette NET is #10 yet again today
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 21,2024
New Old
10 10 Marquette
14 14 UConn
27 23 St. John's
65 63 Villanova
67 67 Xavier
72 76 Butler
73 74 Providence
76 80 Creighton
77 79 Georgetown
85 82 DePaul
172 181 Seton Hall
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on December 22, 2024, 12:39:57 AMMarquette NET is #10 yet again today
Thanks for beating Buffoon Cain again today
That Purdue loss really hurt us
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 22,2024
New Old
9 10 Marquette
16 14 UConn
28 27 St. John's
64 67 Xavier
66 65 Villanova
71 72 Butler
74 76 Creighton
76 73 Providence
78 77 Georgetown
86 85 DePaul
176 172 Seton Hall
Big East Poll Rankings December 23, 2024
AP
8. MU
11. U CONN
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies
Coaches
8. MU
14. U Conn
24. Johnnies
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 23, 2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
16 16 UConn
28 28 St. John's
64 64 Xavier
66 66 Villanova
71 71 Butler
73 74 Creighton
75 76 Providence
78 78 Georgetown
87 86 DePaul
175 176 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 25, 2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
16 16 UConn
28 28 St. John's
64 64 Xavier
66 66 Villanova
70 71 Butler
72 73 Creighton
75 75 Providence
78 78 Georgetown
87 87 DePaul
176 175 Seton Hall
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 27,2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
16 16 UConn
28 28 St. John's
64 64 Xavier
66 66 Villanova
70 70 Butler
72 72 Creighton
75 75 Providence
78 78 Georgetown
87 87 DePaul
176 176 Seton Hall
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 28, 2024, 07:37:26 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 27,2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
16 16 UConn
28 28 St. John's
64 64 Xavier
66 66 Villanova
70 70 Butler
72 72 Creighton
75 75 Providence
78 78 Georgetown
87 87 DePaul
176 176 Seton Hall
Wow. Quite illuminating.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2024, 08:07:41 AMWow. Quite illuminating.
Lots of movement from the previous day.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2024, 08:07:41 AMWow. Quite illuminating.
I'm sure Herman is part of the Illuminati
Marquette' NET ranking is #11 Today as George Mason did not cover the spread and Maryland did not come close to covering the spread against Maryland Eastern Shore. But Marquette is tied for the most combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins in the Nation with Oregon and Auburn with 6 Wins each.
Auburn 6 Quad 1 Wins
Oregon 4 Quad 1 Wins and 2 Quad 2 Wins
Marquette 3 Quad 1 Wins and 3 Quad 2 Wins.
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 28, 2024
New Old
11 9 Marquette
17 16 UConn
29 28 St. John's
64 64 Xavier
66 66 Villanova
71 70 Butler
73 72 Creighton
74 75 Providence
78 78 Georgetown
87 87 DePaul
177 176 Seton Hall
the big east is going to be a war! my biggest fears-
uconn-duh and st johnny on any floor
creighton and providence on the road
staying healthy
rick pitino dating habits
NET hates MU
https://nypost.com/2024/12/27/sports/st-johns-3-point-shooting-could-be-pivotal-in-how-season-shakes-out/
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 29, 2024
New Old
12 11 Marquette
18 17 UConn
29 29 St. John's
62 64 Xavier
65 66 Villanova
70 71 Butler
71 73 Creighton
72 74 Providence
77 78 Georgetown
86 87 DePaul
179 177 Seton Hall
Marquette's Team Sheet for anyone looking to stay up to date with their live résumé.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 30, 2024, 09:04:44 AMMarquette's Team Sheet for anyone looking to stay up to date with their live résumé.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette
I also like going directly to the NCAA RPI archive page to see the real team sheets that the committee uses. Warren Nolan makes everything much easier to read and decipher, but the NCAA one puts future games under each quadrant.
See here:
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/41908/teams/590554/team_sheet
But you have to look at the new page for a given date, as they are static links for each day.
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/season_divisions/18403/nitty_gritties
Big East Poll Rankings December 30, 2024
AP
8. MU
11. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies
Coaches
8. MU
13. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 30, 2024, 06:41:13 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of December 29, 2024
New Old
12 11 Marquette
18 17 UConn
29 29 St. John's
62 64 Xavier
65 66 Villanova
70 71 Butler
71 73 Creighton
72 74 Providence
77 78 Georgetown
86 87 DePaul
179 177 Seton Hall
The NET really really hates MU
Marquette is #12 in the NET. Marquette has won tough games and leads the country with 6 combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins along with Oregon and Auburn.
Arizona is #26 in the NET and has obliterated cupcakes but has 0 Zero combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins.
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 31, 2024
New Old
12 12 Marquette
17 18 UConn
29 29 St. John's
62 62 Xavier
66 65 Villanova
70 71 Creighton
71 70 Butler
72 72 Providence
77 77 Georgetown
87 86 DePaul
176 179 Seton Hall
December 31 Team Sheets . MU is 12
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Moved up a spot to 8 in KenPom.
Defense from 22 to 10. Offense from 16 to 12.
Marquette's NET Ranking is #8 Today
Marquette leads the nation with 7 combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins. Ahead of Auburn and Oregon's 6
Big East NET rankings as of games of December 31, 2024
New Old
8 12 Marquette
16 17 UConn
33 29 St. John's
55 62 Xavier
65 70 Creighton
66 71 Butler
70 66 Villanova
77 77 Georgetown
88 72 Providence
89 87 DePaul
190 176 Seton Hall
January 1 Team Sheets . MU is 8.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
We knocked Providence comfortably out of Q1 road win territory. :-[
Showing my ignorance....does the movement from NET 12 Tto 8 (after a blowout win) mean that it takes margin of victory into account or is there some other math that did that?
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 01, 2025, 09:31:18 AMShowing my ignorance....does the movement from NET 12 Tto 8 (after a blowout win) mean that it takes margin of victory into account or is there some other math that did that?
Yes, margin of victory (capped at 20 i believe) combined with the increases in our offensive and defensive efficiency metrics as a result of the blowout.
Quote from: YoungMUFan4 on January 01, 2025, 09:33:09 AMYes, margin of victory (capped at 20 i believe) combined with the increases in our offensive and defensive efficiency metrics as a result of the blowout.
Plus win away
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 01, 2025, 09:31:18 AMShowing my ignorance....does the movement from NET 12 Tto 8 (after a blowout win) mean that it takes margin of victory into account or is there some other math that did that?
