If we win the Hawaii tournament - wait, let me rephrase that - after we win the Hawaii tournament, Marquette will be the #1-ranked team in the nation.
I know that won't really "mean" anything because polls don't matter ...
But sorry, it would be effen cool!!
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 09:38:18 AM
If we win the Hawaii tournament - wait, let me rephrase that - after we win the Hawaii tournament, Marquette will be the #1-ranked team in the nation.
I know that won't really "mean" anything because polls don't matter ...
But sorry, it would be effen cool!!
We Are Marquette!
It means something to me, damn it! And, it would be effen cool.
Would be incredible and then we can stop saying it's the first time since 1978 next year and the year after that and so on.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 15, 2023, 10:16:04 AM
Would be incredible and then we can stop saying it's the first time since 1978 next year and the year after that and so on.
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
From a fan perspective, hearing Jakubowski saying MU is #1 in the intros would be cool, I do not think Shaka would appreciate that or allow it.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
Yeah I agree. Seeing anything above 8 was surreal for me last year and still is. Seeing number 1 next to Marquette would be absolutely incredible. I also think you get into court rushing territory from other teams and this is a team I think would respond with a vengeance and then some to that happening.
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 15, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
We are so much deeper than KU.
Field of 68 talked about it last night. Kansas bench was literally unplayable type of production last night. When those guys came in it was a disaster.
Dickson would be a total load for us and get his. Harris is a problem. McCullers and Adams are really good role guys who can do a lot.
But beyond those 4 they dont have the options we have and they cant shoot. There is definitely a path to beat them.
Of course there is a path where Dickenson goes for a 20/20 and it opens up shots that they finally hit and we get waxed.
But I think on a 1-8 roster talent we are better and I think its tough to even debate that.
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 15, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
Kansas is supposed to be great. They won't go 40-0 this season, though. They'll lose a few games. One of them might as well be to Marquette - two, counting the 2024 Final Four matchup!
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 15, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
Not saying it would be easy, but KU beat UK by 5 with Wagner and Reaves shooting 8 for 37
Galway
I am too lazy to look but I think they have been ranked top ten for 8+ straight weeks dating back to last year. Get used to it!!!
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 09:38:18 AM
If we win the Hawaii tournament - wait, let me rephrase that - after we win the Hawaii tournament, Marquette will be the #1-ranked team in the nation.
I know that won't really "mean" anything because polls don't matter ...
But sorry, it would be effen cool!!
We Are Marquette!
I actually like their chances against Kansas. UCLA might cause some problems though. Bona is going to feast on the glass. I think we should be fine, but they will cause some problems in Game 1. Can't wait to be up until 1AM to see the finish of that one!
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 15, 2023, 10:46:41 AM
I actually like their chances against Kansas. UCLA might cause some problems though. Bona is going to feast on the glass. I think we should be fine, but they will cause some problems in Game 1. Can't wait to be up until 1AM to see the finish of that one!
If Bona "is going to feast on the glass", what will the Kansas dude who went for 27 points and 21 rebounds against Kentucky last night going to do on the glass?
Quote from: wadesworld on November 15, 2023, 10:49:22 AM
If Bona "is going to feast on the glass", what will the Kansas dude who went for 27 points and 21 rebounds against Kentucky last night going to do on the glass?
I think Oso does better against Dickinson-types than Bona-types. Bona is a bowling ball with athleticism. Oso can at least out jump Dickinson or be the quickest to the ball against him.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 15, 2023, 10:51:24 AM
I think Oso does better against Dickinson-types than Bona-types. Bona is a bowling ball with athleticism. Oso can at least out jump Dickinson or be the quickest to the ball against him.
Agree. Dickinson struggled with Hawkins in the Illini scrimmage. Sadly, Oso doesn't really have a "keep em honest 3" like Ben does. Will be interesting to see how Shaka manages lineups.
Kentucky was without their primary bigs and airballed a ton of 3s. That is usually a good recipe for getting rebounds. But man, did they get some WIDE OPEN threes against Kansas. If our guys are feeling it from 3, it could be a lot of fun.