Quote from: YoungMUFan4 on January 01, 2025, 09:33:09 AMYes, margin of victory (capped at 20 i believe) combined with the increases in our offensive and defensive efficiency metrics as a result of the blowout.
Youngs information is outdated. Margin of victory was a factor and used to be capped at 10. In 2020 they changed the formula and dropped margin of victory. That being said margin of victory is a good barometer for how much a specific game will impact the NET. Reason being is that offensive/defensive efficiency are still considered in the NET. Generally the larger the margin of victory, the higher efficiency score.
The reason last nights game was so good for our NET (in addition to the 28 point margin of victory and it being on the road) was because it was a relatively low possession game. There were only 62 possessions last night (we average around 69 a game). Essentially we increased our lead over PC by .45 points every posession. If we played our normal pace of 69 possessions, we would have had to beat them by 32 in order to match our efficiency from last night.
TLDR: Margin of victory is technically not a factor but in general the bigger the margin of victory the better it is for your NET.
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 1,2025
New Old
8 8 Marquette
16 16 UConn
33 33 St. John's
56 55 Xavier
63 70 Villanova
66 65 Creighton
77 77 Georgetown
82 66 Butler
88 88 Providence
89 89 DePaul
190 190 Seton Hall
January 2 Team Sheets . MU is 8
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
UW is 31 in the NET. Purdue is 36 in the NET.
If either can get into the Top 30 they will become Q1 wins for us.
Currently 3-2 in Q1 and 3-0 in Q2.
Butlers collapse last night plummeted them from Q2 to Q3
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 2, 2025
New Old
9 8 Marquette
12 16 UConn
36 33 St. John's
57 56 Xavier
61 63 Villanova
64 66 Creighton
77 77 Georgetown
79 82 Butler
88 88 Providence
90 89 DePaul
189 190 Seton Hall
January 3 Team Sheets . MU is 9
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 03, 2025, 10:29:53 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of January 2, 2025
New Old
9 8 Marquette
12 16 UConn
36 33 St. John's
57 56 Xavier
61 63 Villanova
64 66 Creighton
77 77 Georgetown
79 82 Butler
88 88 Providence
90 89 DePaul
189 190 Seton Hall
January 3 Team Sheets . MU is 9
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Unacceptable
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 3, 2024
New Old
9 9 Marquette
13 12 UConn
38 36 St. John's
60 57 Xavier
61 61 Villanova
62 64 Creighton
75 77 Georgetown
78 79 Butler
88 88 Providence
90 90 DePaul
199 189 Seton Hall
January 4 Team Sheets. MU is 9
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Creighton moved up, MU remains status quo.
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2025, 07:22:40 AMCreighton moved up, MU remains status quo.
Unacceptable, Muggsy should take care of this pronto
Quote from: tower912 on January 04, 2025, 07:22:40 AMCreighton moved up, MU remains status quo.
Tells you how Creighton has fallen - lose by "only" 8 and move up.
Quote from: MU82 on January 04, 2025, 10:52:49 AMTells you how Creighton has fallen - lose by "only" 8 and move up.
McDermott is screwing the Big East.
Marquette leads the nation and is the only team with 7 Combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins! But it will change tomorrow as Auburn will tie us with 7
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 04, 2025, 11:05:03 PMMarquette leads the nation and is the only team with 7 Combined Quad 1 and Quad 2 Wins! But it will change tomorrow as Auburn will tie us with 7
I have been throwing this stat out there too but it is wrong. Memphis has 9 combined Q1 and Q2 wins (6-0 Q2). Auburn and MU are tied for second with 7.
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 4, 2025
New Old
10 9 Marquette
17 13 UConn
39 38 St. John's
51 61 Villanova
61 62 Creighton
62 60 Xavier
73 75 Georgetown
79 78 Butler
89 88 Providence
104 90 DePaul
196 199 Seton Hall
January 5 Team Sheets. MU is 10
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
The NET completely hates MU
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 05, 2025, 09:06:12 AMThe NET completely hates MU
Who thinks less of MU? NET or some scoopers?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 05, 2025, 09:11:22 AMWho thinks less of MU? NET or some scoopers?
This is an easy question to answer, scoopers led by Willard & dentists
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 5, 2025
New Old
11 10 Marquette
22 17 UConn
38 39 St. John's
50 51 Villanova
59 61 Creighton
62 62 Xavier
73 73 Georgetown
78 79 Butler
82 89 Providence
106 104 DePaul
198 196 Seton Hall
January 6 Team Sheets. MU is 11
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Hoping on attrition to rise. We will (should) win the next 6 until a critical 3 game set: UCONN, @STJ, @CR
that's where we earn top 5 poll, top 5 KP, and 1-seed standing.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on January 06, 2025, 08:16:25 AMHoping on attrition to rise. We will (should) win the next 6 until a critical 3 game set: UCONN, @STJ, @CR
that's where we earn top 5 poll, top 5 KP, and 1-seed standing.
I think the most dangerous game before NMD is tomorrow. Thomas Sorber is awesome and Georgetown has been playing like a top-10 team when he's on the floor. Cooley has figured that out and he's playing 34.6 mpg in conference play. I'm glad they're undefeated, because they would be easy to overlook otherwise.
Another thing to note, if we're going to get to a 1-seed our biggest barrier are the predictive metrics. We need to outperform our point spreads if we want to get up there. It's not just the winning, but winning big. Otherwise, with Iowa State, Duke, and the strength at the top of the SEC, we might be stuck on a 2-seed.
Thanks Brew, always helpful.
So beat everyone big, lose 3x or less from now until selection Sunday, have a ton of fun along the way and get the 1 seed.
The fellas got this!
Giddyup
I thought consensus on Scoop is the next game is the most important game.
Given Marquette basketball history since the late-1970s, the phrase "stuck on a 2-seed" makes me pretty happy for some reason.
Forgive my ignorance...so #1 seeds make the FF.....#2 seeds lose in the first round?
16 or 15
7 or 8
3 or 4
2 vs 1.
Similar level competition regardless. I for one would love another #2 seed. If we could get a #1 thats great. Shaka isnt going to "win big" vs the spread to get a 1 seed. He would rather get run for Tre, Zaide, DO, Caedin, Royce over the next 1.5 months which will pay dividends in the tourney.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 06, 2025, 10:10:07 AMForgive my ignorance...so #1 seeds make the FF.....#2 seeds lose in the first round?
16 or 15
7 or 8
3 or 4
2 vs 1.
Similar level competition regardless. I for one would love another #2 seed. If we could get a #1 thats great. Shaka isnt going to "win big" vs the spread to get a 1 seed. He would rather get run for Tre, Zaide, DO, Caedin, Royce over the next 1.5 months which will pay dividends in the tourney.
When it comes to winning a national championship, you can do it from a 2 or 3 seed, but the odds go way down. Here are the results by seed:
1-seed: 25 (64.1%) - Last was 2024 UConn
2-seed: 5 (12.8%) - Last was 2016 Villanova
3-seed: 4 (10.3%) - Last was 2011 UConn
4-seed: 2 (5.1%) - Last was 2023 UConn
5-seed: 0 (0.0%)
6-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1988 Kansas
7-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 2014 UConn
8-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1985 Villanova
Kind of crazy how Villanova and UConn are so prominent outside the 1-seeds. Of the 14 non-1-seed teams to win the title, Villanova and UConn account for 6 of those championships.
It is true the 5 seed is cursed!
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2025, 11:16:39 AMWhen it comes to winning a national championship, you can do it from a 2 or 3 seed, but the odds go way down. Here are the results by seed:
1-seed: 25 (64.1%) - Last was 2024 UConn
2-seed: 5 (12.8%) - Last was 2016 Villanova
3-seed: 4 (10.3%) - Last was 2011 UConn
4-seed: 2 (5.1%) - Last was 2023 UConn
5-seed: 0 (0.0%)
6-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1988 Kansas
7-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 2014 UConn
8-seed: 1 (2.6%) - Last was 1985 Villanova
Kind of crazy how Villanova and UConn are so prominent outside the 1-seeds. Of the 14 non-1-seed teams to win the title, Villanova and UConn account for 6 of those championships.
I love that 6/7 of the last champions are in the BEast
Since the birth of kenpom in 2002, all but two National Champions finished the season ranked in the top 20 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. The two outliers - UConn in 2014 and Baylor in 2021. Below is a list of National Champions by year and their corresponding kenpom ratings.
KENPOM RATINGS
Year Team O Rating D Rating
2002 Maryland 4 7
2003 Syracuse 17 14
2004 UConn 9 6
2005 North Carolina 2 5
2006 Florida 3 7
2007 Florida 1 13
2008 Kansas 2 1
2009 North Carolina 1 18
2010 Duke 1 5
2011 UConn 19 15
2012 Kentucky 2 7
2013 Louisville 7 1
2014 UConn 39 10
2015 Duke 3 11
2016 Villanova 3 5
2017 North Carolina 9 11
2018 Villanova 1 11
2019 Virginia 2 5
2020 N/A
2021 Baylor 2 22
2022 Kansas 6 17
2023 UConn 3 7
2024 UConn 1 4
If I read my kenpom table correctly - and I'm sure someone will say if I'm not - we are now 15 on offense and 16 on defense.
Big East Poll Ranking January 6, 2025
AP
7. MU
9. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies, Georgetown, X
Coaches
6.MU
10. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
Johnnies
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 5, 2025
New Old
11 11 Marquette
23 22 UConn
38 38 St. John's
50 50 Villanova
59 59 Creighton
61 62 Xavier
73 73 Georgetown
78 78 Butler
81 82 Providence
109 106 DePaul
200 198 Seton Hall
January 7 Team Sheets . MU is 11.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Marquette is tied yet with Auburn and Oregon for the most combined Quad 1 and 2 Wins in the Nation with 7.
Marquette has the 2nd most Quad 1 Wins in the Nation with 5.
Marquette is also 2nd in the Nation in WAB.
The NET Rankings have a new metric this season called WAB — Wins Above Bubble. It's used to evaluate how many more wins a team has compared to what an NCAA Tournament "bubble" team would be expected to have against the same schedule, using the NET Rankings as the basis for opponent strength.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 07, 2025, 03:58:12 PMMarquette is tied yet with Auburn and Oregon for the most combined Quad 1 and 2 Wins in the Nation with 7.
Marquette has the 2nd most Quad 1 Wins in the Nation with 5.
Marquette is also 2nd in the Nation in WAB.
The NET Rankings have a new metric this season called WAB — Wins Above Bubble. It's used to evaluate how many more wins a team has compared to what an NCAA Tournament "bubble" team would be expected to have against the same schedule, using the NET Rankings as the basis for opponent strength.
This is not true. Memphis has 10 combined Q1 and Q2 wins.
Marquette's NET is #13 Today But their WAB is #3
Cupcake basher Arizona's NET is #14 but their WAB is #40
Big East NET rankings as of games of January 7, 2025
New Old
13 11 Marquette
22 23 UConn
31 38 St. John's
49 50 Villanova
60 59 Creighton
64 61 Xavier
71 73 Georgetown
78 78 Butler
82 81 Providence
107 109 DePaul
200 200 Seton Hall
January 8 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Quote from: The Thing on January 05, 2025, 01:35:56 AMI have been throwing this stat out there too but it is wrong. Memphis has 9 combined Q1 and Q2 wins (6-0 Q2). Auburn and MU are tied for second with 7.
I stand corrected. Marquette and Auburn are tied for second with 7. I did not think of looking that high up in the NET rankings. That helps explain Memphis 7 in the WAB.
Update Memphis leads with 10 and Marquette and Auburn are tied for second with 8
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on January 08, 2025, 12:21:50 PMI stand corrected. Marquette and Auburn are tied for second with 7. I did not think of looking that high up in the NET rankings. That helps explain Memphis 7 in the WAB.
Memphis has a fascinating schedule. Only 2 Q3 games and 1 Q4 game so far. And the Q4 game is 1 spot from being a Q3. Can't say they didn't challenge themselves in the noncon
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 08, 2025, 12:57:50 PMMemphis has a fascinating schedule. Only 2 Q3 games and 1 Q4 game so far. And the Q4 game is 1 spot from being a Q3. Can't say they didn't challenge themselves in the noncon
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 08, 2025, 12:57:50 PMMemphis has a fascinating schedule. Only 2 Q3 games and 1 Q4 game so far. And the Q4 game is 1 spot from being a Q3. Can't say they didn't challenge themselves in the noncon
Yeah, I'm actually surprised they aren't ranked higher. I guess one Q3 loss can have a really big impact on your NET.
Quote from: The Thing on January 08, 2025, 01:34:22 PMYeah, I'm actually surprised they aren't ranked higher. I guess one Q3 loss can have a really big impact on your NET.
It's largely margins. Their three losses (including two at home) were all 13+ point blowouts, including Arkansas State. Their wins, on the other hand, are generally close. 7/12 wins were by single digits.