Hope we beat UCLA so we can see this for real!
Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 15, 2023, 10:30:59 AM
Yeah I agree. Seeing anything above 8 was surreal for me last year and still is. Seeing number 1 next to Marquette would be absolutely incredible. I also think you get into court rushing territory from other teams and this is a team I think would respond with a vengeance and then some to that happening.
Yeah, I think we should hang a banner if we win Hawaii and get to number 1
Quote from: The Thing on November 15, 2023, 11:00:10 AM
Yeah, I think we should hang a banner if we win Hawaii and get to number 1
*Beat Kansas
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 15, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
Well, seeing how Kentucky didn't have a player over 6'7" and they lost by 5 in an 83 possession game.
I think Kansas is stoppable.
Also anything after the UCLA game would be gravy. Beat UCLA and give yourself 2 chances to secure a top 10 win.
Quote from: jfp61 on November 15, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
Well, seeing how Kentucky didn't have a player over 6'7" and they lost by 5 in an 83 possession game.
I think Kansas is stoppable.
Also anything after the UCLA game would be gravy. Beat UCLA and give yourself 2 chances to secure a top 10 win.
I agree with this analysis
Let's do this.
I'm not sure why, but I HATE having UCLA in that first game, so much so that I don't even care about Kansas. Getting to even face them would be a celebration in my eyes, because it would be one of the best matchups of the season in NCAAb.
I think it's because Mick Cronin and how effective his teams are defensively and how slow he typically plays.
I haven't looked into their start this season yet, but Brews point that it might taken them time to gel and the fact that Marquette is about as gelled as it gets makes me feel much better.
Really looking forward to my Muggsy style 8pm pour over followed by a 10PM old fashioned on Monday. Took Tuesday- Turkey Day off because of this, really wish I was making the trip, but my couch will have to do.
Enjoy the ride, don't only worry about the destination.
Its really hard to judge how good any of these teams are until there are more data points. Duke lost to Arizona at home and then beat a Michigan St team that lost to James Madison at home. Does that mean Dukes win is huge because they beat a blue blood.
For all we know Kansas beat a Kentucky team that will be a 7 seed come march. Every year the four teams participate in the champions classic thinking they are always top 15 teams because they start the year there. Look at UNC last year. Started 1 and didn't even make the tournament. Point being we don't know how good Kansas really is. It will be a game regardless but they aren't some juggernaut because they beat 17th ranked Kentucky
Quote from: The Thing on November 15, 2023, 11:00:10 AM
Yeah, I think we should hang a banner if we win Hawaii and get to number 1
Two banners: Maui Champs and #1.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on November 15, 2023, 11:52:30 AM
Its really hard to judge how good any of these teams are until there are more data points. Duke lost to Arizona at home and then beat a Michigan St team that lost to James Madison at home. Does that mean Dukes win is huge because they beat a blue blood.
For all we know Kansas beat a Kentucky team that will be a 7 seed come march. Every year the four teams participate in the champions classic thinking they are always top 15 teams because they start the year there. Look at UNC last year. Started 1 and didn't even make the tournament. Point being we don't know how good Kansas really is. It will be a game regardless but they aren't some juggernaut because they beat 17th ranked Kentucky
All we know is that we'll be ranked #1 if we win our next 3 games.
That's all the knowledge I need right now!
Quote from: DoctorV on November 15, 2023, 11:51:53 AM
Let's do this.
I'm not sure why, but I HATE having UCLA in that first game, so much so that I don't even care about Kansas. Getting to even face them would be a celebration in my eyes, because it would be one of the best matchups of the season in NCAAb.
I think it's because Mick Cronin and how effective his teams are defensively and how slow he typically plays.
I haven't looked into their start this season yet, but Brews point that it might taken them time to gel and the fact that Marquette is about as gelled as it gets makes me feel much better.