Their profile reminds me a lot of 2022 Providence. Great record, some really nice wins, but the lopsided losses hurt their metrics. They had the win profile of a 2-seed and the metric profile of a 9-seed. The Committee generally gave them a break by slotting them as a 4-seed. Wisconsin getting a 3-seed that same year with poor predictive averages is another indicator that Memphis will probably be seeded a little lower than their wins indicate, but higher than their KP average.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 08, 2025, 09:15:04 AMBig East NET rankings as of games of January 7, 2025
New Old
13 11 Marquette
22 23 UConn
31 38 St. John's
49 50 Villanova
60 59 Creighton
64 61 Xavier
71 73 Georgetown
78 78 Butler
82 81 Providence
107 109 DePaul
200 200 Seton Hall
January 8 Team Sheets. MU is 13
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net-teamsheets-plus
Herm, are you taking a sabbatical? I can't speak for the rest of scoop but I like the fact that you posted the NET rankings for the BEast teams every day. I guess I could look it up myself, but since I spend so much (too much?) time on Scoop, it was easier to just check your updates.
Quote from: romey on January 10, 2025, 10:23:11 AMHerm, are you taking a sabbatical? I can't speak for the rest of scoop but I like the fact that you posted the NET rankings for the BEast teams every day. I guess I could look it up myself, but since I spend so much (too much?) time on Scoop, it was easier to just check your updates.
Herman Cain died years ago. Covid.
Quote from: romey on January 10, 2025, 10:23:11 AMHerm, are you taking a sabbatical? I can't speak for the rest of scoop but I like the fact that you posted the NET rankings for the BEast teams every day. I guess I could look it up myself, but since I spend so much (too much?) time on Scoop, it was easier to just check your updates.
My guess is that Herman showed himself the door as a show of support for the permabanned guys. His name and a few others no longer appear on the member roster.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 10, 2025, 10:28:33 AMMy guess is that Herman showed himself the door as a show of support for the permabanned guys. His name and a few others no longer appear on the member roster.
damn, now I gotta do extra work.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 10, 2025, 10:28:33 AMMy guess is that Herman showed himself the door as a show of support for the permabanned guys. His name and a few others no longer appear on the member roster.
RIP The Cause
He is now posting his daily update on the scout board.
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2025, 11:17:23 AMHe is now posting his daily update on the scout board.
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Catches breath
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahshahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahwhahwhagaha
9-9-9?
Nein!
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2025, 11:17:23 AMHe is now posting his daily update on the scout board.
I tried to find it, but I came up empty handed. Link please. I need a laugh.
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/contents/202425-big-east-poll-net-rankings-and-team-sheets-243849748/#M243867044
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 10, 2025, 01:26:59 PMhttps://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/contents/202425-big-east-poll-net-rankings-and-team-sheets-243849748/#M243867044
Thanks.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 10, 2025, 10:28:33 AMMy guess is that Herman showed himself the door as a show of support for the permabanned guys. His name and a few others no longer appear on the member roster.
Who got banned and why?
Fare thee well, part II thread.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 10, 2025, 10:28:33 AMMy guess is that Herman showed himself the door as a show of support for the permabanned guys. His name and a few others no longer appear on the member roster.
Who got banned, and why?
See the post above.
RIP Herm. My favorite moment was when he posted that interesting and insightful NYpost article.
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 11, 2025, 12:40:08 PMRIP Herm. My favorite moment was when he posted that interesting and insightful NYpost article.
Now, we'll never get the real story of the Quentin Grimes recruitment. Just more time for him and Jamie Dimon to have lunch
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 11, 2025, 01:03:33 PMNow, we'll never get the real story of the Quentin Grimes recruitment. Just more time for him and Jamie Dimon to have lunch
Everyone please say a prayer and take these online coupons for breathtakingly mediocre pizza.
https://shop.godfathers.com/coupons/
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 11, 2025, 02:58:49 PMEveryone please say a prayer and take these online coupons for breathtakingly mediocre pizza.
https://shop.godfathers.com/coupons/
Arby's
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 11, 2025, 02:59:24 PMArby's
Whatever way you want to give yourself diarrhea is fine with me as long as you make sure to pray first
Quote from: Shaka Shart on January 11, 2025, 12:40:08 PMRIP Herm. My favorite moment was when he posted that interesting and insightful NYpost article.
And the insightful Russia Today links.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 12, 2025, 08:52:47 AMAnd the insightful Russia Today links.
He's part of the snowflake contingent.
Quote from: tower912 on January 10, 2025, 11:17:23 AMHe is now posting his daily update on the scout board.
I've always claimed multiple message boards is good for the MU community. Dodds disagrees with me, but glad everyone has options.
Edit: oh, and in case anyone doesn't know what I'm taking about, here's the link... Something I doubt would ever be reciprocated:
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/mens-hoops-104085/
Gotta love Dodds. Last post is a link for a 2006 article on the St Louis Spirits that is no longer relevant.
That is highly symbolic of that board.
To be fair, we do have Herman Cain still posting here.
I realize Herm has passed on, but he used to post a link to the NET team sheets that broke down every team's schedule, what the tiers were for each quad, etc. etc. By chance while his estate was being settled, di anyone come across that link or perhaps know how to access it? ;)
Quote from: romey on January 13, 2025, 12:24:58 PMI realize Herm has passed on, but he used to post a link to the NET team sheets that broke down every team's schedule, what the tiers were for each quad, etc. etc. By chance while his estate was being settled, di anyone come across that link or perhaps know how to access it? ;)
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net
I know I should not get worked up over this and it will probably take care of itself over time, but can someone explain to me like I'm a 4th grader why teams like Illinois and Michigan continue to have a better NET ranking than Marquette?
Marquette has more Q1 and Q2 wins and seemingly a better resume overall. I am just not understanding what I'm missing.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 12, 2025, 02:46:18 PMI've always claimed multiple message boards is good for the MU community. Dodds disagrees with me, but glad everyone has options.
Edit: oh, and in case anyone doesn't know what I'm taking about, here's the link... Something I doubt would ever be reciprocated:
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/mens-hoops-104085/
Dodds also believes you shouldn't post MU video highlights on MU message boards and threatens legal action unless you do it on his site which is ok because he will get permission from Dennis Krause.
Quote from: The Thing on January 13, 2025, 12:47:12 PMI know I should not get worked up over this and it will probably take care of itself over time, but can someone explain to me like I'm a 4th grader why teams like Illinois and Michigan continue to have a better NET ranking than Marquette?
Marquette has more Q1 and Q2 wins and seemingly a better resume overall. I am just not understanding what I'm missing.
Efficiency. Illinois has an average margin of victory of 42 in their Q4 games. MU's average is 29. Illinois' best win is a 32 point Q1A road win. MU's is an 18 point Q1A home win. As more data is included in the formula's, each individual data point becomes a smaller margin. Unless they continue to have Q1 wins with huge margins, the gap will close/not exist.
Also, continue to keep in mind that NET is just a piece of the puzzle. Bracketmatrix has MU as the 2nd 2 seed and Illinois as the top 3. Michigan is down at a 5.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 13, 2025, 12:58:22 PMDodds also believes you shouldn't post MU video highlights on MU message boards and threatens legal action unless you do it on his site which is ok because he will get permission from Dennis Krause.
Whoa? You mean embed from youtube, which has an "embed" option when sharing videos? Suck it!
(figures, now I'm having trouble embedding...)
(edit: oh! it's got a "bad" word as part of the url, lol)
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 13, 2025, 12:58:22 PMDodds also believes you shouldn't post MU video highlights on MU message boards and threatens legal action unless you do it on his site which is ok because he will get permission from Dennis Krause.
For more on this here's dodds defense
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=4887
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 13, 2025, 01:19:16 PMFor more on this here's dodds defense
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=4887
Hah,the internet has changed a lot in the past 13 years.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 13, 2025, 01:10:06 PMWhoa? You mean embed from youtube, which has an "embed" option when sharing videos? Suck it!
This was in the very early years of scoop (2007-2008ish) before video highlights were everywhere.
I had a box that allowed me to record games off of cable on my computer. After the game I would chop up highlights and post them to scoop.
Post Examples (video links went dead long ago):
- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=10907.msg96202#msg96202
- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=10582.msg93131#msg93131
- https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=10481.msg92234#msg92234
I forget the exact jist of it but it was something along the lines of I was going to get sued for posting those clips on Scoop but if I posted them to his site he could work with Dennis Krause so it would be allowed.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 13, 2025, 01:38:02 PMHah,the internet has changed a lot in the past 13 years.
Yeah there's a like button and notifications now!
Didn't Dennis Krause exit the business and run for the state assembly or something like that?
Quote from: The Thing on January 13, 2025, 12:47:12 PMI know I should not get worked up over this and it will probably take care of itself over time, but can someone explain to me like I'm a 4th grader why teams like Illinois and Michigan continue to have a better NET ranking than Marquette?
Marquette has more Q1 and Q2 wins and seemingly a better resume overall. I am just not understanding what I'm missing.
The special sauce.
Quote from: The Sultan on January 13, 2025, 01:44:51 PMDidn't Dennis Krause exit the business and run for the state assembly or something like that?
Jim Ott was a meteorologist at Ch. 4, spent 14 years in the state assemnbly.
Dennis is still working with Spectrum News in Milwaukee.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 13, 2025, 01:50:00 PMJim Ott was a meteorologist at Ch. 4, spent 14 years in the state assemnbly.
Dennis is still working with Spectrum News in Milwaukee.
Ah. That's right...
Thank you, Terrapins, for continuing to hold up your end.
Our friends from Georgia have some challenges this week.
Marquette's NET Ranking was #13 yesterday.
Surprised it didn't take a bigger dive after GB's loss
Marquette's NET Ranking is #18 Today
NIT here we come
Marquette's NET is #17 today
How is our NIT?
Marquette's NET is #15 Today
Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2025, 01:00:08 PMWhat's their NIT?
Worse unfortunately, NET & NIT hate MU
Quote from: Newsdreams on January 25, 2025, 01:35:28 PMWorse unfortunately, NET & NIT hate MU
Remember when Al stuck it to the NCAA and went to the NIT? Wish Shaka had balls like that
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 25, 2025, 02:03:20 PMRemember when Al stuck it to the NCAA and went to the NIT? Wish Shaka had balls like that
Shaka is woke
Marquette's NET Ranking is #14 Today
https://x.com/GrahamDoeren/status/1884053133720248663?t=eMjlPqE2ij1sTVJ-mPgrtg&s=19
Marquette's WAB or Wins Above Bubble Ranking is #9 after games completed as of January 27th
Marquette's WAB Ranking Is #7 Today.
Marquette is also Ranked #7 in Jeff Borzello's ESPN's Power Rankings Today.
7. Marquette Golden Eagles (18-3)
Previous ranking: 10A
Marquette's quest for a Big East regular-season title --what would be its second in three seasons -- will be heavily influenced by the next three games: vs. UConn on Saturday, followed by road trips to St. John's and Creighton next week.
The continued reemergence of Stevie Mitchell as a scorer would be a huge boost to the Golden Eagles' hopes. In Mitchell's past two games - - both wins over Villanova and Butler -- he has totaled 43 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals while making three 35.
He was a catalyst for Marquette's comeback against
Butler, scoring 14 points in the second half.
Next seven days: vs. UConn (Feb. 1), at St. John's (Feb. 4)
Today Marquette's NET Ranking is #18
Marquette has fallen behind Iowa State and the 3 Big Ten opponents they've faced, in both KenPom and the NET.
Excited to see if we play like that hungry team tomorrow.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 03, 2025, 11:32:19 AMMarquette has fallen behind Iowa State and the 3 Big Ten opponents they've faced, in both KenPom and the NET.
Excited to see if we play like that hungry team tomorrow.
Always knew they were better than us. Especially Wisconsin 🎉🥳
Phew. Order restored. We can go back to the standard inferiority complex.
All the way down to 11 in the Coach's poll. Someone should alert the coaches that we stink. Somehow still ahead of Wisconsin despite them passing us in the NET and KenPom.
Marquette's NET ranking stays at #18 Today
Saw 3 brackets this morning and all 3 had us as a 4 seed. Need a win tomorrow because that 5/12 matchup just brings back horrible memories.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 07, 2025, 10:54:51 AMSaw 3 brackets this morning and all 3 had us as a 4 seed. Need a win tomorrow because that 5/12 matchup just brings back horrible memories.
#worried
ESPN Bubble Watch
Big East
Locks
Marquette Golden Eagles (97%), UConn Huskies (97%)
Should be in
ST St. John's Red Storm (89%)
The Red Storm ought to be quite safe to make the tourney, with a top-15 SOR, particularly after beating Marquette on Tuesday. Despite the recent loss of forward Brady Dunlap to an abdominal injury, they just keep winning Big East games (11-1). (Updated
Feb. 4 at 9:05 p.m.)
Next game: Friday at UConn, 8 p.m. (Fox)
Creighton Blue Jays (88%)
Oh, St. John's and UConn is on big boy Fox tonight?