Really looking forward to my Muggsy style 8pm pour over followed by a 10PM old fashioned on Monday. Took Tuesday- Turkey Day off because of this, really wish I was making the trip, but my couch will have to do.
Enjoy the ride, don't only worry about the destination.
The boys played the game they wanted to play against UI save for missed bunnies and dunks. I'm confident they will do the same against UCLA.
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on November 15, 2023, 10:24:33 AM
not looking past UCLA. But KU seems like a nightmare match-up. Hunter Dickinson with 27 pts. 21 Rb, and 3 Steels while Mccullar had a freakin triple double against a really good Kentucky team. how do you stop them?
How do you stop them? Watch last night's game again. Pack the paint, defend the interior, make them shoot threes. They do plenty well but can't shoot. Dickinson will get numbers, but you can take advantage of him in pick and roll. Finally, they want to run, and I say let them. Turn up the tempo and see who wins the turnover battle. That will also force them into their depth, another place I feel we have an edge.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 15, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
How do you stop them? Watch last night's game again. Pack the paint, defend the interior, make them shoot threes. They do plenty well but can't shoot. Dickinson will get numbers, but you can take advantage of him in pick and roll. Finally, they want to run, and I say let them. Turn up the tempo and see who wins the turnover battle. That will also force them into their depth, another place I feel we have an edge.
Agree with all of this. It'll be a lot like the UConn plan, but without having to worry about Hawkins and Joey.
I think Jop and Kam would shine against Kansas. Let's beat UCLA so we can find out.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
Goose, man, that is fantastic.John Owen. I haven't thought about him in years. That voice had almost a magic echo throughout the old Arena. I wish I could remember what it was ( it was 40 years ago) but he had an almost trademark saying that he wove into the pre-game introductions that was really cool. John Owen had the same kind of personal appeal to me at the time as an Eddie Doucette. He was part of the show.
dribbler
Tonight's attendance, a sellout. He was part of the show.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
Owens was great, btw. Went to HS w/his son.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 12:24:03 PM
dribbler
Tonight's attendance, a sellout. He was part of the show.
1980's game vs Louisville at the MECCA. I think it was Rodney McCray that threw one down. Owens...with a 'for emphasis' pause...'THAT...was Rodney McCray'. Classic!
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 15, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
How do you stop them? Watch last night's game again. Pack the paint, defend the interior, make them shoot threes. They do plenty well but can't shoot. Dickinson will get numbers, but you can take advantage of him in pick and roll. Finally, they want to run, and I say let them. Turn up the tempo and see who wins the turnover battle. That will also force them into their depth, another place I feel we have an edge.
I say we beat Kansas if we can get to Kansas. Assuming Oso is healthy, I just don't see how Dickinson can guard him in the pick and roll with Kolek. Love that matchup for MU. We have the shooters too, they do not.
Viper
NM. Thought you said Owens went to high school with your son.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 15, 2023, 12:55:01 PM
I say we beat Kansas if we can get to Kansas. Assuming Oso is healthy, I just don't see how Dickinson can guard him in the pick and roll with Kolek. Love that matchup for MU. We have the shooters too, they do not.
Like with Purdue, they will just sag and have Dickinson disrupt the gaps. Oso needs to bring his purported shooting game.
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 09:38:18 AM
If we win the Hawaii tournament - wait, let me rephrase that - after we win the Hawaii tournament, Marquette will be the #1-ranked team in the nation.
I know that won't really "mean" anything because polls don't matter ...
But sorry, it would be effen cool!!
We Are Marquette!
It would actually mean a ton. Not because of the obvious #1 ranking we would achieve, but because it would us two thunderous/hammer wins. That will pay enormous dividends down the road when it comes to tourney seeding.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 15, 2023, 12:55:01 PM
I say we beat Kansas if we can get to Kansas. Assuming Oso is healthy, I just don't see how Dickinson can guard him in the pick and roll with Kolek. Love that matchup for MU. We have the shooters too, they do not.