I wasn't aware -- FS1 might want to start advertising that.
Quote from: barfolomew on February 07, 2025, 11:43:58 AMOh, St. John's and UConn is on big boy Fox tonight?
I wasn't aware -- FS1 might want to start advertising that.
FS1 marketing dept. suxs
https://x.com/GrahamDoeren/status/1888591485794193599?t=n5i0VApqHxPF4rualcaU9Q&s=19
You can't start trending back up in the right direction without first trending down!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 09, 2025, 10:37:04 AMhttps://x.com/GrahamDoeren/status/1888591485794193599?t=n5i0VApqHxPF4rualcaU9Q&s=19
You can't start trending back up in the right direction without first trending down!
Good, another shot at UConn
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2025, 10:41:55 AMAnd Michigan State.
That's a problem. Shaka can't beat Big Ten teams
https://x.com/haslametrics/status/1888616032299880935?t=rNxZwqW7yezWtmCkEjyEbA&s=19
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 09, 2025, 10:37:04 AMhttps://x.com/GrahamDoeren/status/1888591485794193599?t=n5i0VApqHxPF4rualcaU9Q&s=19
You can't start trending back up in the right direction without first trending down!
🎉🥳
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2025, 10:41:55 AMAnd Michigan State.
And George Mason. (I thought first-round rematches against teams you play in the regular season was verboten, but whatevs.)
While I really want MU to get a protected seed and play in an arena lots of our fans can get to relatively easy ... if we do happen to be a 5-seed or worse, I'd accept MU playing in Seattle as a consolation prize.
Wisconsin and Purdue with higher seeds than MU. How far will we fall?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 09, 2025, 06:09:05 PMWisconsin and Purdue with higher seeds than MU. How far will we fall?
To play in game
Ah. We found the reason Shaka scheduled the Dayton game.
Quote from: The Sultan on February 09, 2025, 06:30:23 PMAh. We found the reason Shaka scheduled the Dayton game.
Chess, not checkers.
Four Big East Teams in the Top 25 in the USA Today Coaches Poll
Marquette is at #11 in Gary Parish's CBS Top 25 and 1 Poll
18 in AP Poll according to Ben Steele on X
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on February 10, 2025, 12:06:15 PM18 in AP Poll according to Ben Steele on X
Wow. Can't believe the voters got this as wrong as they did.
Quote from: MU82 on February 09, 2025, 02:41:29 PMAnd George Mason. (I thought first-round rematches against teams you play in the regular season was verboten, but whatevs.)
While I really want MU to get a protected seed and play in an arena lots of our fans can get to relatively easy ... if we do happen to be a 5-seed or worse, I'd accept MU playing in Seattle as a consolation prize.
A MU buddy said he thought we could not be scheduled for the March 21-23 games because we host at Fiserv on those days. Is that a thing? It was something I had not heard of.
If so, that leaves Denver, Providence, Lexington and Wichita as locations we can be placed. Since I already have tickets for Denver I am not opposed to us being sent out there.
.
Pleasantly surprised to see us at #18. But I'm even more surprised to see UConn become unranked after handily beating #11 on the road and losing a relatively close game to #12 St John's. You'd think they'd stay more or less in the same place.
Regardless I'm glad to see it. It hardly matters but their 53-week streak of consecutive ranked appearances is over, which means we just moved up to fifth place in that ladder.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 10, 2025, 12:39:22 PMA MU buddy said he thought we could not be scheduled for the March 21-23 games because we host at Fiserv on those days. Is that a thing? It was something I had not heard of.
If so, that leaves Denver, Providence, Lexington and Wichita as locations we can be placed. Since I already have tickets for Denver I am not opposed to us being sent out there.
I don't know.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 10, 2025, 12:39:22 PMA MU buddy said he thought we could not be scheduled for the March 21-23 games because we host at Fiserv on those days. Is that a thing? It was something I had not heard of.
If so, that leaves Denver, Providence, Lexington and Wichita as locations we can be placed. Since I already have tickets for Denver I am not opposed to us being sent out there.
We definitely can't play at fiserv but l can't speak to the specific scheduling and dates. Will take your word for it.
If you have Denver Tix and we end up there, how fortunate can you get!
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on February 10, 2025, 12:59:58 PMWe definitely can't play at fiserv but l can't speak to the specific scheduling and dates. Will take your word for it.
If you have Denver Tix and we end up there, how fortunate can you get!
Don't take my "word" for it as I have no idea if that's legit.
I got lucky with Indy last year so maybe it happens again! I was going to try for Lexington but one of my best friends who lives in Denver offered up his spare room and a day of skiing in exchange for tickets. Sold!
https://x.com/GrahamDoeren/status/1888925336391282959?t=Y7TLmAILooBiXFQFJSq15A&s=19
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 10, 2025, 01:17:32 PMDon't take my "word" for it as I have no idea if that's legit.
I got lucky with Indy last year so maybe it happens again! I was going to try for Lexington but one of my best friends who lives in Denver offered up his spare room and a day of skiing in exchange for tickets. Sold!
Host teams can, and often do, play on the same day as the games they host.
I think that all else being reasonably equal, they might try to have them play on a different day, but there are so many other things that go into placing teams in the bracket that get higher priority.
The NCAA's procedures for building the bracket specifically say that a host team may play on the day it is hosting. I remember being in Louisville in 2012 and a lot of people were in the concourse watching on TV as Louisville was playing.
NM
We're gonna be stuck in that 5/12 matchup.
Michigan and Kentucky already ahead of us each picked up wins against Purdue and Tennessee tonight.
Oh well!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 11, 2025, 08:10:56 PMWe're gonna be stuck in that 5/12 matchup.
Michigan and Kentucky already ahead of us each picked up wins against Purdue and Tennessee tonight.
Oh well!
5 might be generous
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 11, 2025, 08:10:56 PMWe're gonna be stuck in that 5/12 matchup.
Michigan and Kentucky already ahead of us each picked up wins against Purdue and Tennessee tonight.
Oh well!
Worried.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2025, 08:43:46 PMWorried.
2028 is a concern, but should be championship year.
Marquette's NET Ranking is #23 Today
Marquette's WAB Ranking is #14 Today
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on February 13, 2025, 11:14:44 AMMarquette's NET Ranking is #23 Today
Marquette's WAB Ranking is #14 Today
Hoping for a nice 30 point win on Tuesday to boost the metrics, but then Friday at Nova is probably the most winnable Q1 game left on the schedule.
@ Nova
@ UConn
St. John's
are the 3 opportunities left.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 11:38:21 AMHoping for a nice 30 point win on Tuesday to boost the metrics, but then Friday at Nova is probably the most winnable Q1 game left on the schedule.
@ Nova
@ UConn
St. John's
are the 3 opportunities left.
You stone cold locked in SJU as a win, so I'd say that has to be the most winnable Q1 game left on the schedule.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 11:38:21 AMHoping for a nice 30 point win on Tuesday to boost the metrics, but then Friday at Nova is probably the most winnable Q1 game left on the schedule.
@ Nova
@ UConn
St. John's
are the 3 opportunities left.
Why not win them all?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2025, 11:46:20 AMYou stone cold locked in SJU as a win, so I'd say that has to be the most winnable Q1 game left on the schedule.
Oh that's
right! He did. ;D
Love your enthusiasm GE03, but I really do not understand your habit of guaranteeing a win.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 13, 2025, 12:45:18 PMOh that's right! He did. ;D
Love your enthusiasm GE03, but I really do not understand your habit of guaranteeing a win.
I typically don't guarantee anything. I may say that I don't like a matchup, or really like a matchup, but that's about it.
This though, you are correct, this is a scenario where I guaranteed a win against St. John's. I don't see us losing that one.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2025, 08:43:46 PMWorried.
What? What the hell happened to that 2 seed many were do corkscrew about?
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 12:56:31 PMI typically don't guarantee anything. I may say that I don't like a matchup, or really like a matchup, but that's about it.
This though, you are correct, this is a scenario where I guaranteed a win against St. John's. I don't see us losing that one.
Gotcha. Keep up the enthusiasm. I get crabby sometimes, and your (and others) counterbalancing that often makes me look at things from another angle.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 13, 2025, 01:05:07 PMGotcha. Keep up the enthusiasm. I get crabby sometimes, and your (and others) counterbalancing that often makes me look at things from another angle.
No worries.
I've gotten plenty of hate on here for predictions back when we used to have the predictions contest, but usually for people thinking I was too low on MU ..so it's a nice to be seen as the positive guy lol.
Marquette is good, regardless of any outside noise, and they are at home for that one on Senior Day with one of the winningest classes we've seen. I like our odds immensely. Obviously enough to guarantee victory!
Quote from: willie warrior on February 13, 2025, 01:01:22 PMWhat? What the hell happened to that 2 seed many were do corkscrew about?
Speaking of what
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 13, 2025, 12:45:18 PMOh that's right! He did. ;D
Love your enthusiasm GE03, but I really do not understand your habit of guaranteeing a win.
He won't guarantee wins against Radford, Georgia Tech or Madison, but he's sure liked us in every Big East game this season, which is cool. I've picked us to win all of 'em, too, but I'm a hopeless optimist.
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2025, 02:32:06 PMHe won't guarantee wins against Radford, Georgia Tech or Madison, but he's sure liked us in every Big East game this season, which is cool. I've picked us to win all of 'em, too, but I'm a hopeless optimist.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on September 09, 2022, 11:37:47 PMRadford - W
Central Michigan - W
@Purdue - L
LIU - W
vs. Mississippi St. - L
vs. Georgia Tech/Utah - W
Chicago St.- W
Baylor - L
Wisconsin - W
North Carolina Central - W
@Notre Dame - L
Creighton - W
@Providence - L
Seton Hall - W
@Villanova - L
@St. John's - W
Georgetown - W
UConn - W
@Xavier - L
Providence - W
@Seton Hall - L
@DePaul - L
Villanova - L
Butler - W
@UConn - L
@Georgetown - L
Xavier - L
@Creighton - L
DePaul - W
@Butler - L
St. John's - W
Overall: 16- 15 (18-16 counting BET)
Big East Record: 9-11
Big East Tournament Seed: 8
Big East Tournament Result: Loss in the Semis
Postseason Tournament and Seed: NIT 4
Postseason Result: Loss in 2nd game of NIT
Quote from: wadesworld on September 09, 2022, 02:05:55 PMRadford - W
Central Michigan - W
@Purdue - L
LIU - W
vs. Mississippi St. - L
vs. Georgia Tech/Utah - W
Chicago St. - W
Baylor - L
Wisconsin - W
North Carolina Central - W
@Notre Dame - L
Creighton - L
@Providence - L
Seton Hall - W
@Villanova - L
@St. John's - L
Georgetown - W
UConn - L
@Xavier - L
Providence - W
@Seton Hall -L
@DePaul - W
Villanova - L
Butler - W
@UConn - L
@Georgetown - W
Xavier - L
@Creighton - L
DePaul - W
@Butler - L
St. John's - W
Overall: 15-16
Big East Record: 8-12
Big East Tournament Seed: 8
Big East Tournament Result: Quarterfinal Loss
Postseason Tournament and Seed: None
Postseason Result: None
Nope. I predicted them to beat Radford and UW. Just knew the games would be closer than most thought because 1st games are always tricky. I thought they'd overwhelm UW, was just wrong. Wades had them finishing below .500 so I predicted closer than my harshest critic.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 03:09:25 PMNope. I predicted them to beat Radford and UW. Just knew the games would be closer than most thought because 1st games are always tricky. I thought they'd overwhelm UW, was just wrong. Wades had them finishing below .500 so I predicted closer than my harshest critic.
Interesting to pull me in here, but yup. I did not believe in Shaka's year 2 roster going into the season. It's why I've continually said since then that until Shaka's team gives me a reason to doubt them or Shaka gives me a reason to doubt him, I'll just go with the GE outlook on Greg Gard...he always gets it done!
Why you get flack here, not just from me, is because you twist yourself into pretzels and react irrationally to any run in any game. You claimed UCONN would run the table if they played like they were...in a game they lost! And the very game AFTER you claimed they would run the table if they played like that (again, in a loss), you were talking about how they were about to get run out of Omaha...in a game they won! And then, instead of just saying, "Yup, got ahead of myself there and forgot I'm watching college athletes that aren't consistent and play well for spurts and poorly for others," you deflect by randomly pulling in someone else or play the victim card and claim you didn't say something you did or make some absurd twisted logic to justify something like, "Wisconsin was one of the three best teams in the B1G last year. Forget they finished fifth, Purdue won the league and Wisconsin and Illinois made the B1G Tourney finals! Gard always gets it done!" Yeah, I'll call things like that out.
I'll also call out RED cheerleaders like you any day.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2025, 03:29:40 PMInteresting to pull me in here, but yup. I did not believe in Shaka's year 2 roster going into the season. It's why I've continually said since then that until Shaka's team gives me a reason to doubt them or Shaka gives me a reason to doubt him, I'll just go with the GE outlook on Greg Gard...he always gets it done!