Harris is really, really, good and can shoot. He's the guy we really need to eliminate if possible. :)
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 09:38:18 AM
If we win the Hawaii tournament - wait, let me rephrase that - after we win the Hawaii tournament, Marquette will be the #1-ranked team in the nation.
I know that won't really "mean" anything because polls don't matter ...
But sorry, it would be effen cool!!
We Are Marquette!
It would break an NCAA record for the longest gap between #1 rankings, so that's cool.
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 11:57:53 AM
All we know is that we'll be ranked #1 if we win our next 3 games.
That's all the knowledge I need right now!
The last time we could say that was April of 2013. Let's enjoy this.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 12:24:03 PM
dribbler
Tonight's attendance, a sellout. He was part of the show.
Yes. I used to have that attendance number file stamped on my brain, but it was a long time ago. 10,842 rings a bell.
11,052?
dribbler
I'm getting old and throwing out from memory, I think 10,972 and then they added some seats to make it 11,052. I am 99% sure that 4ever can confirm the numbers.
Quote from: tower912 on November 15, 2023, 03:01:16 PM
11,052?
After they added some seats near the end, yeah, that sounds pretty good, too.
Caveat: No need to check a UW-Milwaukee box score. They've never had a sellout ;)
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 15, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
How do you stop them? Watch last night's game again. Pack the paint, defend the interior, make them shoot threes. They do plenty well but can't shoot. Dickinson will get numbers, but you can take advantage of him in pick and roll. Finally, they want to run, and I say let them. Turn up the tempo and see who wins the turnover battle. That will also force them into their depth, another place I feel we have an edge.
I mean, they did have one guy go 5/6 from three. So maybe pack the paint but put someone in Harris' pocket all night.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 15, 2023, 12:55:01 PM
I say we beat Kansas if we can get to Kansas. Assuming Oso is healthy, I just don't see how Dickinson can guard him in the pick and roll with Kolek. Love that matchup for MU. We have the shooters too, they do not.
This GE03 is a lot more fun than the one who said we'd lose to Georgia Tech and get bludgeoned by Baylor.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 15, 2023, 07:30:49 PM
I mean, they did have one guy go 5/6 from three. So maybe pack the paint but put someone in Harris' pocket all night.
Harris is tough, if you play him tight, he has the speed and craftiness to beat you on the drive. Sag off to take away the drive and he can make threes. Double him and he'll find the open man. On the whole, I'd take my chances that he doesn't hit 83% from deep again.
Quote from: MU82 on November 15, 2023, 07:38:22 PM
This GE03 is a lot more fun than the one who said we'd lose to Georgia Tech and get bludgeoned by Baylor.
and this team is a lot more fun than the ones I was used to watching and being scarred by up until 2021.
Not worried about a Kansas game that may or may not happen. I'm worried about the UCLA game, which is going to be tough.
Quote from: rgoode57 on November 16, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
Not worried about a Kansas game that may or may not happen. I'm worried about the UCLA game, which is going to be tough.
This might shock you, but what fans "worry about" on basketball-fan websites doesn't affect actual outcomes of actual games.
Quote from: Goose on November 15, 2023, 10:25:07 AM
#1 ranking would mean a great deal to the program, the university, the fan base and to me. I have said for years the basketball program is the greatest marketing tool that MU has and being #1 in the country would be fantastic for MU as a whole. On selfish note, I want to hear them say "now the starting lineups for the #1 in the country".
Back in the day Johnnie Owens always started the introductions by say that MU was currently ranking #1 or whatever the ranking was that week. For the guys that have never heard, it has a great ring to it.
Gosh was that wonderful.
"Now for the Marquette Warriors. This week, ranked 5th in AP and 4th in UPI (now the Coaches pill)."
I'm more interested in hearing, "And, now, for the defending national champion Marquette Golden Eagles...."
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 15, 2023, 11:57:09 AM
Two banners: Maui Champs and #1.
I don't know why you guys are putting this in teal, since it should be a legitimate thing.
In fact, I sent the Athletic Department a request that they hang up a banner that says:
"Could be #1 if we win Maui."
I have yet to receive a response.