Why you get flack here, not just from me, is because you twist yourself into pretzels and react irrationally to any run in any game. You claimed UCONN would run the table if they played like they were...in a game they lost! And the very game AFTER you claimed they would run the table if they played like that (again, in a loss), you were talking about how they were about to get run out of Omaha...in a game they won! And then, instead of just saying, "Yup, got ahead of myself there and forgot I'm watching college athletes that aren't consistent and play well for spurts and poorly for others," you deflect by randomly pulling in someone else or play the victim card and claim you didn't say something you did or make some absurd twisted logic to justify something like, "Wisconsin was one of the three best teams in the B1G last year. Forget they finished fifth, Purdue won the league and Wisconsin and Illinois made the B1G Tourney finals! Gard always gets it done!" Yeah, I'll call things like that out.
I'll also call out RED cheerleaders like you any day.
None of those things are wrong. If UConn had continued to play like they were, they had the potential to win the league. Saying a team is on the verge of getting run out of the gym isn't a prediction. It's an observation. They WERE on the verge of getting run out of the gym, they just responded. Creighton is a win on Sunday away from being in the 1 seed spot in the league...and again, you bring up UW more than anyone on this site.
I bring you into this because you nitpick any little detail you possibly can, even adding your own false narratives to what other people say. So thought I'd give you a taste of your own medicine.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 03:51:42 PMNone of those things are wrong. If UConn had continued to play like they were, they had the potential to win the league. Saying a team is on the verge of getting run out of the gym isn't a prediction. It's an observation. They WERE on the verge of getting run out of the gym, they just responded. Creighton is a win on Sunday away from being in the 1 seed spot in the league...and again, you bring up UW more than anyone on this site.
I bring you into this because you nitpick any little detail you possibly can, even adding your own false narratives to what other people say. So thought I'd give you a taste of your own medicine.
Lol if this is "giving me a taste of my own medicine, then here's a taste of yours.
WHAT?! That was NOT what I was saying! You're just twisting words and creating false narratives! Here's what I ACTUALLY said!
Quote from: wadesworld on September 09, 2022, 02:05:55 PMRadford - W
Central Michigan - W
@Purdue - L
LIU - W
vs. Mississippi St. - L
vs. Georgia Tech/Utah - W
Chicago St. - W
Baylor - W
Wisconsin - L
North Carolina Central - W
@Notre Dame - W
Creighton - W
@Providence - L
Seton Hall - W
@Villanova - W
@St. John's - W
Georgetown - W
UConn - W
@Xavier - L
Providence - W
@Seton Hall -W
@DePaul - W
Villanova - W
Butler - W
@UConn - L
@Georgetown - W
Xavier - W
@Creighton - W
DePaul - W
@Butler - W
St. John's - W
Overall: 25-6
Big East Record: 17-3
Big East Tournament Seed: 1
Big East Tournament Result: Champions
Postseason Tournament and Seed: 2
Postseason Result: 2nd round loss
Wish we'd play up to our seed at least. Oh well! It is what it is! Win anyway next year!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 03:09:25 PMNope. I predicted them to beat Radford and UW. Just knew the games would be closer than most thought because 1st games are always tricky. I thought they'd overwhelm UW, was just wrong. Wades had them finishing below .500 so I predicted closer than my harshest critic.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 03:09:25 PMNope. I predicted them to beat Radford and UW. Just knew the games would be closer than most thought because 1st games are always tricky. I thought they'd overwhelm UW, was just wrong. Wades had them finishing below .500 so I predicted closer than my harshest critic.
IIRC, you predicted we'd lose to Madison THIS season, which is what I was referencing. Also IIRC, you predicted we'd get clobbered by Baylor in the year you referenced above.
Not to mention your constant Madison pandering.
And while wades had absolutely nothing to do with my comment, I agree with him that it's not just the predictions. We ALL get lots of predictions wrong. It's just the way you frame them and then defend them.
For example, saying Madison would be top 2 in the B18G wasn't outrageous in and of itself, but saying they'd be top 2 EASILY was just silly, because it obviously wouldn't happen easily if it were to happen at all. Your comment invited mocking, which led you to double and triple and quadruple down on it.
Not to mention your repeated proclamations (and doubling, tripling and quadrupling down) that Gard always gets it done. It's a dopey claim that is refuted by a simple look at his history at the school you
claim to dislike.
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2025, 04:01:04 PMIIRC, you predicted we'd lose to Madison THIS season, which is what I was referencing. Also IIRC, you predicted we'd get clobbered by Baylor in the year you referenced above.
Not to mention your constant Madison pandering.
And while wades had absolutely nothing to do with my comment, I agree with him that it's not just the predictions. We ALL get lots of predictions wrong. It's just the way you frame them and then defend them.
For example, saying Madison would be top 2 in the B18G wasn't outrageous in and of itself, but saying they'd be top 2 EASILY was just silly, because it obviously wouldn't happen easily if it were to happen at all. Your comment invited mocking, which led you to double and triple and quadruple down on it.
Not to mention your repeated proclamations (and doubling, tripling and quadrupling down) that Gard always gets it done. It's a dopey claim that is refuted by a simple look at his history at the school you claim to dislike.
I think I have mentioned Greg Gard maybe one time on this site.
You've mentioned Madison always getting it done MANY times. I guess I assumed you were talking about these last 10 seasons with Gard as coach.
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2025, 09:46:57 PMYou've mentioned Madison always getting it done MANY times. I guess I assumed you were talking about these last 10 seasons with Gard as coach.
Gard always gets it done
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2025, 09:46:57 PMYou've mentioned Madison always getting it done MANY times. I guess I assumed you were talking about these last 10 seasons with Gard as coach.
No I haven't. Other people just mocked me for saying it one time lol
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 13, 2025, 10:06:22 PMNo I haven't. Other people just mocked me for saying it one time lol
They always get it done ... pretty easily.
According to the Bilas Index on ESPN Today Marquette is ranked #16
16. Marquette Golden Eagles
Losing three straight against UConn, St. John's and Creighton, two of those on the road, made the Golden Eagles look vulnerable. But this is the same Final Four threat of a team. Marquette forces turnovers, takes care of the ball on offense, but has not been shooting consistently. Because of size, this team can be vulnerable on the glass. Kam Jones continues to play at an All-America level, though, averaging 19 points and 6 assists.
Marquette's NET Is #21 and Our WAB is #20
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 02, 2025, 10:19:25 AMMarquette's NET Is #21 and Our WAB is #20
Crown material, Vegas it is